V85 TT Merged Threadfest

[roadscum]

Revzilla has an excellent returns program. Wouldn't expect any trouble with a return if it does not fit.

Paul

[tommy2cyl]

The amount of space up front measured lock to lock is about 5 1/2 inches at the narrowest point, which is right at the gas cap basically.   The SWM Micro is 8.3 inches wide.  I suppose the question is how often are we lock to lock?  In the garage moving it around, or parking it, but certainly not riding.  Looks like the V 85 needs a tank bag shaped like a gourd if a quick ring release bag is desired.  As you say, Revzilla is good about returns so maybe give it a try.

[Cam3512]

The amount of space up front measured lock to lock is about 5 1/2 inches at the narrowest point, which is right at the gas cap basically.   The SWM Micro is 8.3 inches wide.  I suppose the question is how often are we lock to lock?  In the garage moving it around, or parking it, but certainly not riding.  Looks like the V 85 needs a tank bag shaped like a gourd if a quick ring release bag is desired.  As you say, Revzilla is good about returns so maybe give it a try.

I’d be VERY hesitant about anything that would prevent full steering lock in one direction or the other.  Safety. 

[tommy2cyl]

Here is the answer to my tank bag needs.https://www.ukbuellgroup.co.uk/419562736

The Hepco Becker ring mount places the bag attachment on the slope of the tank.  In the article they have mounted the Tourer M bag and they state their is no interference with the steering on full lock.  I think of all the quick lock manufacturers, Hepco Becker is the only one that will currently work on the V 85.
This is what I am ordering.  Hope this info is helpful to anyone looking for a  quick lock tank bag that works on our machine.

[Kiwi Dave]

Too ugly, especially if the tank bag is not present.

[Knuckle Dragger]

Too ugly, especially if the tank bag is not present.

Too ugly?  It's on an ADV bike, so I wouldn't have thought aesthetics would be a major determinant:  they're all, purposefully, ugly.

OK, it's also a Guzzi, so maybe not as unutterably hideous as some, but not even mildly svelte & sexy either....  Just kinda lumpy and..... pragmatic. 

That's what makes them so appealing:  those quirks & idiosyncrasies.  That slightly clunky 'box, the lumpy, rocking idle, those lines that hint more of a utilitarian grotesquery, a spartan functionality, than speed.  Ugly, but in a cute way.  Like an English Bull Terrier.

[Zinfan]

Here is the answer to my tank bag needs.https://www.ukbuellgroup.co.uk/419562736

The Hepco Becker ring mount places the bag attachment on the slope of the tank.  In the article they have mounted the Tourer M bag and they state their is no interference with the steering on full lock.  I think of all the quick lock manufacturers, Hepco Becker is the only one that will currently work on the V 85.
This is what I am ordering.  Hope this info is helpful to anyone looking for a  quick lock tank bag that works on our machine.

Should work well, I saw on some website that the enduro bag from Hepco Becker won't work on the V85 probably due to the bag being mounted farther down the tank slope and the "tail" of the enduro bag would hit the tank.  I checked my Mosko Moto Nomad bag today full lock to lock and there is no interference plus the way the straps work you can adjust where the bag sits on the tank so it can be moved farther back if needed.

[tommy2cyl]

