Bike Vapor

[Penderic]

Try taking two of these. Might help some of ya!


 

[Pisano]

I wish anyone the best when trying to quit.  So good luck!  Your friends and family will be better off for it.  Speaking from experience.

[SaskMick]

Might be worth me thinking about to help get over that edge.
How much does one of reasonable quality cost? And just what
Do you use with it?
Enquiring  minds and all that ..........

Maurie.

$100 should get you a decent vaping mod.   I like Vapers Choice vanilla custard.    You will not need a lot of nicotine to replicate a normal cigarette.. 09 or 06 will be about the same. Starting out is the hardest part, get different flavours and strengths to try.
   
Vaping is like giving up smoking without giving up anything. :)

[SaskMick]

Its exactly like smoking where you are routinely administering a foreign substance to your body to form or continue a habit and/or addictive behavior.

Vaping is asinine at best.

Another expert who obviously never tried it       And you even post on a motorcycle forum !

[SpadapatinaII]

It's called "harm reduction". Is it harmless? No Way. Is it less harmful than tobacco smoke? Yes, absolutely. I use the juice (flavorless) and have no real strong desire to go back to cigs. Yes it is substance addiction, which is an EASY trap to fall into and people have very differing abilities to kick it. Cigarettes are well documented as the hardest thing for some people (some of us) to quit. One of the most wrenching things I read was a US POW in a Japanese WWII camp who watched more than a few comrades die because they traded their skimpy rations and other things for the slightest hint of tobacco to smoke. It's at best, HARD to quit those devil sticks, and some people have a MUCH harder (or impossible) time than others. It's not moral failure, it's an all too human physical propensity to addiction. I was on painkillers for a few months (some twenty years back) but two weeks into them, was waking up in the middle of the night from withdrawel, not pain. It's that easy. I'm all for the vapes for cig smokers, but have solid ideas on how they should be sold, which is another topic.

[SaskMick]

It's called "harm reduction". Is it harmless? No Way. Is it less harmful than tobacco smoke? Yes, absolutely. I use the juice (flavorless) and have no real strong desire to go back to cigs. Yes it is substance addiction, which is an EASY trap to fall into and people have very differing abilities to kick it. Cigarettes are well documented as the hardest thing for some people (some of us) to quit. One of the most wrenching things I read was a US POW in a Japanese WWII camp who watched more than a few comrades die because they traded their skimpy rations and other things for the slightest hint of tobacco to smoke. It's at best, HARD to quit those devil sticks, and some people have a MUCH harder (or impossible) time than others. It's not moral failure, it's an all too human physical propensity to addiction. I was on painkillers for a few months (some twenty years back) but two weeks into them, was waking up in the middle of the night from withdrawel, not pain. It's that easy. I'm all for the vapes for cig smokers, but have solid ideas on how they should be sold, which is another topic.

Do you have nicotine in you juice ?

[kenvil1]

For motorcycle content I can now get a nicotine fix at 80mph with gloves on.  ;)

That reminds me of a device called a "No-smoke Toker" which made it possible to smoke (or toke) while riding a motorcycle. Me and some fellow motorcycle buddies from high-school once tried one during a ride to a free outdoor concert in the Gatineau Hills. We even passed it from bike to bike. What a hoot! Those were carefree days.

[Turin]

Had my last cig July 2013 and have been vaping since. I use a v-pen and buy velvet cloud juice. It's 100% organic vegetable glycerin.

I'm a bit wary about most of the juice that has propylene glycol.

After 2 years I was down to 0.0% nicotine, and now I don't vape all that much either.

[quota2000]

I've been smoking a pack a day for almost 40 years.  It is NASTY, EXPENSIVE and STUPID.  I do not hack or cough.  I have quit cold-turkey for over a year and I have also tried to vape.  After a couple of months of vaping, I started to hack and have lung issues, so I went back to smoking, just don't trust the stuff and not enough info out there to say it is safe.

