Author Topic: V85 TT Merged Threadfest (Read 506008 times)

s1120 · « **Reply #1230 on:** January 22, 2019, 07:09:11 AM »

It is a good looking bike. The style is a little modern.. but a lot classic also.. Not as futuristic as most of the new ADV bikes.. but not retro either...its a good mix. I like it.

Joliet Jim · « **Reply #1231 on:** January 22, 2019, 07:34:06 AM »

I like the bike and it's competitively priced, but I just think part of the problem with the industry is they are all getting too expensive. My 78 Bonnie was $1800 which would be about $6900 today. That I could afford as a young 19 year old. Most stuff is getting pretty expensive especially if you're in the north with a short riding season.

rdbandkab · « **Reply #1232 on:** January 22, 2019, 08:12:56 AM »

I'll be heading up to the Cleveland Expo for the IBS next weekend. I'm hoping to check out the Royal Enfield Himalayas. I think that would be a nice inexpensive "kerplunker" to mess around with. I'm digging all the Youtube vids of guys taking them all over. It appears that the earlier vids are of the Himi that's a 350.. The new model is a 650.

I'm thinking they're around $5000-ish.

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #1233 on:** January 22, 2019, 08:39:24 AM »

Quote from: rdbandkab on January 22, 2019, 08:12:56 AM

I'll be heading up to the Cleveland Expo for the IBS next weekend. I'm hoping to check out the Royal Enfield Himalayas. I think that would be a nice inexpensive "kerplunker" to mess around with. I'm digging all the Youtube vids of guys taking them all over. It appears that the earlier vids are of the Himi that's a 350.. The new model is a 650.

I'm thinking they're around $5000-ish.

The Himalayan is a 411 cc single. https://www.cycleworld.com/royal-enfield-himalayan-adv-bike-for-new-world My friend Leo loves his.

The only 650s are twins: Interceptor and Continental GT.

JohninVT · « **Reply #1234 on:** January 22, 2019, 09:26:16 AM »

Quote from: Joliet Jim on January 22, 2019, 07:34:06 AM

I like the bike and it's competitively priced, but I just think part of the problem with the industry is they are all getting too expensive. My 78 Bonnie was $1800 which would be about $6900 today. That I could afford as a young 19 year old. Most stuff is getting pretty expensive especially if you're in the north with a short riding season.

There are a ton of brand new, standard middleweight motorcycles on the market for under $7k. The Honda 500 twins, the Suzuki SV650, Kawasaki 400 Ninja and Z400 just to name a few. If you look at cruisers, there are dozens under 7k. I've seen leftover Stone's for 7k. For another thousand you start getting into bikes like the Yamaha XSR700, which is a great machine.

There are many more great motorcycles, at a lower price than ever before. We're in a golden age of motorcycling. Especially when it comes to smaller displacement bikes.

Huzo · « **Reply #1235 on:** January 22, 2019, 11:51:09 AM »

I had intended to have mine re painted. But now think to get the Ronald Mc Donald one, have the yellow replaced with Italian green and the black stripe on the tank etc. in red.

bad Chad · « **Reply #1236 on:** January 22, 2019, 12:00:11 PM »

Quote from: Joliet Jim on January 22, 2019, 07:34:06 AM

I like the bike and it's competitively priced, but I just think part of the problem with the industry is they are all getting too expensive. My 78 Bonnie was $1800 which would be about $6900 today. That I could afford as a young 19 year old. Most stuff is getting pretty expensive especially if you're in the north with a short riding season.

I hear what you'er saying Joliet. But the TT is a FAR more capable by practically any measure you can come up with. A much more fair comparison would be to a V7III. The v7 is still a better motorcycle by most objective measurements and the price is much closer, ($1800 today = $7145) a v7III list starts at $8490, but we all know they can be had for far less.

rdbandkab · « **Reply #1237 on:** January 22, 2019, 12:57:43 PM »

Quote from: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 22, 2019, 08:39:24 AM

The Himalayan is a 411 cc single. https://www.cycleworld.com/royal-enfield-himalayan-adv-bike-for-new-world My friend Leo loves his.

The only 650s are twins: Interceptor and Continental GT.

You are correct sir! That's a bummer...

Looks like I'll have to wait for that to happen.

*article:

In recent reports, Siddhartha Lal, CEO of Royal Enfield, confirmed that they would not bring new bikes on the 650 Twins’ platform for the next two years. Although, he did not rule out the possibility of more 650cc models.