Form follows function.  The design of the tank, position of the gas cap,  and the space available when the handlebars are moved lock to lock basically prohibit mounting a bag up there IMO.  I have spent more time than I care to admit  trying to find a solution for a quick lock tank bag.  If I was going to use straps, the Nomad would certainly be one, if not the option. The available width above the gas cap is about 5 1/2 ".  My analysis & as always, YMMV:       1. Cortech: Dryver 3.8 L best bag/map pocket/ 10" W/ugliest ring mount/ring not available AFAIK  2. Givi: EA123  5 L/no map pocket/7.9" W/BFO2 ring fits/ring is OK aesthetically/this bag too small to adjust fore & aft/  3. SWM Micro  2.5-5 L/no map pocket/8.26" W/some fore & aft adj./a little pricey/best looking ring/Triumph 1050 ring available  4. Oxford: straight forward ring design ( OXFDOL 281 fits)/metal/aesthetically good/4 QR 4 L is 6.7" W/map pocket fairly tall at 8.26"/ internal water proof bag (not a fan) /reasonably priced.  5. Hepco Becker: only manufacturer with a quick ring design that actually positions the tank bag back and away from the top of tank as mentioned previously. The ring design moving the bag back so it sits in line with tank slope is IMO the best solution.  The ring itself is not as "appealing" as the SWM or Oxford, but it has an industrial proper design for the task designated. Still some confusion whether the tank bag Daypack small 3-5 L will work with the ring mount.  Some site descriptions say it will, other places says it is designed for a metal tank. It is the perfect size and nice map pocket on top. 8" x 9" x 4.5".  If not, then it will be the Daypack 2.0 and I will add the small small phone holder for some route direction info.  Calling Moto Machines today to see if Daypack small with work.

[kingoffleece]

For those of you mounting straps and such protect your paint with IRC Racers tape.  I buy it at www.findtape.com.  This stuff is 100% fabulous.  2 inch by 12 foot will serve quite well.  Leading edge of forks is another key spot to use it.

[tommy2cyl]

Very timely info on ISC tape.  That was going to be one of my next projects, just ordered on Amazon Prime. Thanks.   Regarding  Hepco Becker tank bag setup. Just got off phone with Moto Machines. First off, the Daypack Small is for magnetic tanks and does not work with the tank ring.  Again depending on where I looked, conflicting info on that. Now confirmed.  Shame because that is exactly what I want. Perfect size, expandable  & nice map pocket. That left me with Daypack 2.0 (7 L) or Royster (5.5 L). I like the shape of the Royster better but it has the inner rain pouch which to me looks like a giant PITA to constantly deal with when you want something. Daypack 2.0 has separate rain cover.  Tank Ring: $70.39/Daypack 2: $94.71 3. Smart Phone Holder $23.77 = $188.87. Tank Ring is back ordered . MM had received one shipment of only a few and they are sold.  3-4 weeks on the ring to arrive.  I hope some of this info was helpful for those exploring options.

[Zinfan]

For those of you mounting straps and such protect your paint with IRC Racers tape.  I buy it at www.findtape.com.  This stuff is 100% fabulous.  2 inch by 12 foot will serve quite well.  Leading edge of forks is another key spot to use it.

Ahh thanks for the info, I had just ordered a couple of sheepskin strap protectors but I'll look at the tape as well.

[blu guzz]

i have not had a tank bag since my last bmw.  that one was a givi with the ring.  it was such a clever design.  I really miss having one so thanks for this discussion.  With the popularity of this bike, I am sure that the aftermarket will fill the need by next riding season. 

[NWrider]

First oil change at 709 Miles.   Some ferrous paste on the magnetic plug, no visible metal and only some very small aluminum flakes in the filter.

[NWrider]

On another topic, there seems to be some confusion about the maximum rpm for the V-85 motor.   I've seen this statement in quite a few places: "Offering up a claimed 80 horsepower at 7750 rpm and 59 ft/lbs of torque at 5000 rpm."  However, the TFT display seems to indicate 6800 rpm as the maximum  -- but isn't that the maximum for the Roamer? 

[blu guzz]

Mine shows 7900.  You can adjust when the shift warning comes on with the computer

[NWrider]

I wonder if the display changes after the first 900+ miles.   I know you can change the shift light as you describe but my TFT display goes from blue to red


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 starting at 6800 and continuing to the end of the arc.   My shift light goes 1st light amber at 4500 then the last - red at 5200 rpm, which I'll change when I finish the break-in period. 

I also wonder if anyone has revved to the point the limiter cuts in and what that rpm is.

[Cam3512]

You guys know what the valve clearances are on these new engines? 