I am psyching myself up to quit cold turkey before I turn 50.  I am starting to get winded easily and I have always known how stupid it is, maybe it's time that I grow up!!

Regards,

Jeff

[Fuzzy]

What people ingest is their own business. What concerns me more is 2nd hand smoke contamination. There are varying levels of harmful components released upon en exhale, but way fewer than cigarettes, cigars, or pipes. Also, when the vape is dangling from your hand, it isn't smoking. So there are certain positives. I'll enjoy a cigar or pipe occasionally, but, as least as far as tobacco, I can quit anytime and do so often, even though I have had my addicted periods in the past to other substances (which shall remain nameless).

[SaskMick]

just don't trust the stuff and not enough info out there to say it is safe.

What info do you have that says riding motorcycles is safe ?.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/health/e-cigarettes-vaping-quitting-smoking-royal-college-of-physicians.html?_r=0

[rocker59]

Fact is, putting anything in your lungs other than air will not be good, long term.

Tobacco smoke
Coal dust
Regular old dirty dust
Campfire smoke
And yes, vapors from e-cigs.

[quota2000]

What info do you have that says riding motorcycles is safe?

I don't remember saying motorcycles were safe.

Regards,

Jeff

[oldbike54]

 Just curious , anyone here familiar with the term reformed whore ?

 Dusty

[unclepete]

I remember an ad that said something like " 8 out of 10 doctors who smoke , smoke ........ brand of cigarettes " . We knew it wasn't good for us , but didn't know how bad .
My friend Paul didn't quit til they opened him up for heart surgery . He can't walk to the bathroom without running out of breath .
He says that smoking killed him , he's just not dead yet . Didn't give it much thought when we were young .
After smoking for 25 years it took me about 12 years to quit for good . What finally did it for me was that it was revealed that a tobacco company had been adding nicotine to the tobacco in their cigarettes ; to keep smokers addicted . That made it easier for me .
Whatever works , more power to you . Seems we're forced to breathe plenty of stuff floating around in the air .   

[SaskMick]

When I gave up tobacco I used a  gift  that each of us have but few choose to use...Will Power!  No need to for anything else and no need to start another stupid habit like vaping that mimics smoking so you never truly break the habit. You keep letting that crutch prop your up and suck on that electric dick as much as you like but please don't make it out to be a magical experience or that anything positive can come from it.

Mind power is something I am well familiar with, it is my speciality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gluykZOYboo


     I gave up nicotine long ago , but I like vaping and intend to continue despite objections from the nanny brigade :)

[SaskMick]

I don't remember saying motorcycles were safe.

Regards,

Jeff

If they are not safe then why do you ride ?

[rocker59]

Just curious , anyone here familiar with the term reformed whore ?

 Dusty

Yeah.  But, I didn't believe her...

[KiwiKev]

I've been smoking a pack a day for almost 40 years.  It is NASTY, EXPENSIVE and STUPID.  I do not hack or cough.  I have quit cold-turkey for over a year and I have also tried to vape.  After a couple of months of vaping, I started to hack and have lung issues, so I went back to smoking, just don't trust the stuff and not enough info out there to say it is safe.

I am psyching myself up to quit cold turkey before I turn 50.  I am starting to get winded easily and I have always known how stupid it is, maybe it's time that I grow up!!

Regards,

Jeff

Keep up trying Jeff, it can be done and you will feel much better once it gets out of your system .

My wife used to nag me to stop which helped me kick the habit.

I spent a year in the Antarctic and the NZ government gave us free cigarettes and cheap booze down there. That was back In the seventies & Times have changed ..hardly anyone smokes here now.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Might be worth me thinking about to help get over that edge.
How much does one of reasonable quality cost? And just what
Do you use with it?
Enquiring  minds and all that ..........

Maurie.

I use a 'Joy Etech io' and the pen costs under $40 bucks (amazon)...  Like sunglasses or lighters, I don't believe in getting an expensive one because it's probably going to get dropped/broken/lost.  My GF got me into it and she has had some spendy 'mods' and vape setups.... she likes mine so much better she occasionally puts hers down and asks to vape mine.

