V85 TT Merged Threadfest

[kingoffleece]

Yamaha Tracer, takes a minute to adjust seat height.

...........and a lifetime to fix the look of it!

[LowRyter]

...........and a lifetime to fix the look of it!

uhhmm,  yes but I have to say that for all the "Adventure Bikes"- V85 included.  At least the Yammie doesn't have a beak.  it does have integrated touring pack, moderate weight and lot of power.

[Vagrant]

It's a road bike period. No off road pretense at all.

[twowheeladdict]

Has anyone ever done that except a few BMW models?

Yamaha Super Tenere and FJR1300.

Triumph Trophy SE and I believe the Tiger Explorer.

Kawasaki at least offers tall and low seats to replace the OEM for many of their models.

Of course Harley will put you on the frame or air you up with the road zeppelin. 

[twowheeladdict]

It's a road bike period. No off road pretense at all.

Most Adventure bikes are at most gravel road and hardpack unless in the hands of a very skilled rider who exercises.

I would have bought a Honda Crosstourer if they would have just put Cruise control on it. 

[Roebling3]

Depending on where in the night I was, I was always grateful for the bladder tank I added.
Now I wish it was in my pants.  anon. 

There's an outfit that makes rectilinear, injection molded fuel tanks for the adventuresome on mcs. I cannot recall the name. They have special carriers too, for mcs. An easy fit up no doubt,  R3~

[Idontwantapickle]

Every now and then I go look back a few years in the threads in the henhouse forum.
It seems that the past is prologue.....

http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=74048.0

Be sure to read reply #10

[oilhed]

Yamaha Tracer, takes a minute to adjust seat height.

What's the lowest seat height?

[TimmyTheHog]

What's the lowest seat height?

845mm

Highest at 860mm

However I find tracer has the most comfy seat of most of the ADV I sat on.

Quite a bit narrow around the tank where it meets the seat with wide back toward to the butt cheeks area.

[twowheeladdict]

845mm

Highest at 860mm

However I find tracer has the most comfy seat of most of the ADV I sat on.

Quite a bit narrow around the tank where it meets the seat with wide back toward to the butt cheeks area.

It looks good in person.  If I was still distance riding, it would be on my short list.  Nice upgrade from my Versys 650.

[bad Chad]

 I was just goofin.   I'm a huge guy of course regular motorcycles would seem small to me it's sarcasm !👍🏼

[TimmyTheHog]

I was just goofin.   I'm a huge guy of course regular motorcycles would seem small to me it's sarcasm !👍🏼

lol...if you truly were...it escaped my head by a 1000 miles LOL...

  need more coffee...who knew a baby can poo so much...

[Kev m]

need more coffee...who knew a baby can poo so much...

Ha ha everyone who has had one lol.

But better that than not.

[LowRyter]

It looks good in person.  If I was still distance riding, it would be on my short list.  Nice upgrade from my Versys 650.

If Yamaha would make one with styling like a Duc SS, it might be something.  No, I am not a fan of "adventure bikes". 

[twowheeladdict]

If Yamaha would make one with styling like a Duc SS, it might be something.  No, I am not a fan of "adventure bikes".

What they lack in looks they make up for in back roads touring comfort.

[Mr Pootle]

Check out Guzziriders.org, a British Guzzi forum. In the section called The Bar is a thread headed Oooooo. I saw it, and thought "Ooooo" too.

[HarveyMushman]

Has anyone ever done that except a few BMW models?

And the Stelvio . . .

[Darren Williams]

If Yamaha would make one with styling like a Duc SS, it might be something.  No, I am not a fan of "adventure bikes".

Technically the Tracer GT, like the FJ09 previous models, are not adventure bikes, but defined as sport touring bikes. While they are a bit tall with wide bars, think flat track or supermoto, they run sport bike size 17" tires front and back, have no bash plate or off road guards and real world street tuned suspension (not track tuned). The motor is tuned for low end torque with a modest low teen red line. And now with a wide variety of ride modes and traction settings, along with electronic cruise control. These are really sporty touring bikes.

[LowRyter]

Technically the Tracer GT, like the FJ09 previous models, are not adventure bikes, but defined as sport touring bikes. While they are a bit tall with wide bars, think flat track or supermoto, they run sport bike size 17" tires front and back, have no bash plate or off road guards and real world street tuned suspension (not track tuned). The motor is tuned for low end torque with a modest low teen red line. And now with a wide variety of ride modes and traction settings, along with electronic cruise control. These are really sporty touring bikes.

yeah, and how is that different from an "Adventure bike"?   (Other than they are ugly and aren't so sporty.)