We all know that Royal Enfield is planning a more powerful version of its dual-purpose Himalayan. Its specially developed 411cc engine, as per public opinion, feels a bit underpowered.

Royal Enfield Himalayan ABS
So, there are chances of Royal Enfield Himalayan 650 being under development. However, we believe that the launch might happen in 2020. Our expected launch period is based on Siddhartha Lal’s statement.

Here's a single :

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #1238 on:** January 23, 2019, 07:01:13 AM »

Quote from: JohninVT on January 22, 2019, 09:26:16 AM

There are a ton of brand new, standard middleweight motorcycles on the market for under $7k. The Honda 500 twins, the Suzuki SV650, Kawasaki 400 Ninja and Z400 just to name a few. If you look at cruisers, there are dozens under 7k. I've seen leftover Stone's for 7k. For another thousand you start getting into bikes like the Yamaha XSR700, which is a great machine.

There are many more great motorcycles, at a lower price than ever before. We're in a golden age of motorcycling. Especially when it comes to smaller displacement bikes.

And the majority of them are assembled in Thailand or India. The Japanese build quality is suffering some because they are so price conscious that they are cheaping out wherever they can.

Devildog · « **Reply #1239 on:** January 26, 2019, 07:11:42 AM »

This is a color option that I hadn't seen before:

Devildog · « **Reply #1240 on:** January 26, 2019, 07:53:28 AM »

But.....I'm having real trouble with the non refundable deposit on an untested bike, a motor no one has even heard running (much less but on a dyno) and an Italian company that has a reputation for not meeting deadlines (the Bobber Sport was to be with dealers in December).
It's still a 'wait and see' for me. Unfortunately.

Rhodan · « **Reply #1241 on:** January 26, 2019, 08:33:38 AM »

FWIW, I did see a bobber sport at my dealer last week. I think some other people are starting to see them too. That admittedly doesn't address your other points.

bad Chad · « **Reply #1242 on:** January 26, 2019, 10:03:05 AM »

So don’t pre order. It’s not like their not going to sell you one as fast as possible. Perhaps if preordered you might get it home a few weeks before the next guy, but I have my doubts about that. I suspect pre order is a bit of a gimmick. Let’s say Guzzi sends over a container of a 100tt in April. And 50 are spoken for ahead, they still need to sell the other 50 bikes!

JohninVT · « **Reply #1243 on:** January 26, 2019, 10:51:21 AM »

Pre-ordering gets you $250 in accessories. If you were already going to buy one anyway that’s a nice bonus. If you’re on the fence don’t pre-order. If you’re not going to buy one anyway....what difference does it make.

This pre-order program is the first smart thing Guzzi’s marketing department has done in years. They’re not going to saddle dealers with a ton of bikes that don’t sell if the bike is a flop. The program lends an air of exclusivity to the bike which is a good thing for perception and for resale down the line.

bad Chad · « **Reply #1244 on:** January 26, 2019, 11:07:30 AM »

Plus one.

s1120 · « **Reply #1245 on:** January 26, 2019, 01:37:05 PM »

Quote from: JohninVT on January 26, 2019, 10:51:21 AM

Pre-ordering gets you $250 in accessories. If you were already going to buy one anyway that’s a nice bonus. If you’re on the fence don’t pre-order. If you’re not going to buy one anyway....what difference does it make.

This pre-order program is the first smart thing Guzzi’s marketing department has done in years. They’re not going to saddle dealers with a ton of bikes that don’t sell if the bike is a flop. The program lends an air of exclusivity to the bike which is a good thing for perception and for resale down the line.

Ya gives them a real feel for how many they will sell also.. I mean, if they get 100 presales... they odds are wont be sending out 5000 bikes...

egschade · « **Reply #1246 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:45:46 AM »

Quote from: Huzo on January 22, 2019, 11:51:09 AM

I had intended to have mine re painted. But now think to get the Ronald Mc Donald one, have the yellow replaced with Italian green and the black stripe on the tank etc. in red.

If you are going to repaint it anyway, why not get the solid gray and save a few hundred dollars?

Huzo · « **Reply #1247 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:50:41 AM »

Frame wrong colour

Cam3512 · « **Reply #1248 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:19:11 PM »

Quote from: egschade on January 28, 2019, 06:45:46 AM

If you are going to repaint it anyway, why not get the solid gray and save a few hundred dollars?

As far as I know they’re the same price. It’s the bags that add $1,000. to any color.

