V7 III

[kirkemon]

Unfortunately, none of these bikes look right to me visually nor as pretty as the current V7 lineup.

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and I agree with Rich that the side cover don't look as good to me as the current V7II

[adventurelounger]

I have a '16 Stornello. Thanks, Moto Guzzi, for creating another level of unnecessary want/lust for that 50th Anniversary chrome-and-leather beauty. Too much candy for the children.

[kenvil1]

I really like all the work that went into this new V7. The engine block, with a redesigned sump and improved oil management, is sturdier, the top-end is more modern and efficient, and the clutch and gearbox have been revised. Add to this the changes to the steering geometry and the new, re-angled rear shocks and the V7 III seems to be nicely updated without having lost its unique nature. The styling is subjective.

[pete roper]

Looking at the pictures does it appear, (I have to admit I haven't paid close attention.) that the new V7III seems to use the 'Old' style swingers and presumably shaft and bevel box of the earlier, Pre V9, bikes? If so why in the name of all that's holy would they invest in a complete new final drive for just those two abominations?

Pete

[JeffOlson]

^ I'm guessing Moto Guzzi have other V9 variants waiting in the wings...

[Air-Cooled]

No Scrambler?  This can't be

[Kev m]

No Scrambler?  This can't be

That's cause it's a V9 and this thread is about the V7 III

Check out the EICMA thread:

DogW

[ohiorider]

I really like all the work that went into this new V7. The engine block, with a redesigned sump and improved oil management, is sturdier, the top-end is more modern and efficient, and the clutch and gearbox have been revised. Add to this the changes to the steering geometry and the new, re-angled rear shocks and the V7 III seems to be nicely updated without having lost its unique nature. The styling is subjective.

Do you know if MG used the new 2 universal drive shaft and improved final drive unit from the V9 on the V7 III?

Bob

[kenvil1]

Do you know if MG used the new 2 universal drive shaft and improved final drive unit from the V9 on the V7 III?

I haven't come across any mention of a revised final drive, and I have limited knowledge of this bike, so I wouldn't know just from looking at the pictures.

[Kev m]

Do you know if MG used the new 2 universal drive shaft and improved final drive unit from the V9 on the V7 III?

Bob

I believe Pete mentioned they did not in a post (maybe in a different thread).

[kenvil1]

The top shock mounts are slightly farther aft on the V7III, which may account for the elongated redesign of the side covers, and the reservoir for the rear brake is now integrated with the foot controls. I still prefer the look of the older side covers, but newer designs tend to grow on me to the point where the older styles begin to have a dated look. I also find that the cylinders and the exhaust headers now appear oversized, but one moto-journo mentioned how it gave the impression of an overall sturdier package from the cockpit.

[Dogwalker]

After looking at the photos of the 2017 V7 III, I agree that it a fine looking retro machine ... but I was hoping for at least one updated CARC sport model from the engineering designers at Moto Guzzi. 

As already anticipated, the only uncertainty at this EICMA was if they would have shown the new Stelvio, but only to start to sell it much later in 2017, or brought only the V7III and the upgrades of the V9, and show the new Stelvio directly at EICMA 2017.
Moto Guzzi's policy in the last years had been that of not showing something that was not ready to be put in production. The reneval of their best selling model was something important, and they didn't want something, that would not have been by the dealers in spring 2017 anyway, to overshadow it.

[trippah]

Can someone id the third bike in - in the third photo.  TIA   

[rocker59]

Can someone id the third bike in - in the third photo.  TIA

V7 Special with Moto Guzzi Garage accessories.

[Cam3512]

The V9 scrambler is a better fit for the funky shaped tank.  I like it better than the scramblerized V7.

Headers look beefier on the III because they're dual walled.

[Air-Cooled]

Definitely a bolder Scrambler design, although those of us like myself who own a V7II Scrambler will still love our bikes that can accommodate a passenger and use the classic tank style. ha!

[trippah]

Of course, thank you Michael.  Now if I can manage to save up some $ for a down payment.

