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Electricity 101
« on: December 03, 2017, 07:28:12 AM »
Aside from WildGuzzi (and many other forums), I also subscribe to GoldwingDocs' newsletter. The administrator for this forum is very knowledgeable and his site provides a Reference Information page with some helpful advice, some of which pertains to motorcycles in general, not just the Goldwing. There is a 5-part series on electricity, in particular, that some members on this site may find useful.

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http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=19&sid=cdb0d505b4bdee2fa1452f2a175b357f
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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2017, 09:04:42 AM »
Thanks for posting that. I read the first part and think if I read the rest of them it "may" help take some of my fear of electrical troubleshooting away. Maybe.  :grin:
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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2017, 09:16:57 AM »
For this group it will need more detail on vacuum tubes.









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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2017, 01:18:12 PM »
For this group it will nee more detail on vacuum tubes.

I'm positive that's funny, but some members might feel negative about your comment.

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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2017, 01:38:44 PM »
Could you please keep it short?

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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2017, 01:43:20 PM »
I'm positive that's funny, but some members might feel negative about your comment.

No, we're all still pretty much mesmerized by a Van De Graaf generator!

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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2017, 01:53:06 PM »
Which leads to this question .... has anybody ever put one on their bike ? It would make a great sissy bar, although strapping cargo to it would not work.
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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2017, 01:58:20 PM »
Which leads to this question .... has anybody ever put one on their bike ? It would make a great sissy bar, although strapping cargo to it would not work.

Say, that is a good idea! The belt could run in the area inside the sissy bar's loop! You should get on this right away.

Wayne, do you know how many volts could be generated in the available room?

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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2017, 02:17:54 PM »
I'm positive that's funny, but some members might feel negative about your comment.

You haven't been here long enough.  :shocked: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2017, 02:28:52 PM »
Excellent info! Thanks! I always need a refresher on how to use a multimeter, and these instructions were very easy to understand. the part on the "shunt" tester where you pull a fuse to check a circuit, and hook up the shunt, was something new to me!
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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2017, 03:55:37 PM »
Just an addition to the post ,"when you're working with electricity don't let the smoke out because after that it won't work".
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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2017, 09:40:13 AM »
I'm positive that's funny, but some members might feel negative about your comment.

Yea, they might get their suspenders in a knot.
Scientist have discovered that people will believe anything, if you first say "Scientists have discovered...."

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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2017, 09:42:30 AM »
Just an addition to the post ,"when you're working with electricity don't let the smoke out because after that it won't work".

It can be replaced.



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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2017, 08:33:18 PM »
I wish I had some Lucas Smoke to go next to my can of AMF Harley Oil in the garage. 

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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2017, 08:53:41 PM »
I read through several of these, they aren't very good and unfortunately the comments that come afterward are ill informed,
Perhaps I was a little hasty in dissing these articles, they are better written than I could do. Read them by all means but take the comments that follow with a grain of salt. Don't worry about which way the electrons are going, convention says Positive to Negative but just remember you need a complete circuit from the Positive terminal out through the load and back to battery Negative.

Part 1 Voltage and Current, this is the usual approach comparing current flow to water flow but in electricity the current has to get back to the source water can just spill on the ground.

Part 2: Ohm's Law and Fuses, this is good stuff but again ignore the chatter at the end.
Note: there is a lot of un-fused wiring in your Guzzi, I don't like that either.

Part 3: Using Multimeters  :thumb:

Part 4: Circuit Diagrams Not much to add to this, the diagrams do look daunting but they are really a whole bunch of fairly simple circuits e.g. if the horn is not going start at the horn and trace the line all the way back to the battery.

Part 5: Soldering Techniques I haven't watched this yet
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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2017, 04:06:48 AM »
For the Tontis Roy helped me provide a pretty basic guide if anybody is interested or wants to know about the circuits

No doubt it will now come under fire

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/guzzitech.dk/gb_en_complex-technical_charging-around-the-circuit.htm

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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2017, 08:43:59 PM »
Perhaps I was a little hasty in dissing these articles, they are better written than I could do.

Trying to explain how electricity works in the space of a few pages can be a daunting task indeed.

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Re: Electricity 101
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2017, 03:26:16 PM »
Good stuff, I had to explain current to an Amish guy one time. I was a challenge
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