Scanned the owners manual but can’t seem to find it.

[Daniel Kalal]

Hello V85TT owners,

I'd been planning on riding a Stelvio from Agostini (in Mandello) in just a few days, but it seems somebody has just bashed that one beyond repair.  Consequently, I'll be riding a V85TT, instead (I do not know about the injuries to the rider).

I've read the operator's manual, and I think I've got most of it figured, but a few (easy) questions remain that I'm hoping one of you will be able to answer:

1) when the seat is removed, are the battery terminals accessible (perhaps by removing a cover) so that I can connect the harness for an external outlet?  This was easy to do with the Stelvio as there was only a small cover that needed to be removed.

2) when the seat is removed, the manual says there's something they call a "glove box" up front.  How does this space compare with the under-seat storage in the Stelvio?  Mainly, I'd like to know if my small air-pump will still fit.  Could one of you give me the three measurements?

3) I believe Guzzi offers an optional seat for a higher seat position as the existing seat not have an adjustment (as does the Stelvio).  I've not heard that anybody has even seen this optional seat.  Have you?

4) there's a small bum-stop attachment to seat that seems to be screwed on (I guess).  Assuming it's easily removed, does this give you an additional inch, or so of space without any discomfort from (say) a fitting that might remain?  Any of you try it?

Thank you.

[bad Chad]

I can answer question 3, yes there is a higher seat from Guzzi.

[Cam3512]

Hello V85TT owners,

I'd been planning on riding a Stelvio from Agostini (in Mandello) in just a few days, but it seems somebody has just bashed that one beyond repair.  Consequently, I'll be riding a V85TT, instead (I do not know about the injuries to the rider).

I've read the operator's manual, and I think I've got most of it figured, but a few (easy) questions remain that I'm hoping one of you will be able to answer:

1) when the seat is removed, are the battery terminals accessible (perhaps by removing a cover) so that I can connect the harness for an external outlet?  This was easy to do with the Stelvio as there was only a small cover that needed to be removed.

2) when the seat is removed, the manual says there's something they call a "glove box" up front.  How does this space compare with the under-seat storage in the Stelvio?  Mainly, I'd like to know if my small air-pump will still fit.  Could one of you give me the three measurements?

3) I believe Guzzi offers an optional seat for a higher seat position as the existing seat not have an adjustment (as does the Stelvio).  I've not heard that anybody has even seen this optional seat.  Have you?

4) there's a small bum-stop attachment to seat that seems to be screwed on (I guess).  Assuming it's easily removed, does this give you an additional inch, or so of space without any discomfort from (say) a fitting that might remain?  Any of you try it?

Thank you.

Daniel,

1) Yes.   Battery is easily accessible. Seat is removed with the ignition key at the very back of the bike.

3) Yes.  AF1 (Guzzi) sells a taller seat.  I bought the shorter.

4) Yes.  Bump stop is easily removed.  Nuts are on bottom of seat.

 I will try to measure that compartment under the seat tomorrow morning. Unless somebody beats me to it.

Cam

[Zinfan]

Hello V85TT owners,

I'd been planning on riding a Stelvio from Agostini (in Mandello) in just a few days, but it seems somebody has just bashed that one beyond repair.  Consequently, I'll be riding a V85TT, instead (I do not know about the injuries to the rider).

I've read the operator's manual, and I think I've got most of it figured, but a few (easy) questions remain that I'm hoping one of you will be able to answer:

1) when the seat is removed, are the battery terminals accessible (perhaps by removing a cover) so that I can connect the harness for an external outlet?  This was easy to do with the Stelvio as there was only a small cover that needed to be removed.

2) when the seat is removed, the manual says there's something they call a "glove box" up front.  How does this space compare with the under-seat storage in the Stelvio?  Mainly, I'd like to know if my small air-pump will still fit.  Could one of you give me the three measurements?

3) I believe Guzzi offers an optional seat for a higher seat position as the existing seat not have an adjustment (as does the Stelvio).  I've not heard that anybody has even seen this optional seat.  Have you?

