V85 TT Merged Threadfest

[Dharma Bum]

Silly arguments about colors.
Make it a tribute to Guzzi's "agricultural roots.

[ITSec]

Saves money when you fill up .

And loses time when you fill up again (and again!)...

[Murray]

And loses time when you fill up again (and again!)...

Run out in the middle of nowhere because you had the audacity to take your adventure bike outside the city limits. As others have said not the new motor as promised that will make the hp claimed still has 1980's bmw suspension.

And if you bother to wait for the flash player to run through the potential names some one somewhere has managed to get Bluster past the marketing !@#$wits and onto the website as an option, Well played I say Well Played  .

[Turin]

I liked it at first, but am over it now.

[Sheepdog]

80hp at the crank will be about 65 at the rear wheel. That looks possible...

[Huzo]

You want an espresso with that?   

You do that favour for me and I'll give you more than an espresso!
Thing is, what I asked for would result in less time in manufacturing or at least no more !

[Devildog]

Not too sure about the red trellis frame ducktail. Agreed, it looks better with the panniers on.

[ridingron]

Am I the only living person in the Galaxy who cares about having a fairly large gas tank???   My little V7 has a 22 liter tank, and I wish it had maybe a gallon or two more capacity.     

The only time you have too much gas is when you're on fire.    How much money do you want to save? Only fill it half way.

[fotoguzzi]

here's a real ADV bike.. you can buy right now..



well over 300 mile range, and under 350# before loading it w/gear

[pete roper]

80hp at the crank will be about 65 at the rear wheel. That looks possible...

How so?

[Sheepdog]

My 790cc Triumph T100 does about 60-65hp according to the norm for what I’ve done to it (pipes/airbox/jetting...I haven’t dyno’d it). I can see Guzzi doing that with more cubes and fuel injection. The Triumph is really conservatively tuned. Just another 500 rpms before the limiter would kick up the power a bit. Good breathing and the right cam could do the rest...

[pete roper]

My 790cc Triumph T100 does about 60-65hp according to the norm for what I�ve done to it (pipes/airbox/jetting...I haven�t dyno�d it). I can see Guzzi doing that with more cubes and fuel injection. The Triumph is really conservatively tuned. Just another 500 rpms before the limiter would kick up the power a bit. Good breathing and the right cam could do the rest...

How can you see Guzzi 'Doing it'? Magic wand? Faery Dust? Sorry, unless we can see what this new 'Wonder Engine' consists of we'll know nothing.

We have no real idea of the engine's architecture, we have no information on the engine management system. All we have is some pictures of a mock-up for a show! Get a grip!

Look, I don't know either but I'm not willing to pull figures out of my arse by comparing them to other, cosmetically, similar engines.

As I've said before I think what will be offered will be an 8V, pushrod, version of the V9 motor. A 'Back to the future' 'Nuovo Lario' motor. I simply can't see that making the figures they are spruiking, either at the rear wheel or the crank.

Pete

[Zoom Zoom]

Only a 15 liter fuel tank?   Can that possibly be right?

Am I the only living person in the Galaxy who cares about having a fairly large gas tank???   My little V7 has a 22 liter tank, and I wish it had maybe a gallon or two more capacity.

Judging from the other post, there are at least 3 of us. As you're well aware, living where you do, fuel stops can be few and far between. I have had folks tell me they don't need more fuel because their bladder will need emptied before the tank is empty. Well, in the middle of nowhere, I figure I can stop and relieve myself if I really need to. Fuel OTOH, may be non-existent. I would rather have it and not need it than the other way around............. ..

Now, depending on how this all plays out, perhaps Guzzi will enlarge the fuel cell on the production bike, or someone will develop a hopper tank like Stucchi did, which I have on my Stelvio.

John Henry

[Zoom Zoom]

It look a little like Chuck, the yellow Angry Bird. 

That was funny!

Thanks for an early morning laugh.

John Henry

[bobrebos]

Paint scheme reminds me of a candy cane!   

[chuck peterson]

It look a little like Chuck, the yellow Angry Bird. 

I gotta go look for a Chuck toy...

