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No, not everybody wants a V7 with V9 - engine. It makes no sense. The engine is marginal stronger, but because of its stronger end drive also heavier.
I had to go check wet weight figures on the MG USA website. The V9 is listed at 438lbs with all fluids but no fuel; add 24lbs for the 4 gallons of gas and you'll be at 462lbs wet. The V7III is listed at 460lbs with 90% fuel, so pretty much dead on with full tanks.
I am a recovering marketing person. Guzzi like just about everybody else who wants to crack the American market feels to do so they must compete in cruisers, witness some of the stuff BMW and Ducati have kicked out in the last few years. The V9 is a bridge bike, between the more overt cruisers of the 1400's and the more traditional roadsters of the V7/sporting heritage lines. There is a piece in Rider Mag. right now which compares the Triumph Bobber, the Indian Scout, and the V9 in which they basically say the V9 is the most standardish of the group. I think that may be its problem, it's not quite cruiserish for that tribe but not quite roadster enough for tradionalist. A shame really because it's a really nice bike.
Quite like the forwarding position even if shins get a hot warning on occasion.
I very quickly learned to ride the V7 III with shinguards.
Heck. You could even get a V9 with V7 styling from he-who-must-not-be-named. image album hosting
Now that looks good ergo wise! Who is "he-who-must-not-be-named" by the way?
That's weird, never needed anything like that on my V7. Hmmm
Yes please.Who is HWMNBN.How can I break a rule if I don't know what it is?
I think it has to do with my 31.5 inseams. With my feet flat on the ground, the pegs touch my shins and the slightest movement causes damage. Backing into a parking spot turned them a lovely shade of magenta that took a couple of weeks to fade. After my second ride, I dug through my kid's old soccer stuff and found some tiny undersock protectors. Problem solved. I have tried without them to see if it was a learning curve thing, and I still came up bruised. I've since upgraded to larger, velcro oversock style guards, which I forget I'm wearing once our destination is reached. I even wear the guards under my tall boots, as they are padded, not armored. This is a pic and quote from Moto International's site. "To better accommodate shorter riders, we have compiled a custom kit of components that lower seat height approximately 2". The kit consists of a lower, narrower seat with gel insert, shorter rear shocks, repositioned front forks, and different hand levers better accommodating a shorter reach. The woman in the pictures is 5'2" and has a 30" inseam. She is flat-footed on both feet wearing boots."She is standing over the bike, not sitting. In a seated position, the only choice is near shin to peg contact.
:clock:What would be your opinion of someone who grafted a 1400 donk into a standard Griso frame ?Would that fit into the same bracket of pointless lunacy of which you speak ???
*shrugs* 32" inseam but V7 I has slightly different ergos. I neither bang my shins on pegs ever or warm them with the jugs.I'll have to try sitting on a III this coming year.
He's been named (Todd) repeatedly in this thread, no?
I don�t speak of pointless lunacy. I only say it makes no sense. That is because the difference between the engines is marginal. And it would be an inpolite way to express an opinion.That said putting a 1400 into a Griso would be an interesting experiment. Putting a cruiser engine into a roadster. Even when it is a (relatively) high revving engine for a cruiser.
Kev, I know this is a US board, but your reference to the word "Jugs" while referring to a picture of a lady on a motorcycle had me in stitches. Thanks for the laugh, I nearly spat my cornflakes across my screen. [emoji23]
Dunno Kev, but there's clearly a meeting I've missed somewhere.It'd be good to get the guts on it though.
Ha ha, the term is used here as well, but also for other things, like the cylinders and heads of a motorcycle, so I didn't think twice. I guess personally I use the term for the latter about 9 or 10 times out of 10 times lol.Are you asking?Todd from Guzzitech and a number of the members of this board don't see eye to eye. The blood is especially bad it seems between him and Roper/Beetle.I'll leave it there.
As per that engine, the V9 does feel considerably more torquey and have more roll-on power for sure than my �15 Stone, but I never felt that bike was underpowered. My demo ride on the new V7III felt closer in power and feel to the V9 engine than the demo felt to my previous �15 Stone IMHO. The Roamer has the smaller tank but does it really matter?