4) there's a small bum-stop attachment to seat that seems to be screwed on (I guess).  Assuming it's easily removed, does this give you an additional inch, or so of space without any discomfort from (say) a fitting that might remain?  Any of you try it?

Thank you.

1) You can get to the terminals once you remove the glove box, if the bike has it's tools as pictured above you use the small allen key to remove the two bolts attaching the glove box to the frame and you can then pull the glove box out.

2) 8.5 inches long by about 5 inches wide and only 1.5 inches deep at most and pretty shallow for most of it.  The Stelvio storage under the passenger seat is much deeper and can hold a bunch more.

3) Have not tried the high seat

4) Yes you can unscrew the seat bump and there isn't anything that would cause you discomfort if you did remove it however you would need to be careful as the fabric of the seat below the bump isn't glued down so it will raise up and could possibly be snagged and torn by an errant boot buckle or the like.

[Daniel Kalal]

2) 8.5 inches long by about 5 inches wide and only 1.5 inches deep at most and pretty shallow for most of it.  The Stelvio storage under the passenger seat is much deeper and can hold a bunch more.

The Stelvio is 8"x6"x3" so it's a fair bit larger.  Perhaps the V85TT seat doesn't fit right to the top rim of the box--I guess I'll just see how close it comes, but it looks like it might be too small to hold the pump and the associated cords.  I don't want to haul the rear box or panniers around, so that's not an option.

[Zinfan]

The Stelvio is 8"x6"x3" so it's a fair bit larger.  Perhaps the V85TT seat doesn't fit right to the top rim of the box--I guess I'll just see how close it comes, but it looks like it might be too small to hold the pump and the associated cords.  I don't want to haul the rear box or panniers around, so that's not an option.

I have a Slime brand pump that measures 4.5"X3.5"X1.5" that I tried to fit in the glove box and it actually worked.  The seat needs a bit of pressure to fully seat but not that much and I don't think it would affect anything.  The associated cords and hose would most likely fit in the space where my Fuze block is in the picture.

[Daniel Kalal]

I have a Slime brand pump that measures 4.5"X3.5"X1.5" that I tried to fit in the glove box and it actually worked.

Thank you.  That's good news.  I need to go shopping for a smaller pump, which is likely going to be available at most any Walmart or the like--easily done.  I'll snip off the cigarette plug, replace it with a Powerlet plug and should be good to go.

[blu guzz]

i pinned my throttle today and it cuts out between 7500 and 7900 but it happens so fast I can't tell you exactly.

[NWrider]

Thanks Blue Guzz for the confirmation.  But to clarify, you're saying that the red arc starts at 7900 and ends at 9K?

Cam3512, the clearances are .004 intake and .006 exhaust.   I just now got through checking mine.   What I found:

LCyl: Int .006 Exh .008   RCyl: Int .008 Exh .006

For all of the Pdf manuals go to: Thisoldtractor.com
He also has most of the torque specs for fasteners & bolts

[Zinfan]

I wonder if the display changes after the first 900+ miles.   I know you can change the shift light as you describe but my TFT display goes from blue to red


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 starting at 6800 and continuing to the end of the arc.   My shift light goes 1st light amber at 4500 then the last - red at 5200 rpm, which I'll change when I finish the break-in period. 

I also wonder if anyone has revved to the point the limiter cuts in and what that rpm is.

My display looks just like yours and i have 1500 miles on mine.

[blu guzz]

sorry if not clear.  The red starts at 6900 and stays red until between 7500 and where the engine cuts off but in any event, not over 7900. it seems to still be pulling even at that point but MG must have decided to shut it down for the longevity of the engine.

[slopokes]

It cuts off at 7900 soooo you don’t get a speeding ticket...👍

[blu guzz]

even at 100 mph, there is still a ways to go until redline in 6th so i guess you could get a ticket in spite of the company's best efforts.