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Offline swooshdave

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Stunning LeMans Custom
« on: December 15, 2017, 11:17:14 AM »
http://www.bikeexif.com/kaffeemaschine-moto-guzzi-le-mans-cafe-racer



I know there is a plethora of Guzzi customs but this one it pretty clean. You can tell a great bike because it looks good from far away and close up.



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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2017, 11:18:46 AM »
I don't think removing the rear fender from a motorcycle makes it better looking, YMMV.

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2017, 11:26:52 AM »
I like the paint.
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2017, 11:59:28 AM »
i have been paying to every kaffeemascine guzzi build that is published. they do an incredible job. they are peerless in their attention to detail and craft. this one, due to its paint job, will really polarize people on this list but no one can argue with their professionalism. if i had a lotto win i would contract with them in a heartbeat for a re-envisioned T3.
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2017, 12:04:06 PM »
I don't think removing the rear fender from a motorcycle makes it better looking, YMMV.


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The stock one is simply the BEST looking............ .....
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2017, 12:21:56 PM »
Really stunning but agree needs a shorty rear fender at least

While I'm at it I think the headlamp is a little small and looks lost in the fairing

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2017, 12:46:57 PM »
After re-looking at the photos, I'd have to agree with a short rear fender painted to match.   :thumb:
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2017, 12:54:10 PM »
The theme of the bike was a race bike for the street. You typically don't see many rear fenders on race bikes.
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2017, 12:58:33 PM »
Looks pretty bad ass to me :thumb:
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2017, 01:04:07 PM »
The theme of the bike was a race bike for the street. You typically don't see many rear fenders on race bikes.

Okay but would have to be BOTT races.
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2017, 01:18:02 PM »

     Beautiful workmanship and a fine piece of art except the aluminum plate bolted to the top tree for the tach, looks to be an afterthought. But hey that's just me :grin:

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2017, 03:29:13 PM »
Well done, but I don`t understand why the rear on all these have a bobbed tail like a dog look.

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2017, 05:00:56 PM »
     Beautiful workmanship and a fine piece of art except the aluminum plate bolted to the top tree for the tach, looks to be an afterthought. But hey that's just me :grin:

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2017, 07:44:09 PM »
Not sure why the Le Mans claim, feasibly could’ve been a 4 or 5 once but the only bits that give that away are not special anyway.
Aestheticly , not only tacho mount not even covering holes in yoke from bike before but can anyone use meccano brackets for a fairing mount ?
Hole in handlebar left where starter switch was located?
Tarted up very cheap build for rich blind man to pay lots for. Only money or care I can see is in paint.
Loads of better Guzzis ridden daily, this won’t ever wear it’s tyres out.
Love to be proven wrong but............

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2017, 08:01:52 PM »
I'm not one of those 'original' nazis, who puts down anything not stock, but I do agree that the originals are pretty close to perfect. Well, there are things that can be improved like the seat, and other odds and ends. I'm  not a fan of the 'blacked out' look; barely like black exhaust. For me, there's way too much black on that bike. As was already mentioned, it would look better with a larger headlight. I'm also not into the cafe fashion statement of no battery covers or anything there what-so-ever. I also tend to like the looks of a rear fender and when it's missing, the bike looks unbalanced like one of those chesty dogs with narrow hips, skinny legs and a bobbed tail. All front end, nothing in back. Ugh

I love the look of a racy street bike, but most of the cafe stuff does nothing for me.

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2017, 10:12:54 PM »
that bike is just....

nothing....

you cant ride it daily, it doesnt look good aesthetically, nor is it fast or comfortable...

I don't get it


YMMV

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2017, 11:50:35 PM »
It's okay.
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2017, 08:51:22 AM »
From my totally untrained eye, it looks like some important things are missing. Like I said, untrained eye.
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2017, 11:09:43 AM »
Well, at least they didn't put exhaust header wrap on it. I'm sure whoever buys it will. Actually, they'll take it their local shop to have it installed.

