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1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« on: February 23, 2017, 07:18:54 PM »
Hi Folks
I am a rookie poster so please be patient. I will try to be concise.
I am trying to determine the correct assembly order of the rocker parts for my 93 SPIII carby.
Took the valve covers off to reset the valves while we have it out for some bottom end work.
The order the parts came out were (left cylinder, intake on right,from the top),
Brass shim, spring, brass shim, rocker arm, washer.
The shim at the top is almost completely warn thru from the spring end. Same on intake and exhaust.
I am looking at the SPIII spare parts catalog and the Strada 1000 work shop addition.
The parts catalog show the need for 4 washers (steel?), 8 shims(brass?) and the 4 springs.
The SPIII picture shows what I thinks is....washer, spring, shim (from the top, according to the part explosion numbers). No other shim.
The Strada picture shows washer?/shim? (not sure which), washer?/shim?, spring, rocker. No other washer/shim.
Searched Wildgoose and This Old Tractor and could not find any references.
Saw a picture that had....washer, spring, shim, rocker, shim.
Please help me!!
Thanks in advance.
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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2017, 07:57:47 PM »
 Bump . Yo Pete , Steve , Roy , where are you guys ?

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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2017, 08:04:30 PM »
washer, spring, shim, rocker, shim.  From the top going down. Intake & exhaust, left & right cyl . Only model I've different is the V700 and maybe an Ambo 750 and all 8V and SmallBlocks.

OR in diagram #2, #35, #36, rocker, #36 ,  top down. 
« Last Edit: February 23, 2017, 08:19:46 PM by guzzisteve »
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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2017, 08:22:38 PM »
Bump . Yo Pete , Steve , Roy , where are you guys ?

 Dusty
I was typing the answer w/you were calling. Trying to cover my ass for the nit pickers.
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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2017, 08:41:32 PM »
Steve,
Thanks.
That was our thought after seeing the damage to the shim from the spring.
Yup, Ambo, Eldo & 72 V7 different. Checked those manuals also.
Guess I'll be adding to my order at MG to replace the beat shims.
Thanks again!
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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2017, 09:06:56 PM »
I was typing the answer w/you were calling. Trying to cover my ass for the nit pickers.

 Pay them no mind Steve , we all know that YOU know  :bow:

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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2017, 09:45:40 PM »
Actually there's no them, it's all in my mind-----

Now I can't stop thinking about the gold SP3 that I used to own. 40K fun miles.
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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2017, 09:52:22 PM »
Actually there's no them, it's all in my mind-----

Now I can't stop thinking about the gold SP3 that I used to own. 40K fun miles.

 Hey bud , I've spent my entire life living in a separate reality  :laugh: The real thing is simply not much fun  :shocked:

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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2017, 12:26:43 AM »
Just FYI:

Ambo and Eldo is brass shim, spring, rocker. This is looking at the cyl. head while mounted from top (tank) to bottom (spark plug) to be clear. Never understood why the rocker was not brass shimmed away from the rocker mount??

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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2017, 05:40:59 AM »
Actually there's no them, it's all in my mind-----

Now I can't stop thinking about the gold SP3 that I used to own. 40K fun miles.

I have to say......I love it.
I am 6'2" with 34" inseam.
PO had shaved the seat back and made the passenger seat even worse but I fit fine.
 I put on bar risers that also moved them back so the ride position with the shaved seat seems to be the same as original. The only difference seams to be quicker? steering at slow speed.
Knees do rest on the inside of the faring but not uncomfortably. I am going to add rubber pads there.
Being a geezer...... early in the day of a road trip, I can do 300mi( a full tank of gas). As the day goes on I need to do less between breaks.
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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2017, 08:54:45 AM »
FWIW, Ace Mallot sez he puts a radial bearing in there. Stops all that back and forth stuff, and adds at least 100 horsepower.  :smiley: The Kid did that on his Spot. No, I don't have the bearing number, but it's cheap. (Guzzi content)
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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2017, 10:24:35 AM »
FWIW, Ace Mallot sez he puts a radial bearing in there. Stops all that back and forth stuff, and adds at least 100 horsepower.  :smiley: The Kid did that on his Spot. No, I don't have the bearing number, but it's cheap. (Guzzi content)

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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2017, 03:13:34 PM »
FWIW, Ace Mallot sez he puts a radial bearing in there. Stops all that back and forth stuff, and adds at least 100 horsepower.  :smiley: The Kid did that on his Spot. No, I don't have the bearing number, but it's cheap. (Guzzi content)

C'mon Chuck you don't just drop that comment and walk away, share the love, we want details please! :popcorn: :gotpics:

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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2017, 03:48:36 PM »
I've posted this before, I think these will work?

Bearing:
https://www.mcmaster.com/#5909K13

Washers:
https://www.mcmaster.com/#5909K73
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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2017, 09:11:48 AM »
I've posted this before, I think these will work?

Bearing:
https://www.mcmaster.com/#5909K13

Washers:
https://www.mcmaster.com/#5909K73

Thank you!!
I'll pass this along.
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Re: 1993 SPIII Valve rocker arm washer shim spring assembly order
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2017, 11:03:33 AM »
C'mon Chuck you don't just drop that comment and walk away, share the love, we want details please! :popcorn: :gotpics:

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I don't what to hijack this but just curious about your 90 SPIII and this thread.....
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