V85 TT Merged Threadfest

[Muzz]

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/moto-guzzi/moto-guzzi-v85tt-2019-review

Pretty good review overall I would say.

[keener]

Looks to be a nice motorcycle .....price is reasonable simple in design and it looks great as compared to its competition .
i think Guzzi is on the right track and for those that see the value in what it is then they should be proud to own one.

[blu guzz]

I am glad to see that MG has played to its strengths instead of trying to be something it is not.  BMW did well for many years by refusing to jump into the power game with the Japanese 4.  If you are going to make 95hp from an 850, it is going to have to rev.  If it revs it puts the power and tourque bands into higher ranges.  All that means is that you really have to work the bike to get its best performance.  I really liked this reviewer's descriptions of what real world riding might be like on this bike.  It reminds me of how my old R100RS felt when it was on the move.  That bike had an ease of motion about it if you had it between 4th and 5th gear territory and running between 50 and 90mph.  Of course, the brakes were crap and the gearbox clunky.  The power band of the V85 sounds pretty similar, just with much more go power.  Like that old BMW, the maximum power was less than its rivals of the time, but within its envelope, it was a real pleasure. Based on the review, I would say this new one just might be.
At age 60 now, I don't want to have to ring the bike out to get brisk performance.  I hope there are many others who are looking for the same thing.

[steven c]

 The positive reviews keep pouring in!
https://www.visordown.com/reviews/first-ride/moto-guzzi-v85-tt-2019-review

[pauldaytona]

So the dealer in town had a Demo V85 so took it with me an hour.
It feels so light, coming from my stelvio. Sound at startup is good, deep not to loud. When acceleration there is a nice hum from the air intake. Sitting is fine, with my 190 I felt good. Gearbox is from V9, nothing wrong with it, precise, no noises. The clutch is light to use.
Accelerating on the highway is good. It's not made for doing long stretches 100MPH. With the low flyschreen you won't like that for long.
The steering is good in corners, long corners are easy. I suppose easy is the main characteristic of the bike. Overtaking on 2 lane roads is simple, there is enough power to do it in short time. Turning around on a small road showed the steering angle to be large. (sorry for my not knowing English so good, meaning the handlebar car be turned a lot) 
Suspension is not to soft, but takes a lot. I would opt for the offered öhlins. Injection does it's job, no complaints here.

Back home on the Stelvio, it has more power/torque, can I do without it? But the V85 positives are welcome too.

[bad Chad]

Wow the video reviewer at Visor Down “loved it”.    And he said he had never ridden a Guzzi before!   What 's happening?

[Tusayan]

Lack of cornering clearance sounds like an issue, but would probably be solvable with a slightly longer shock and a bit more fork spring preload.  That's the most (actually only) concerning thing I've heard so far.  It's not like you're going to install little short road racing footpegs on this bike, and the center stand (which would be mandatory for me) is likely to drag too.

[LowRyter]

good review Paul

[bad Chad]

But we all need to remember, Pete says it's a turd, so we need to keep that in mind, less we get carried away. 

[T4halo]

This might be a winner.

[twowheeladdict]

The positive reviews keep pouring in!
https://www.visordown.com/reviews/first-ride/moto-guzzi-v85-tt-2019-review

watched the video with my subwoofer on and man that exhaust sure sounds nice!

[Keith McGoff]

Here is a new blog style ride report in English (and yet another who likes the bike)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuNqCxKSBh4&fbclid=IwAR0bT5wbBj380xtwUUat1t51ABnaR1nd-wHuEoa4AB8AKkJ7IVvw3fwFc5M

[pebra]

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/moto-guzzi/moto-guzzi-v85tt-2019-review

Positive review, although I'm surprised about the clearance comments both from this and another reviewer.

And, it came With an advertising slogan:
"you’ll be surprised how nice it can be to enjoy riding something well-balanced, practical, fast enough to entertain, slow enough to chill, and beautiful enough to turn heads at a hundred yards."

[Huzo]

But we all need to remember, Pete says it's a turd, so we need to keep that in mind, less we get carried away. 

Too late for me.
Doesn’t matter though, I’ve been putting up with shit most of my life.
Also remember, he called his Stelvio a “turd” when he got it, and love has blossomed there in abundance..

[hauto]

Cool on all the glowing reviews. You know who else believes in the V85-Moto Guzzi does. They have been marketing this launch very well right out of the gate. Unlike the V9" Tony the press is hanging around outside,take a V9 for a test ride and let them get some spy shots"And now the V9 is being deeply discounted and if they follow through with a V85 street version,soon to be forgotton about.

[Tomas0365]

Positive review, although I'm surprised about the clearance comments both from this and another reviewer.

And, it came With an advertising slogan:
"you’ll be surprised how nice it can be to enjoy riding something well-balanced, practical, fast enough to entertain, slow enough to chill, and beautiful enough to turn heads at a hundred yards."

Looking at some of the photos I think the chassis is fooling the riders.  I don't think they realise how much lean they have on. 

[Huzo]

Here is a new blog style ride report in English (and yet another who likes the bike)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuNqCxKSBh4&fbclid=IwAR0bT5wbBj380xtwUUat1t51ABnaR1nd-wHuEoa4AB8AKkJ7IVvw3fwFc5M

A 23 litre tank and 400 k range..
A fraction thirsty fair to say.
We’ll see.
Also I see that they’ve found a solution to the dirty clutch fluid problem..
Don’t have any !