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2017, 11:21:08 AM »
You guys would be so fun to hang out with. Funnier than a barrels of 🐒’s
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2017, 01:23:12 PM »
Well, at least they didn't put exhaust header wrap on it. I'm sure whoever buys it will. Actually, they'll take it their local shop to have it installed.

Heh don't knock exhaust wrap, I had to use it on one of my bikes to cover some blemishes, it's got it uses ocassioanlly. I know it's far from ideal, but sometimes it's Ok and covers up some hideous blemsishes......... ..........Each to their own I guess.

I'd post a picture but I'd get stick I've posted the picture of the bike so many times.


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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2017, 03:51:34 PM »
Heh don't knock exhaust wrap, I had to use it on one of my bikes to cover some blemishes, it's got it uses ocassioanlly. I know it's far from ideal, but sometimes it's Ok and covers up some hideous blemsishes......... ..........Each to their own I guess.

I'd post a picture but I'd get stick I've posted the picture of the bike so many times.

Yep... each to their own. Exhaust wrap is good for causing hideous blemishes too.

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2017, 04:06:50 PM »
Workmanship is operating theatre standard, it's starting to smell like a BMW.
Styling is ugly as a hat full or arseholes, the bodywork is unbalanced.
The Germans cannot build lovely looking vehicles unless they're on 4 wheels...
They should go and visit Old Jock or the '06 Breva custom guy.
Forget abaarrt it !!

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2017, 05:11:41 PM »
Other than the size of the headlight and the clock, I think it is a pretty nice bike. I’d prefer to have Moto Guzzi on the tank instead of that logo but it looks like a nice build.

Would I like to travel cross country on this bike? No, neither would I like to take the same trip on my Daytona.
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2017, 06:37:53 PM »
Other than the size of the headlight and the clock, I think it is a pretty nice bike. I�d prefer to have Moto Guzzi on the tank instead of that logo but it looks like a nice build.

Would I like to travel cross country on this bike? No, neither would I like to take the same trip on my Daytona.
I'd take the risk on your Daytona.
I'd stop every 60 miles just to look at the bastard.
Beautiful...

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2017, 06:41:45 PM »
I'd take the risk on your Daytona.
I'd stop every 60 miles just to look at the bastard.
Beautiful...


Better to stop every 100 miles, as that is about when it starts to show an empty tank.
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2017, 06:54:03 PM »
At least this one has some get up and go to match the show.
A lot of these customs are stock small valve motors with lawnmower cams and 30mm carbs.
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2017, 07:06:20 PM »
At least this one has some get up and go to match the show.
A lot of these customs are stock small valve motors with lawnmower cams and 30mm carbs.

They could have started with any round fin motor. Manfred Hecht said he could get higher flow when starting with a small valve, small port than a big valve. To match that same flow with a big valve he would have add metal to get the ideal port shape.
For all we know there are no actual LeMans parts.
Whats with the 7200 rpm redline? Better valve springs are good for at least 8k. Been there many times with no damage.

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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2017, 07:38:53 PM »
Article states that is a lemans 1000 engine.
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Re: Stunning LeMans Custom
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2017, 07:44:41 PM »
They could have started with any round fin motor. Manfred Hecht said he could get higher flow when starting with a small valve, small port than a big valve. To match that same flow with a big valve he would have add metal to get the ideal port shape.
For all we know there are no actual LeMans parts.
Whats with the 7200 rpm redline? Better valve springs are good for at least 8k. Been there many times with no damage.

Pete
Actualy you can�t easily put square barrels on round fin cases, it was a complete mk. 4 lm engine he started with, that and wheels/discs. Read the blurb, used up stuff lying around. Either the mk4 got nice wheels and a different drive train or more likely was a wreck. No one would have bought those wheels so he had to use em or chuck em.
cheap glass tank and seat, all easy
But 97bhp ? journo a touch gullible methinks, as Pete says easier to get revs and hp from mid size valves,  but it could all be true, real wolf in tacky clothing, someone may even see it go, built to ride, apparently, not sell.

 

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