[Sasquatch Jim]

 That's a good looking motor sickle.

[willowstreetguzziguy]

I may be missing it and maybe because its a prototype but where does it say "Moto Guzzi" on it so that people will know what it is? If you want brand awareness, you should prominently show the name of the product somewhere on it. JMHO

[Guzzistajohn]

It’s ok, rather have a tiger

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

I may be missing it and maybe because its a prototype but where does it say "Moto Guzzi" on it so that people will know what it is? If you want brand awareness, you should prominently show the name of the product somewhere on it. JMHO

Let's see... it says "Moto Guzzi" on the instruments, seat, sidecovers, rims and rocker covers. Probably a few more places I can't see in the photos.

[willowstreetguzziguy]

Let's see... it says "Moto Guzzi" on the instruments, seat, sidecovers, rims and rocker covers. Probably a few more places I can't see in the photos.

Sorry, i forgot to use my magnifying glass. Seriously, if someone pulls up beside a V85 at a stop light, will they know it's a Guzzi? They aren't going to read it on the instruments, won't see it on the seat because you'r on the seat, maybe... they'll see it on the valve covers?

Harley can get away with it because EVERYONE knows a Harley without it written anywhere on the bike, but a Moto Guzzi? It might help to get the word out if it said it prominently somewhere. Just trying to spread the word.

[TimmyTheHog]

Here is another one thinking 15L is way too small...

At least 18 or get that V7 21 L back on there!

[Huzo]

Here is another one thinking 15L is way too small...

At least 18 or get that V7 21 L back on there!

Yeah, that would have to change.

[Green1000S]

 15 litre tank means waaaay too many MSR bottles strapped on panniers....
Not good, but I do love the looks of V85.
I doubt I would sell my Green Hippo (aka Stelvio NTX), but V85 might be fun thing to have...

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Sorry, i forgot to use my magnifying glass. Seriously, if someone pulls up beside a V85 at a stop light, will they know it's a Guzzi? They aren't going to read it on the instruments, won't see it on the seat because you'r on the seat, maybe... they'll see it on the valve covers?

Harley can get away with it because EVERYONE knows a Harley without it written anywhere on the bike, but a Moto Guzzi? It might help to get the word out if it said it prominently somewhere. Just trying to spread the word.

And if "Moto Guzzi" was big and bold across the gas tank, someone would complain about that. 

[giusto]

You want an espresso with that?   

I tried

[Matteo]

Making one now!

[Murray]

Here is another one thinking 15L is way too small...

At least 18 or get that V7 21 L back on there!

On an adventure bike 18 litres is barely useful on a sports bike, 25 minium for something that is supposed to go remote places, unless they find some kind of ju ju and manage to get consumption down to something like 3 litres per 100 then 18 litres would be ok. That won't be happening with an air cooled motor though.

[LowRyter]

How can you see Guzzi 'Doing it'? Magic wand? Faery Dust? Sorry, unless we can see what this new 'Wonder Engine' consists of we'll know nothing.

We have no real idea of the engine's architecture, we have no information on the engine management system. All we have is some pictures of a mock-up for a show! Get a grip!

Look, I don't know either but I'm not willing to pull figures out of my arse by comparing them to other, cosmetically, similar engines.

As I've said before I think what will be offered will be an 8V, pushrod, version of the V9 motor. A 'Back to the future' 'Nuovo Lario' motor. I simply can't see that making the figures they are spruiking, either at the rear wheel or the crank.

Pete

I suspect skepticism in that post.

Mr Roper, I'll have you know we have some excellent Guzzi experts here.  I imagine we'll see some of our board members  take this new high power machine to Flat Tracks and perhaps the Dakar very soon.

Chip, chip cheerio

[TimmyTheHog]

On an adventure bike 18 litres is barely useful on a sports bike, 25 minium for something that is supposed to go remote places, unless they find some kind of ju ju and manage to get consumption down to something like 3 litres per 100 then 18 litres would be ok. That won't be happening with an air cooled motor though.

Ya I agree with you

I am hoping whatever Guzzi magic they are pulling will be enough to compete with the current market..namely tiger 800 and F800GS