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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #60 on: October 22, 2016, 08:23:08 AM »
Good deal. I'm glad it turned out to be something simple.

Now for the big question: Did you use submersible fuel line as was suggested in previous replies? I cannot stress how important that is! If not, then I would obtain the proper line and dig in again sooner than later. The wrong line will become soft and slip off.

(I only ask because 4 bucks seems a bit low for submersible fuel injection line.) Don't use the clamps with the slots cut all the way around either.

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #61 on: October 22, 2016, 09:40:02 AM »
Congratulations!

So, may I safely assume that you won't be accepting my bid of $102.50 now?

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #62 on: October 22, 2016, 10:09:13 AM »
Logic trap indeed. Just because you can hear the fuel pump run, does not mean it is building pressure in the rail.

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2016, 11:35:36 AM »
The guy at NAPA said it would be immersible. However, I have a short section of the fuel lie, soaking in a bottle of gas, and I should be able to tell if its softening over time. I think I will go ahead and order a new line and filter from Harper's anyway.

Again, thanks to all!

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #64 on: October 22, 2016, 11:52:58 AM »
If you have some of the same line look for SAE 30R10 printed on the hose.
This is the specification for submersible fuel line. If it is 30R9 or 30R7 it is the wrong hose and will not work for long.
The clamps are important too. Do not use the regular slotted clamps. Use the kind I linked to in my above post or the crimp on type.

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #65 on: October 22, 2016, 11:58:46 AM »
Dang! And I was ready to up the ante to $200 and scare the other bidders off.. :smiley: :boozing:
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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #66 on: October 22, 2016, 05:17:29 PM »
Dang! And I was ready to up the ante to $200 and scare the other bidders off.. :smiley: :boozing:

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2016, 05:42:39 AM »
The guy at NAPA said it would be immersible. However, I have a short section of the fuel lie, soaking in a bottle of gas, and I should be able to tell if its softening over time. I think I will go ahead and order a new line and filter from Harper's anyway.

Again, thanks to all!

If it is, it is printed on the exterior of the hose. There is, 1: plain old fuel line, 2: fuel injection line, and 3: submersible fuel injection line. Options 1 and 2 will fail in this application.

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2016, 08:28:07 AM »
I would like to thank everyone that helped me with my little problem of Sophia when she wouldn't start. The problem was fixed 2 days after I got her back from the shop.

The shop guys fell into what Robert Pirsig in Zen and the Art Maintenance called a logic trap. They seemed to have assumed that the fuel injection system was fucked up, when in actual fact, there was a hole in the fuel line leading from the fuel pump to the fuel filter.

I am now back on the road after spending $4.69 at NAPA. Again kudo's to you all!!!
Dod someone mention that earlier ??

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2016, 09:43:12 AM »
I will try to answer all questoons if I can rember them.

While cranking, with the side stand up, in first gear, with the clutch engaged and the gas cap open, I hear the fuel pump start, but I didn't notice any swirling. This was 2 months ago, and thinking back on it, it did seem that I did seem that I saw  little movement. Of course, the cigarrete lighter I was using did't put out much light, so I can't say if this is really true. The guys at the shop said they could get gas to go thru, although they are pretty tired of the whole problem, and they want Sophia out of their shop, so maybe this aint so.

There is an idiot light on the display that says the side stand is down, bright yellow it is, but still not real visible in broad daylight. That's why it took me til that night to notice that, even with the side stand up, the idiot light still said it was down. Thus, the side stand switch replacement I did.

I haven't checked fuses or relays yet, its been in the shop ever since this happened. Likewise on any sensor checks, no checkee. Also likewise on the internal fuel line and filter, no checkee.

Sorry did I read this right? You were using a cigarette lighter to look in the tank?
Mate, I'm not sure anyone can help you if that's the case. I guess you're just lucky.
Probably best to stay off the road as well. It's safer for everyone else. :grin:

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2016, 11:31:40 AM »
I think he's winding us up.

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #71 on: October 23, 2016, 11:45:20 AM »
BTW, would'a saved a lot of BS (including mine) if he'd listened to Roper at response# 1...

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #72 on: October 23, 2016, 05:39:12 PM »
I was just goofin' with you guys, it was outside in afternoon sunlight and I was using a flashlight. Thanks for your concern, my first choice was a cigarette lighter!


Sorry did I read this right? You were using a cigarette lighter to look in the tank?
Mate, I'm not sure anyone can help you if that's the case. I guess you're just lucky.
Probably best to stay off the road as well. It's safer for everyone else. :grin:

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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #73 on: October 23, 2016, 05:47:38 PM »
Totally oft topic...


Totally! :rolleyes:
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Re: This may be the final straw.. dead Griso
« Reply #75 on: October 23, 2016, 06:27:59 PM »
I was just goofin' with you guys, it was outside in afternoon sunlight and I was using a flashlight. Thanks for your concern, my first choice was a cigarette lighter!
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