[JohninVT]

A 23 litre tank and 400 k range..
A fraction thirsty fair to say.
We’ll see.
Also I see that they’ve found a solution to the dirty clutch fluid problem..
Don’t have any !

Not really.  ADV bikes are tall, have bulbous bodywork, hand guards, big saddlebags and this means horrible aerodynamics.  45mpg and a 250 mile range is very good.  This is especially good considering press bikes get flogged during testing.   

[twowheeladdict]

Not really.  ADV bikes are tall, have bulbous bodywork, hand guards, big saddlebags and this means horrible aerodynamics.  45mpg and a 250 mile range is very good.  This is especially good considering press bikes get flogged during testing.   

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Some reviewers are talking a safe 450 Km/tank.  Maybe not the way you ride Huzo?

One French vlogger was riding his press V85 like a 600cc 4 cyl. supersport bike:  point & squirt through the gears, hard brake & squirt again.  I left a subtle (English & French) suggestion/comment on his video that he might enjoy the bike a bit more if he didn't ride it like it was stolen: some 'sympathie mechanique', if you please.  Less haste, more speed.  My 'words of wisdom' didn't seem to go down very well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvokvluqxRQ

Whereas this Italian dude DOES have the deftness & subtlety of control to ride fast & smooth.  He also manages to have something useful & interesting to say about the bike.  I wish I could ride that well!  Great bike, great rider, great roads.  My favourite test to date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo7HWQuSCxY

[JohninVT]

Some reviewers are talking a safe 450 Km/tank.  Maybe not the way you ride Huzo?

One French vlogger was riding his press V85 like a 600cc 4 cyl. supersport bike:  point & squirt through the gears, hard brake & squirt again.  I left a subtle (English & French) suggestion/comment on his video that he might enjoy the bike a bit more if he didn't ride it like it was stolen: some 'sympathie mechanique', if you please.  Less haste, more speed.  My 'words of wisdom' didn't seem to go down very well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvokvluqxRQ

Whereas this Italian dude DOES have the deftness & subtlety of control to ride fast & smooth.  He also manages to have something useful & interesting to say about the bike.  I wish I could ride that well!  Great bike, great rider, great roads.  My favourite test to date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo7HWQuSCxY

Wow.  No wonder they chose Sardinia.  What incredible roads!

[twowheeladdict]

Some reviewers are talking a safe 450 Km/tank.  Maybe not the way you ride Huzo?

One French vlogger was riding his press V85 like a 600cc 4 cyl. supersport bike:  point & squirt through the gears, hard brake & squirt again.  I left a subtle (English & French) suggestion/comment on his video that he might enjoy the bike a bit more if he didn't ride it like it was stolen: some 'sympathie mechanique', if you please.  Less haste, more speed.  My 'words of wisdom' didn't seem to go down very well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvokvluqxRQ

Whereas this Italian dude DOES have the deftness & subtlety of control to ride fast & smooth.  He also manages to have something useful & interesting to say about the bike.  I wish I could ride that well!  Great bike, great rider, great roads.  My favourite test to date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo7HWQuSCxY

Someone disabled the comments on the first video.  Those must be tighter corners than the video makes them look like based on the speeds I was able to see periodically showing on the speedometer. 

[kingoffleece]

Looks great.  Fun ride, enough power, comfortable.  What's not to like?  Only tubed wheels, I'd say.
Looks like a great all rounder.

[Tusayan]

Can anybody confirm that the V85TT has a normal electrical system and not a BMW style Canbus setup?  I'm quite interested in the bike and could just about tolerate ABS, throttle by wire, riding modes etc but if it were to have Canbus it would put me over the edge.

The single throttle body does make me smile.

[rocker59]

  if it were to have Canbus it would put me over the edge.
 

all the new bikes have at least some amount of CANBUS.   Don't be surprised when you learn V85TT does, too.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if it doesn't..

[pete roper]

If it follows the protocols used in the Cali 1400, which I imagine it will, it will run canbus between several of the major components, ECU, dashboard, demand sensor, ABS etc. but not a really complex 'Full bike' system like say BMW.

Pete

[steven c]

 And another review
https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/2020-moto-guzzi-v85-tt-first-ride-motorcycle-review?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=boosted-posts|tpfn&utm_content=bike-review-article&utm_term=2020-moto-guzzi-v85-tt-first-ride-motorcycle-review-031919-|tpfn&fbclid=IwAR3xRm6SuXbFHyHekNZ0Mp8TsbAEgdWiLUJhyTlNEOJFTs06p9cMZtFKUwc

[Tusayan]

all the new bikes have at least some amount of CANBUS.   Don't be surprised when you learn V85TT does, too.

One of the attractions of Japanese bikes is their more practical approach in this regard - the V-Strom has a basic field serviceable electrical system in a similar lightweight, low cost bike.  Good engineering for the application, not inward looking BMW/Bosch 'engineering'.

Do the other small block Guzzis have CANBUS?   The Cali 1400 is a failing product.  You'd hope Piaggio would have learned based on experience here as in other areas where they copied BMW and failed in the marketplace. 

[Kiwi Dave]

Canbus merely allows data for different functions to be carried down the same pair of wires.  It represents a huge saving in the amount of individual wires on the bike, reducing the complexity.

I don't agree the Cali 1400 is a failing product.  Failing in what way?  I own two and having nothing but praise for them.