Germany votes to ban internal combustion engines in 14 years

[jas67]

Gasoline can be made synthetically (from coal or from natural gas). If the price of petrol rise above a certain level, is actually convenient.

I'm sure if the EPA, and equivalent across the world didn't want ICE (internal combustion engine) powered vehicles on road any more, they'd just legislate it so.   It will like happen someday.

I can't be the only one here who thought of this the second he read the OP:

Red Barchetta


 

Nope.    I did too.

[Kev m]

Rush: Red Barchetta

Uh buddy, you're 4 minutes late with that... granted, maybe I should have identified the link.

[ITSec]

While we're at it find a way to transmit electric power other than through wires. We haven't progressed much since Thomas Edison's days.


Dean

There's a big physics problem with any means other than wires for moving electrical power. Electrons confined to a helpful medium (wire) behave in good order and move efficiently from place to place. If sent without such a confinement, they spread equally in all directions in at least three dimensions (quantum mechanics says four or five at least) and dissipate incredibly quickly due to the inverse-square law (if projected in a specific direction) or even inverse-cube (in the case of a radio-like broadcast of energy).

Broadcast power was a popular concept in science fiction in the 20s, 30s and 40s, especially because radio and television gave the idea of moving energy through the air. Some Buck Rogers dreams came true, but not this one...

[ITSec]

I can't be the only one here who thought of this the second he read the OP:

Red Barchetta


 

Best Rush song ever (and that's a hard thing to manage!).

[Tom]

But it doesn't have to be mobile, so can be powered by a huge power cable tether.

Big internal diesel generators for electricity??? like the electric drive beeeg dump trucks.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVjss1_9XYkkAHTcnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTEyM3J2dWgyBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjI1ODBfMQRzZWMDc2M-?p=Electric+Drive+Dump+Truck&fr=yhs-mozilla-003&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-003

[Testarossa]

Something I wrote a long time ago, in a galaxy far away.  When diesel prices go up again (and they will someday), diesel-electric hybrid and overhead wires will look practical.
https://solartoday.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/trucking-plans-for-a-railroaded-future/#more-3

[Triple Jim]

Might have to build a still to make methanol, and re-jet the carbs to run on it.

Ethanol is a lot easier to make, and safer to handle. 

[rocker59]

Big internal diesel generators for electricity??? like the electric drive beeeg dump trucks.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVjss1_9XYkkAHTcnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTEyM3J2dWgyBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjI1ODBfMQRzZWMDc2M-?p=Electric+Drive+Dump+Truck&fr=yhs-mozilla-003&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-003

Big Muskie was pictured by Wayne.

"Big Muskie was powered by electricity supplied at 13,800 volts via a trailing cable, which had its own transporter/coiling units to move it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Muskie

[Tom]

Would make sense since it uses a lot of electricity and pretty much stays stationary.

[rocker59]

Would make sense since it uses a lot of electricity and pretty much stays stationary.

It was scrapped in place when they closed the strip mine it was working.

Too expensive to disassemble and transport.  And, too expensive to operate.

It could "walk" at 0.1 mph, when it needed to relocate within the mine!

 

[Penderic]

Hope they love horses. 

[pikipiki]

Concerning haulage, I dont think the future is rail.
In one possible future:
Future trucks will be on the road. They wont have drivers and will form road trains. So they kind of drive them selves. For cost reasons they travel pretty slowly (30-40mph) but will they be all electric and will they lack a human operator? unlikely. in built up areas electric power would be feasible but for longer distance no. For logicstics, security and maintenance you would need a human with a set of trucks. The operator could quite possibly even likely travel with a small scooter/ motorbike so he could travel to meet up with trucks for shift hand over or when trucks enter/ leave his area.

[rocker59]

Concerning haulage, I dont think the future is rail.
In one possible future:
Future trucks will be on the road. They wont have drivers and will form road trains. So they kind of drive them selves. For cost reasons they travel pretty slowly (30-40mph) but will they be all electric and will they lack a human operator? unlikely. in built up areas electric power would be feasible but for longer distance no. For logicstics, security and maintenance you would need a human with a set of trucks. The operator could quite possibly even likely travel with a small scooter/ motorbike so he could travel to meet up with trucks for shift hand over or when trucks enter/ leave his area.

