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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2017, 06:24:42 PM »
You will have loosened off the adjuster right off to get the new lever on, then re-set it. I leave the rubber sheath folded back until I'm happy with the adjustment. It's a bit of a pain, even with a touch of rubber grease. I also re-route the cable so that the 90 degree metal curve is pointing down rather than forward. That seems to help.

Thanks for the curve trick, I'll give it a try.  The rubber sheath moves without too much trouble, but I'd already left it back knowing work was still to be done.  The adjuster bolt, on the other hand, is a pain in the A$$!  It doesn't want to turn either way, even with the lock nut completely loose.   

I just rode Anni around the neighborhood, and initially the clutch would engage at about 1.5" from the grip.  After half a dozen uses, it started to catch at .5" out, so adjusted back out to about an inch.  Hopefully it will stay there, as my fingers aren't too happy with all the adjusting.   

Hitting neutral is still 50/50, but I didn't have to go into 2nd to get 'er into gear, just had to try 1st again.  Some improvement, is better than none. :thumb:
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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2017, 06:34:53 PM »
Lubing the barrel ends of the cable help.
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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2017, 02:19:42 PM »

......The adjuster bolt, on the other hand, is a pain in the A$$!  It doesn't want to turn either way, even with the lock nut completely loose.

That happened to me not so long ago. It was a pain & felt wrong having to use pliers on it It shouldn't be that way. I couldn't fix it, so I tried a new cable, with a mere smear of grease on the threads. Magic. Finger adjustments again.

I'll keep the old cable, clean it up & try it again sometime. And put a tag on it, telling the story of the problem, so I will know the cable is suspect.
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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2017, 02:39:16 PM »
I made a tool to adjust the one on my SP in 1981.  A piece of steel 1/8" thick 3/4" wide and 10" long. I cut a slot on one end wide enough to fit slot on adj.. Early tool kits had a short one bout 3" for doing valve adj and I hated working on hot bike w/it.
On the opposite end of tool cut the slot on the side then you can adjust every 1/4 turn.
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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2017, 04:31:23 PM »
It was a pain & felt wrong having to use pliers on it.
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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2017, 09:05:19 PM »
That happened to me not so long ago. It was a pain & felt wrong having to use pliers on it It shouldn't be that way. I couldn't fix it, so I tried a new cable, with a mere smear of grease on the threads. Magic. Finger adjustments again.

I'll keep the old cable, clean it up & try it again sometime. And put a tag on it, telling the story of the problem, so I will know the cable is suspect.

And...I added a lock nut to try to keep things tight, but that's also a vain effort.

Just monitor it as always.
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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2017, 12:08:11 AM »
Havin the same issue on my 2013 V7.
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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2017, 10:11:00 AM »
And the cable free play will change as the operating temp changes. Sometimes the accumulated tolerances are such that a happy medium can be found where it works hot and cold, mostly though I have to adjust it after it heats up. That's on small blocks as well as big blocks. I've no experience with hydraulicy actuated clutches
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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2017, 02:25:17 AM »
And the cable free play will change as the operating temp changes. Sometimes the accumulated tolerances are such that a happy medium can be found where it works hot and cold, mostly though I have to adjust it after it heats up. That's on small blocks as well as big blocks. I've no experience with hydraulicy actuated clutches

When I replaced the clutch on my 1100 sport I spent a lot of time shagging around with the adjustment. Then I made a decision to set the lever clearance when the bike has warmed up. When it is cold it has almost no clearance. When warm it has about 5mm. I haven't touched it since.
I also have a V711 and I have adjusted the clutch once. The lever clutch lever on a lot of Guzzi's has to be pulled right into the bar to get clutch release. Short levers with a dog leg can be a problem.

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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2017, 10:13:53 AM »
When I replaced the clutch on my 1100 sport I spent a lot of time shagging around with the adjustment. Then I made a decision to set the lever clearance when the bike has warmed up. When it is cold it has almost no clearance. When warm it has about 5mm. I haven't touched it since.
I also have a V711 and I have adjusted the clutch once. The lever clutch lever on a lot of Guzzi's has to be pulled right into the bar to get clutch release. Short levers with a dog leg can be a problem.

Cheers, voncrump.

My V7 is exactly this...not that excessive (1.5mm cold to 4~mm hot)...

Work well...might have a louder clunk when the bike is hot...but I have not miss a shift since the first 300 KM
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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2017, 10:28:52 AM »
Havin the same issue on my 2013 V7.

FWIW, I made this adjustment to my 2013 Stone back in Dec 2012 and have not needed to repeat it since.
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Re: Difficulty shifting up from first at stand still
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2017, 10:46:35 AM »
My buddy brought his Guzzi Lemans 1 by my garage, he was having trouble shifting up from first. We discovered his crankshaft was broken in half.

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