At my local vape shop a USA made 30ml bottle of 12mg nicotine strength costs about $22 and lasts me a week... Once I settled on my preferred flavor, I order 120ml direct from the company for $50 w/free shipping.

Only other expense are coils, and I buy 5 for about $25 which last me 1.5-2mos (tho others with the same vape have reported using the same coild for months<albiet with poor result>)

[RANDM]

Okay,
Thanks for that, More thinking needed.
May patch it again and use this as a extra if I start slipping.

Maurie.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

I chewed a pack+ per day of Redman Golden Blend for the last 20 years... quit several times for periods of 3 days to up to 11mos but never full kicked it; and even when I quit for almost a year~ I craved it every day.

I tried the gum, cold turkey, and neither worked for me.

My girlfriend is only 25 but she smoked from age 14 til she was 23 when she switched to vaping.

Sure it's not as safe as *not vaping* but I grew up and lived my while life with smokers and now 2+ years with a vaper...  I've seen the two side by side. There is no coughing, hacking, morning phlegm, lingering stank, shortness of breath, wheezing, yellow fingers, overflowing ashtrays, etc..

I like my ex-smoker GF vaping instead because she can choose one puff or 20, no committing to a whole or half cigarette. It's a lot cheaper, u can sneak a smoke inside at work or in the bathroom and it doesn't stink.

Also I have great teeth from natural genetics and vaping isn't yellowing my teeth or making my gums recede the way chaw was.

I still smoke my ganga almost daily but I feel better vaping than I did chewing tobacco.

[SaskMick]

Keep up trying Jeff, it can be done and you will feel much better once it gets out of your system .

My wife used to nag me to stop which helped me kick the habit.

I spent a year in the Antarctic and the NZ government gave us free cigarettes and cheap booze down there. That was back In the seventies & Times have changed ..hardly anyone smokes here now.

Please don't tell anyone committed to giving up smoking to keep up trying.  Try is a negative word that implies failure.

[Lannis]

Please don't tell anyone committed to giving up smoking to keep up trying.  Try is a negative word that implies failure.

It is that.

Aside from Yoda's "DO! or do not.   There is no try!"

I like the football coach's response when his offensive center was getting run over on every play.   "Jones!   Go in there and sub for Smith; he's getting killed out there!"  Jones jumps up and says "I'll try, coach!".   Coach says "Sit back down, son; I've already got someone trying ...."

Lannis

[SaskMick]

It is that.

Aside from Yoda's "DO! or do not.   There is no try!"

I like the football coach's response when his offensive center was getting run over on every play.   "Jones!   Go in there and sub for Smith; he's getting killed out there!"  Jones jumps up and says "I'll try, coach!".   Coach says "Sit back down, son; I've already got someone trying ...."

Lannis

It's known as Neuro Linguistic Programming, or NLP, it's used a lot in hypnosis.

[KiwiKev]

Please don't tell anyone committed to giving up smoking to keep up trying.  Try is a negative word that implies failure.

Sigh

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Buncha contrarian old assholes in here lol I love it

[quota2000]

If they are not safe then why do you ride ?

Because I like it.

I'm not sure what your beef is.  I related my experiences and opinions about vaping and smoking and all of a sudden you are portraying me as a safety Nazi.  Hope your day/life brightens up a bit!!

Regards,

Jeff

[SaskMick]

Because I like it.

I'm not sure what your beef is.  I related my experiences and opinions about vaping and smoking and all of a sudden you are portraying me as a safety Nazi.  Hope your day/life brightens up a bit!!

Regards,

Jeff

I don't know what you are moaning about Jeff, I only asked why you ride motorcycles FFS !
As it happens you are very much like me, you ride bikes because you like it, and I vape because I like it, neither are 100% safe.    ..... I am not suggesting that you are a safety Nazi, just a hypocrite 

[oldbike54]

 How in hell did a thread about vaping turn contentious  :shocked
Ease up fellas , thanks .

 Dusty