From the perspective of someone who is involved in transportation for a major USA corporation, I don't understand your post.

Rail is most definitely the future.  Railroads are working to expand double-stack intermodal capacity in The USA.  Everything that can go on rail currently goes on rail.  That's usually anything moving more than 500 miles, and/or arriving/departing metros with intermodal hubs.

Perishables and time-sensitive freight is all that is OTR on long-haul runs.  I'm looking at 86 loads shipping today and half of them are going intermodal.  Of the 44 OTR shipments, 26 are short-haul under 500-miles.  The remainder of the OTR shipments are time-sensitive and must go OTR.  The OTR shipments are going to 12 destinations from 3 origins.

Unmanned road trains are a pipe dream.

As you mentioned, security is an issue.  Theft is a big problem with current OTR operations.  Unmanned would be a nightmare.

And, there is the safety issue, or issues.  Slow moving "road trains" on crowded interstate highways which have 60mph to 80mph speed limits?  That would do wonders for everyone's safety!  Then you have the real possibility of breakdowns to deal with, and no one there to handle the situation.

Popular Science!  LOL!

[Triple Jim]

Big Muskie was pictured by Wayne.

"Big Muskie was powered by electricity supplied at 13,800 volts via a trailing cable, which had its own transporter/coiling units to move it."

I saw it up close in the mine it was working in when I was a kid.  My mother's family lived near those strip mines.  The cable was three strands of rubber jacketed copper wire, a couple inches in diameter each, and twisted together.  My uncle, a muscular brick layer, told me to get a photo of  him picking it up, but when he tried, it wouldn't budge.   I have a color slide of it somewhere in the archives, showing him not picking up the cable.

If I had the slightest inkling it carried 13.8 kv, I wouldn't have gotten anywhere near it, but I was only 11 and assumed it was something like 240 vac.

[Tom H]

Road trains are used, or were used in Australia. A tractor and X number of trailers. If I remember they were only used in the remote areas.

Any Aussies ever see one in person?

Tom

[RANDM]

Common Outback, too big for settled areas where B-doubles
Play. I'm not a trucker, don't know the economics of truckdom
But it would be hard to imagine trucks being better long distance.
Driverless trucks : Bushrangers Delight.

[Cool Runnings]

Whose bogus moron  Quoting unsubstantiated non-peer reviewed internet articles does not make this unworkable piece of trickery a viable source of energy . Like the carburetor that produced fuel mileage figures of 100 MPG it breaks the laws of physics , and since I am pretty sure it will take someone much smarter than this Rossi guy to even "bend" those laws, yes , bogus still applies .

 Dusty

 

Peer Review - 3rd Party Verification for Andrea Rossi E-Cat released by Cornell University.

Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device

An experimental investigation of possible anomalous heat production in a special type of reactor tube named E-Cat HT is carried out. The reactor tube is charged with a small amount of hydrogen loaded nickel powder plus some additives. The reaction is primarily initiated by heat from resistor coils inside the reactor tube. Measurement of the produced heat was performed with high-resolution thermal imaging cameras, recording data every second from the hot reactor tube. The measurements of electrical power input were performed with a large bandwidth three-phase power analyzer. Data were collected in two experimental runs lasting 96 and 116 hours, respectively. An anomalous heat production was indicated in both experiments. The 116-hour experiment also included a calibration of the experimental set-up without the active charge present in the E-Cat HT. In this case, no extra heat was generated beyond the expected heat from the electric input. Computed volumetric and gravimetric energy densities were found to be far above those of any known chemical source. Even by the most conservative assumptions as to the errors in the measurements, the result is still one order of magnitude greater than conventional energy sources.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913v3

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1305/1305.3913.pdf

[Cool Runnings]