[rocker59]

That V9 Scrambler custom would be cool with a 21-inch front wheel...

[pikipiki]

fresh from Eimca, not my vid so sorry about the music but otherwise enjoy....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cPNZdvDSbts

[bad Chad]

That V9 Scrambler custom would be cool with a 21-inch front wheel...

So the v9 Scrambler is "show" special, and not a production bike?   I agree, its looks way cool, and I think it would sell based on how bad ass it looks alone!

[Caffeineo]

I still like the original better. Fully functional front fender. The red/chrome tank is just beautiful.  Maybe that is why I like the red Eldorado 1400......

[pikipiki]

I still like the original better. Fully functional front fender. The red/chrome tank is just beautiful.  Maybe that is why I like the red Eldorado 1400......

strangely if you look at the new v7 iii the special has a fully functioning front fender but no fork gators. the stone and racer have short fender but have gators?

[JProdun]

I want that seat off of a chrome bike!

Wonder if they'll be available to order and fi older models...

Otherwise, the blue is screaming my name. Black Stone is too much IMO.

I have a black '14 Stone and thought about powder coating headers and mufflers, but ruled against it... Gotta have some type of color balance.

[rocker59]

I want that seat off of a chrome bike!

Wonder if they'll be available to order and fit older models...
 

We may have to wait and see.  If the seat height specs are true, then they've altered the top rails of the frame to lower the seat.  The new V7 seats may not fit the older V7s.

Yeah.  That blue V7 Special looks great!

[Tom]

V9 Scrambler......"What'da you mean I can't do a wheelie???"  Order up some u-joints.

[JeffOlson]

I want that chrome-tanked, leather-saddled anniversary edition. Dang it! Too many toys already. Must resist...

[Kev m]

strangely if you look at the new v7 iii the special has a fully functioning front fender but no fork gators. the stone and racer have short fender but have gators?

I don't get the FULLY FUNCTIONING comment.

What do you think the current smallblock front fenders aren't going to do?

[DanD]

Fenders that come down further on the front wheel leave the motor cleaner and rider drier in the rain. I think that's what is being hinted at. I myself like fuller front fenders.

A good example is the Low Rider and Sportster front fenders. The older large front fenders with the chrome braces did a lot more in the way of keeping mud and water from the motor and rider. The newer style "short" fenders leave much to be desired in that regard. Hence the fully functioning comment.

[Kev m]

Fenders that come down further on the front wheel leave the motor cleaner and rider drier in the rain. I think that's what is being hinted at. I myself like fuller front fenders.

A good example is the Low Rider and Sportster front fenders. The older large front fenders with the chrome braces did a lot more in the way of keeping mud and water from the motor and rider. The newer style "short" fenders leave much to be desired in that regard. Hence the fully functioning comment.

I figured that is what is being put forth, and I accept that maybe the front of the motor remains marginally cleaner (even if I'm skeptical how significant that is), but the rider?

I can't say I ever really perceived a difference between my say RK or stock Jackal and my V7 or customized Jackal with short front fender.

I could obviously be wrong as I never particularly looked to see if there was a difference, but I seem to remember my legs getting a little wet and a little road grime on them from the full fender bikes as well.

I guess I just don't see that as significant.

[JeffOlson]

I think full fenders do make a difference in wet locations. I put them on my bicycles for that reason.

Before my Norge, I had a Triumph Thruxton. It had a small front fender, and I installed a FEK (fender elimination kit) at the rear. Man, it looked good! But riding it in the rain was a very messy business, because it is not just rain that hits you and your bike, it is all the crap (sometimes literally, as in horse or cow manure) that people dump or lose on the road as they tow their trailers...

I am about to install mud flaps on my luxo-barge sled for the same reason, even though they may look rather out of place.

I prefer the clean look of small fenders (or no fenders), but the functionality of full fenders is nice in the sloppy conditions we often have in the Pacific Northwest, especially outside the cities and in farm country.