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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1380 on: February 21, 2019, 06:28:58 PM »
Hey ... the first bike off the production line is missing the windshield!  Whoops.

They probably leave it off for rolling road diagnostics or something similar. Just looked at the second vid the swing arm is still mounted in the back of the gearbox why did the original Baja 650 bikes fail to finish the Dakar again?
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1381 on: February 22, 2019, 12:42:58 PM »
Unfortunately the video was deleted but you can find some screenshots here:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1812768158827254
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1383 on: February 26, 2019, 02:25:35 PM »
Loud tappets save lives.... :undecided: :grin:
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1384 on: February 26, 2019, 04:49:51 PM »
The video was officially released by Moto.it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjud2-k4xXE
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1385 on: February 26, 2019, 06:24:30 PM »
Needs a WindJammer.
He lost the run of himself.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1386 on: February 26, 2019, 08:28:02 PM »

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1387 on: February 26, 2019, 09:16:50 PM »
I believe this bike and the RE Himalayan have the potential to do very well...I'm 66 now and I know the Norge will someday become a handful for an old man...I'll never get rid of her, but she may get a younger, sleeker sister... :laugh:

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1388 on: February 27, 2019, 05:37:22 AM »
I believe this bike and the RE Himalayan have the potential to do very well...I'm 66 now and I know the Norge will someday become a handful for an old man...I'll never get rid of her, but she may get a younger, sleeker sister... :laugh:

The Himal is just too underpowered for this market (States).  I suspect they will offer a 650 (new engine) version and then things will pick up for them in these parts.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1390 on: February 28, 2019, 05:06:15 PM »
We need to get a V85 to AF1.  Those guys would love to tear into one!

Aren't they dealers?  They'll have one before you can get one! 

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1391 on: March 01, 2019, 01:48:34 AM »
Aren't they dealers?  They'll have one before you can get one!

Do you envisage having the V85 in your fleet Dave?
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1392 on: March 01, 2019, 08:17:14 AM »
Intrested in a review no press bikes yet?

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1393 on: March 01, 2019, 02:35:00 PM »
Do you envisage having the V85 in your fleet Dave?

Yes.  But not on day one.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1394 on: March 01, 2019, 04:22:18 PM »
Here's a great video of the V85 production.  The last half is narrated by The Man, Nello Mariotti, Production Manager for Moto Guzzi. 

Nello gave us a tour of the factory when I made my trip back in 2014.  He was fluent in english and I was able to get him aside for an extended talk about a future competitively-power dual sport bike.  He told me then that something was in the works but things took a long time to happen around there.  I think the V85 is what he had in mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjud2-k4xXE



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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1395 on: March 01, 2019, 06:26:33 PM »
very cool thanks for the share
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1396 on: March 01, 2019, 07:50:51 PM »
I've spent this morning poring over the service manual and parts diagrams/lists. Still not seeing anything magical.

It's even more obvious than with the V9 that a 4V version is in the pipes though. Either that or there are deliberate redundancies in the top end castings which would make precisely zero sense.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1397 on: March 01, 2019, 08:22:39 PM »
I've spent this morning poring over the service manual and parts diagrams/lists. Still not seeing anything magical.

It's even more obvious than with the V9 that a 4V version is in the pipes though. Either that or there are deliberate redundancies in the top end castings which would make precisely zero sense.

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Which would continue the trend of a ‘Ducati 1986-1988’ redux...  i.e making the small engine into the main feature that spans the whole range, with significant bottom end parts commonality, while ending production of the formerly range leading (but more expensive) big block engine.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1398 on: March 01, 2019, 09:53:13 PM »
Oh I think that the big block will be killed soon enough. E5 makes it very, very hard to be compliant.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1399 on: March 03, 2019, 05:23:38 PM »
Just before the weekend the first shops have them gotten delivered in Europe. Maybe next week I see if I can try one.

There are a number of accessories available. Not only the alu case set but a plastic set too.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1400 on: March 03, 2019, 08:12:04 PM »
Just before the weekend the first shops have them gotten delivered in Europe. Maybe next week I see if I can try one.

There are a number of accessories available. Not only the alu case set but a plastic set too.
Ohlins rear, 3 comfort seats in low, normal, high height. Centerstand, Muffler. Engine guards. LED foglights.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1401 on: March 04, 2019, 12:22:07 AM »
That'll make it easy to change the tyres Pete.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1402 on: March 04, 2019, 12:34:36 AM »
That'll make it easy to change the tyres Pete.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1403 on: March 04, 2019, 03:55:32 PM »
Here are some more pictures of the V85 in real life.

https://www.jestpic.com/V85TT/
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1404 on: March 04, 2019, 06:00:54 PM »
Interesting that they should call the rocker carrier a 'Cam tower' and there are no signs that a central plug is going to be used in the near future, no siree!


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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1405 on: March 04, 2019, 09:24:42 PM »
Here are some more pictures of the V85 in real life.

https://www.jestpic.com/V85TT/

The 14th picture (or 5th picture down in center column), behind the V85, there is a silver cafe style bike red valve covers.

What is that?!

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1406 on: March 05, 2019, 12:41:05 AM »
Interesting that they should call the rocker carrier a 'Cam tower' and there are no signs that a central plug is going to be used in the near future, no siree!


I know there'll be a reason Pete, but why does the lack of central plug and therefore 4V heads, play such a significant part in the desireability of the package in your opinion ?
If the bike is used off road as much a it's design brief suggests it should, is the lack of extra performance that I see 8valves provides, going to impact it's sales ?
I've seen your words suggesting that future incarnations of this donk will struggle to meet emission laws and still produce acceptable levels of power to slug it out against it's competitors unless it moves into 8V technology, as in 4V vs 8V in the big blocks.
Am I reading you anywhere near correctly ?
I am interested to know why you are less than enamoured, although I've already paid up..

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1407 on: March 05, 2019, 03:11:38 AM »
The 14th picture (or 5th picture down in center column), behind the V85, there is a silver cafe style bike red valve covers.

What is that?!

I'm unsure which particular photo you're talking about.  The 5th row centre or 14th photos show no bikes at all in the background. Of those pictures that do have a couple of slightly 'unusual' companions in the background, one seems to be an Aprilia of some sort.  Sorry don't know which one it is.  They all look the same to me.  This is from an RSV1000R owner!  The other odd companion (from the Czech republic) seems to be one of those interminable V75 variants with what appears to be a 'wingless' Stucchi-type bikini.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1408 on: March 05, 2019, 03:45:36 AM »
I know there'll be a reason Pete, but why does the lack of central plug and therefore 4V heads, play such a significant part in the desireability of the package in your opinion ?
If the bike is used off road as much a it's design brief suggests it should, is the lack of extra performance that I see 8valves provides, going to impact it's sales ?
I've seen your words suggesting that future incarnations of this donk will struggle to meet emission laws and still produce acceptable levels of power to slug it out against it's competitors unless it moves into 8V technology, as in 4V vs 8V in the big blocks.
Am I reading you anywhere near correctly ?
I am interested to know why you are less than enamoured, although I've already paid up..

I'll answer that by PM I think.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1409 on: March 05, 2019, 03:42:13 PM »
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