Nickel – the ultimate substitute of Coal, Oil and Uranium

1. Introduction
With reference to the current [1-6] and old [7] review
reports, one can understand the current ‘golden status’ and
old ‘Pathetic status’ of Cold fusion or Low energy nuclear
interactions (LENR). Since 1989 scientists proposed several
interesting proposals for understanding the observed excess
heat generation with various experimental setups [8-18].
Many researchers and scientists around the world have
reported successful experiments at a number of international
conferences, and selected articles are collected in an on-line
data base. The results, however, have not been taken
seriously by main stream science, even after full support by
two Nobel laureates, Julian Schwinger and Brian Josephson.
Julian Schwinger (1918-1994), a Nobel prize winner in
Physics, 1965, who also worked with Oppenheimer, was a
strong advocate of cold fusion [19]. Brian Josephson, a
Nobel prize winner in Physics, 1973, is a discoverer of the
Josephon effect in the field of superconductivity. He is
presently a strong supporter of cold fusion [20].

These new interactions are exclusively based on ‘excess
heat generation’ and are absolutely free from the currently
believed alpha, beta and gamma radiations. Experts believe
that, LENR could use 1% of the Nickel mined to produce
current world energy at a price four times cheaper than coal.
Joseph Zawodny, a senior research scientist with NASA ’s
Langley Research Center says: “It has the demonstrated
ability to produce excess amounts of energy , cleanly ,
without hazardous ionizing radiation, without producing
nasty waste”. It is not a surprise to say that, very soon LENR
will dominate all the current leading research areas of
physics in the near future.

Andrea Rossi says: “one gram of Nickel is equivalent to
5,00,000 liters of oil”. As there is no emission of the alpha,
beta and gamma radiation, as there is no emission of other
gasses like SO2,CO2 etc, as Nickel abundance is high in the
earth core and as the technical risk of power generation is
less, E-CAT seems to be the best and ultimate green power
generator in coming future. Very interesting information is
that Mr and Mrs Bill Gates are planning to fund Italy’s
ENEA for LENR/Cold fusion technology. In this paper
authors made an attempt to understand the working
mechanism of heat generation in the E-CAT.



http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Nickel%20-%20The%20ultimate%20substitute%20of%20coal,%20oil%20and%20uranium.pdf

[atavar]

Would you like a like to where you can buy plans for a $49 Tesla generator too?  lol

[Cool Runnings]

Would you like a like to where you can buy plans for a $49 Tesla generator too?  lol

Suck, squeeze, bang, blow 




Drag Tractor vs Steam Engine -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLQhvruimfs

[oldbike54]

 Where in hell are you finding this fake BS ?????

 Dusty

[Cool Runnings]

Where in hell are you finding this fake BS ?????

 Dusty

LENR Testing at NASA Langley -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtHR1NCzeKU

[Cool Runnings]

Here's a video of a Cold Fusion/ LENR device called the NANOR at M.I.T. It is a small, low temperature, classroom research model invented by Mitchell Swartz and has been monitored at the classroom of Professor Peter Hagelstein at M.I.T. for five months, (video was made May 2012) producing 10 - 14 times more energy than it takes to run it.


Cold Fusion/ LENR device at M.I.T. -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAA2ssOV5z4

[atavar]

Yep, it's on the internet so its gots to be true!!!

[oldbike54]

Yep, it's on the internet so its gots to be true!!!

 Yep , this is a case of one fake video being used to support another fake video . Good Grief , please make it stop .

 Dusty

[atavar]

goodness knows students and academia have never been know to post false or misleading information for their own entertainment..

[ITSec]

Where in hell are you finding this fake BS ?????

 Dusty

This is why I carefully avoided the term 'cold fusion' in my earlier post! 

[Penderic]

Its true! New self-regenerating energy system to eliminate all pollution!

The goverment is investing in new car designs to use this fabulous breakthrough .....

Never have to refuel ever again! Amazing!


 

[jas67]

Yep, it's on the internet so its gots to be true!!!

[oldbike54]

 The internet just makes it easier to spread nonsense , at least pre net it took some effort 

 Dusty