[Darren Williams]

yeah, and how is that different from an "Adventure bike"?   (Other than they are ugly and aren't so sporty.)

An Adventure is going to have narrow 19 or 21 inch front tires along with 150 series rear tires. Not sport bike tires like the Tracer. And the tracer has a light weight alloy frame and swing arm instead of a heavy duty trellis type steel frame of an Adventure. The Tracer has a road tuned suspension where an Adventure has a softer longer travel suspension for riding off the pavement. The adventures will also have a 270 twin or something similar for an engine where the Tracer has a sport oriented triple.

Yamaha has the Tenere as its adventure bikes and the Tracer as it’s sport touring bike. There are a lot of differences. The ergos may be similar, but the purpose is totally different.

[LowRyter]

An Adventure is going to have narrow 19 or 21 inch front tires along with 150 series rear tires. Not sport bike tires like the Tracer. And the tracer has a light weight alloy frame and swing arm instead of a heavy duty trellis type steel frame of an Adventure. The Tracer has a road tuned suspension where an Adventure has a softer longer travel suspension for riding off the pavement. The adventures will also have a 270 twin or something similar for an engine where the Tracer has a sport oriented triple.

Yamaha has the Tenere as its adventure bikes and the Tracer as it�s sport touring bike. There are a lot of differences. The ergos may be similar, but the purpose is totally different.

So this makes them ugly and not so sporty?   

[TimmyTheHog]

Lol...

Well somebody boxed said: all bikes are adventure bikes, it is what and how you do with them makes it adventurous. All other things just helps.

I am not saying 19/21 with knobby doesn't help. I am saying it makes it easier and better. 

[twowheeladdict]

yeah, and how is that different from an "Adventure bike"?   (Other than they are ugly and aren't so sporty.)

'Adventure' bike is the in thing right now.  They are typically upright sitting motorcycles with frame mounted fairings that have better than average suspension travel.  From there they range from sport bike ride quality to dual sport ride quality.  Pick the type of riding you are going to do and pick the bike to do it on.

The Versys 650 is on the sport bike ride quality end of the spectrum and the KLR650 is on the dual sport end of of the spectrum among the offerings from Kawasaki.

Then you get into the larger displacement bikes that are considered 'Adventure Touring' bikes. 

Those that love Adventure bikes would see your bike as outdated or a throwback to the sad past of motorcycling. 

I for one love all motorcycles and would have hundreds of them if I had the means.   

[Darren Williams]

Being an Engineer type of guy, I think "mechanical purposefulness" is beauty. When I look at a Stelvio or my GS, I see a bike designed to carry loads over unimproved roads to paved to superslab for long distances. The engine, suspension, frame and luggage capacity are all designed to accomplish the task at hand. I think the mechanical end is alluring and enjoy looking at the mechanical design they exhibit. Same for all the other bike in my garage, even the Griso.

[xackley]

Wouldn't parts availability and easy access to knowledgeable mechanics be a top priority when choosing an adventure motorcycle.

[Toecutter]

Wouldn't parts availability and easy access to knowledgeable mechanics be a top priority when choosing an adventure motorcycle.

I think a top priority might be the ease of maintenance and simplicity in design. Don't need a web of mechanics, if the machine is reliably built.

But, in my experience, I prefer a combo of both... simple, easy machines, with good support. If I had to skew in one direction or the other, I'd pick the one that's easy to work and has less to go wrong.

[LowRyter]

I think "adventure" is the eye of the beholder.   

[bmp72]

 :copcar:fLooks nice in blue too

https://moto-station.com/moto-revue/actu/scoop-moto-guzzi-v85-photos-infos-et-1er-test-officielles/400631

The pictures show a 2 valve engine...same bore and stroke as the v9, but with 80nm (?) torque and 80hp at 8400 rpm

[pete roper]

It's not going to make anywhere close to 80hp. Doesn't mean it won't be a nice thing to ride but it will be eviscerated in the press if it doesn't make the right, or even the suggested, numbers and to make that sort of power it would have to be reving at 10,000 rpm plus.

It's a 2V pushrod motor. It would have to be fueled by some pretty special unicorn farts to make anything close.

[Chuck in Indiana]

It's not going to make anywhere close to 80hp. Doesn't mean it won't be a nice thing to ride but it will be eviscerated in the press if it doesn't make the right, or even the suggested, numbers and to make that sort of power it would have to be reving at 10,000 rpm plus.

It's a 2V pushrod motor. It would have to be fueled by some pretty special unicorn farts to make anything close.

Yeah, my Aero engine makes a whopping 50 hp on the dyno, and it doesn't have any pollution controls. Admittedly, it has a mild (V65) cam, but it's hard for me to see another 30 hp lurking in there.