TimmyTheHog · « **Reply #1249 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:40:44 PM »

Quote from: Cam3512 on January 28, 2019, 04:19:11 PM

As far as I know they’re the same price. It’s the bags that add $1,000. to any color.

That is what it seems to me and concur what the salesman told me regardless of the specs of both bikes.

tris · « **Reply #1250 on:** January 29, 2019, 08:42:17 AM »

I looked at a V85 and a Himalayan back to back a while ago at the NEC bike show and the V85 is much more nicely finished but is probably going to be twice as much

I guess you pays yer money and takes yer pick

rdbandkab · « **Reply #1251 on:** January 31, 2019, 10:28:37 AM »

At least twice as much... Did we decide on the final V85 price? Probably in the $14000-$15000 realm?
I believe the RE's are (supposedly) going for $5000.00. But for me the RE would be a "solo" bike. Well.....maybe 2up also. The missus is game for any bike ride. Might have to find some beefier springs though..

Anyway... I have time to make any new bike choices. I'm hoping that Guzzi comes out with another (roadie) variant of the V85. I'm also hoping that Guzzi instills a bit more confidence in bike shops appearing rather than disappearing. (not sure that's going to happen, but every so often MG gives me a glimmer).

I'll keep the Breva 1100 in the stable regardless.

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #1252 on:** January 31, 2019, 11:02:44 AM »

Quote from: rdbandkab on January 31, 2019, 10:28:37 AM

At least twice as much... Did we decide on the final V85 price? Probably in the $14000-$15000 realm?
I believe the RE's are (supposedly) going for $5000.00. But for me the RE would be a "solo" bike. Well.....maybe 2up also. The missus is game for any bike ride. Might have to find some beefier springs though..

Anyway... I have time to make any new bike choices. I'm hoping that Guzzi comes out with another (roadie) variant of the V85. I'm also hoping that Guzzi instills a bit more confidence in bike shops appearing rather than disappearing. (not sure that's going to happen, but every so often MG gives me a glimmer).

I'll keep the Breva 1100 in the stable regardless.

$12900 with the bags IIRC. My buddy Leo paid right around $5k "out the door" for his Himalayan.

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #1253 on:** January 31, 2019, 11:14:17 AM »

Quote from: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 31, 2019, 11:02:44 AM

$12900 with the bags IIRC. My buddy Leo paid right around $5k "out the door" for his Himalayan.

Of course many overlook "cost of ownership". That's one reason I have yet to own a Ducati.

janguzzi · « **Reply #1254 on:** February 07, 2019, 02:15:02 PM »

http://www.motoguzzi.com/en_EN/news/v85-start-of-production/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=v85-start-production&utm_content=ppl&utm_term=EN

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V85 TT, available from dealers by the end of February

Photo from the prodcution (source: https://www.facebook.com/insella.it/)
https://scontent.fham3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51825976_2055568827859266_4928458311981858816_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fham3-1.fna&oh=e2fdd58e4e137c4497d20235f9ff996d&oe=5CF2C90C

TimmyTheHog · « **Reply #1255 on:** February 07, 2019, 02:22:34 PM »

Quote from: janguzzi on February 07, 2019, 02:15:02 PM

http://www.motoguzzi.com/en_EN/news/v85-start-of-production/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=v85-start-production&utm_content=ppl&utm_term=EN
Photo from the prodcution (source: https://www.facebook.com/insella.it/)
https://scontent.fham3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51825976_2055568827859266_4928458311981858816_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fham3-1.fna&oh=e2fdd58e4e137c4497d20235f9ff996d&oe=5CF2C90C

Oh yay!! An English Version that I don't have to use Google Translator to read it LOL...

Thanks!!!

bad Chad · « **Reply #1256 on:** February 07, 2019, 02:25:44 PM »

February delivery is for Europe, NA will have to wait slightly longer.

Muzz · « **Reply #1257 on:** February 07, 2019, 02:26:44 PM »

So which one in the photo is Luigi?

Muzz · « **Reply #1258 on:** February 07, 2019, 02:29:33 PM »

During our recent visit to NZ's capital Wellington, I called in to Scooterazzi/Motorazzi. I have gotten to know the owner on the Guzzi rallys I have been on. He is expecting to see them in April down here.

LowRyter · « **Reply #1259 on:** February 07, 2019, 02:31:33 PM »

You'd think someone would publish some test ride reviews since the bikes are coming out the building.

News:

Author Topic: V85 TT Merged Threadfest (Read 506008 times)