For all you stevio ntx owners

[AH Fan]

So here is a question for all you Stelvio NTX owners regarding tires and choice.
Has the K-60 sport tire tread design been changed over the last few years? I have seen adds for the tires and they call them the same but the photo sometimes shows a completely different tread pattern?
The one I'm looking for is Front and rear heavy tread pattern with large joined center block for highway running... I believe that was the original design ............ is that still available?
If not what would be a comparable tire to that one?          Anyone and all chime in please.

Ciao

[Green1]

Rear tire has had a major change,new one has a solid band around the center for improved ride on highway,video below is how they look now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYLrcUOkQBM

[leafman60]

Heidenau tires are dangerous at speed on wet pavement.  They are an aggressive tread pattern known for high mileage.  That tells you the rubber compound is hard.

I like a tire that is soft enough to yield only 5-6,000 miles on a rear. 

I've had the Heidenau (Deathnow) and other east-german tires, and, like other riders, have experienced them breaking traction especially on wet pavement.

If you are a careful or non-aggressive rider this issue may be moot. However, physics is physics and hard rubber normally doesn't grip as well as soft rubber on hard surfaces.

Off-road the Heidenau tires are great.

For Stelvio NTX on and off-road duty,  I have been very pleased with the Continental TKC 70 dual-sport tire and the Shinko 705 tire. The Shinko is definitely the best deal for the money.

Lots of posting on this topic here and on Adv Rider.

[AH Fan]

Thx all ............ any recommended mileage expectations of the Shinko 705 or tire pressures to run for any or all?

appreciated........ ......Ciao

[pyoungbl]

I got close to 6K miles on the rear with Shinko 705 @ 42psi (what Guzzi recommends).  The front tire seems to last forever but shows slight cupping.  I'm not doing any serious off road riding.  The 705s also performed well in rain.  For the price they are hard to beat.

Peter Y.

[MadMike]

Rode from New Jersey to Prudhoe Bay on a pair of Heidenau K60s. They performed great on the Alaskan Highway and the Dalton. These tires took some serious abuse but kept asking for more. On the interstate though they were brutal, especially at slightly elevated highway speeds. Fealt a lot of jackhammering on the front end. I'm running a pair of Avon Trailriders now. Great for Suburban duty. Would not hesitate switching back to the Heidenaus but only if the trip and or location warranted a off road tire with the ultimate resistance to flats.

[Porterhouse]

I guess "YMMV" would apply here...

Living in Seattle, I get to ride in the rainy wet much of the time.  I've not experienced any of the traction loss you describe while on my NTX running the Heidenau K60 Scouts.  For me, it's been a great tire.  Compared to the Pirelli Scorpions and Shinko 705's I've tried, the Heidenaus get the top marks for performance and longevity.  Shinkos win on price.

SD

Heidenau tires are dangerous at speed on wet pavement.  They are an aggressive tread pattern known for high mileage.  That tells you the rubber compound is hard.

I like a tire that is soft enough to yield only 5-6,000 miles on a rear. 

I've had the Heidenau (Deathnow) and other east-german tires, and, like other riders, have experienced them breaking traction especially on wet pavement.

If you are a careful or non-aggressive rider this issue may be moot. However, physics is physics and hard rubber normally doesn't grip as well as soft rubber on hard surfaces.

Off-road the Heidenau tires are great.

For Stelvio NTX on and off-road duty,  I have been very pleased with the Continental TKC 70 dual-sport tire and the Shinko 705 tire. The Shinko is definitely the best deal for the money.

Lots of posting on this topic here and on Adv Rider.

[WitchCityGuzzi]

I guess "YMMV" would apply here...

Living in Seattle, I get to ride in the rainy wet much of the time.  I've not experienced any of the traction loss you describe while on my NTX running the Heidenau K60 Scouts.  For me, it's been a great tire.  Compared to the Pirelli Scorpions and Shinko 705's I've tried, the Heidenaus get the top marks for performance and longevity.  Shinkos win on price.

SD

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[Xlratr]

I like the Heidenaus too. Fantastic mileage and I never had any nasty moments, even in the rain. Having said that, I really try to avoid riding in the rain, and when I do I'm really slow :-).


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[Mooney78865]

I too like the Heidenau's.  I have run them on multiple bikes of various manufactures and they perform very well.  That said, I run Shinko 804/805's on my Stelvio.  I consider myself a 70% on road, 30% off road rider, and have put over 11k miles on the Stelvio in a bit over 6 months.  That would put me at something around 3,300 miles off road. The Shinko's are very confidence inspiring on road even though they are a "aggressive" dual sport tire.  Mileage on the front I would put at about 8-9k miles (just now changing it out).  The rear somewhere around 5k I would suspect, but haven't ever really got there as I  changed out the rear just before the last Back Country Discover ride, and I didn't think it would make the additional 3200 miles of the trip.
So the real question is, what type of riding are you going to do?  The occasional fire road? If so pretty much anything, if used in moderation. Solid Back Country Discovery Route type riding? Get aggressive. Tires are way more inexpensive than body parts, you or the bike. Tires are subjective, long mileage, less aggressive tread and a harder compound. (less squirm=less friction=less heat= longer life) Looking at some " adventure" offerings out there, my Michelin PR's have a more aggressive tread pattern.....
And finally, an answer to your question. I do not believe Heidenau has changed the K60 tread pattern.  Some of the sellers sites show a different pattern due to the size or type of tire.  For example, the 21" tubeless has a different amount and placement of side blocks than the tube type 21".  The 140 rear has a more open center pattern than the 150....
The only thing you can say about tires, is that if you ride the bike, they will wear out.

[leafman60]

For an aggressive tread tire I would very much pick the Shinko 805 or the Conti TKC 80.

They will not last nearly as long as a Heidenau but that is exactly why I'd pick them.

Again-  aggressive tread + high mileage = hard rubber compound

hard rubber = less wet traction on hard surface

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