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Not sure I'd use Walmart and Target as the paragons of business practices.
as of right now... I have a 6 hour drive to the nearest [Guzzi] dealer. That's not exactly gonna sell bikes.
And, how far is it to the nearest Ferrari or Maserati dealer?
The main reason to be in business is to make money. Simple logic. Make no money.....no business.
We have 2 of each within about 20 miles of each other. We also have Bentley, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini, Alfa Romeo, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Audi, Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Land Rover, and the list goes on.
Are you honestly comparing Guzzi to Ferrari and Maserati?
Are you toecutter?
I would argue that your stance makes zero sense, considering how hard Guzzi is marketing to the current crop of new riders... through social media. The want to sell to the Triumph crowd, they want to sell to the Ducati crowd, else, they wouldn't be on the same showroom floors. They wouldn't be showing up at the same motorcycle shows. I don't see Ferrari or Maserati, which, by the way are inarguably, high-end, LUXURY brands, that sell simply through their own legacy (otherwise known as "word of mouth"), resorting to selling to Gen Y and Millennials through Instagram, or putting said generations in their advertising. I have yet to see an ad, featuring hip 20-somethings, gleefully piloting their new Maserati , to park in front of the local pub.Face it, Piaggio is trying to crack into a market that far outstretches the niche market, small batch, exotic Italian brands. They're reaching the market for sure... but they're dropping the ball on supporting that market. Those Gen Y and Millennials that are about to drop the scratch on a new bike... they like that Guzzi. Hell, an average night's ride for me will prove that, they love the bikes. They would BUY the bikes... but dealer and service support just aren't there. So that $8000 -$10,000 they scrimped and saved for... is better spent on a Sportster, or a Bonnie, or any of a dozen similar bikes that just make more sense.And finally, you go buy a Ferrari, or a Maserati... and tell me how the customer suppoort is, compared to Piaggio.
Nope, just observing that darkstar1269, myself and a few others on this forum live in an area where those brands thrive. Sorry to have overstepped.
It is sad. Most bikes these days will require some form of warranty work during the first couple years and if you need that done and do not have anywhere to go, then you are stuck footing the bill and doing it yourself.
So you live in a thriving metro. Good for you. So, put it into perspective for us. You have dealers for everything just around the corner. So, how far is your nearest Guzzi dealer?
Interesting.Fwiw, I could have used a warranty on my Jackal, but buying it slightly used (under 1k miles) it didn't come with one and I didn't have the option.I had a warranty on my Breva and would have liked to use it to get it to run without pinging, but alas no one could do that. That is until I spent $500 for a Guzzitech reflash. So the warranty was useless.I had a warranty on my V7, but I never really needed it. Well I would have used it to cure the cold idle stumble, but it wasn't something that dealers could fix either. An by the time I realized my regulator was overcharging it was out of warranty.So my warranty on my Guzzis has always been useless.I know I used the warranty on my 93 and 96 Harleys a couple of times.I don't recall ever using it on the 2004 or 2005 883s.And on the 2007 I only used it right after break in when I pointed out they'd actually assembled a motorcycle without intake manifold bolts. I did later bring it in for a silly recall. But other than that, no warranty work.And I've not used it in the first year in the FLHP.So I dunno... Jury is out if "MOST" will need it.But I understand wanting to have the option.
I agree it is likely not most, but even in your case you are close to 50 percent. I have not used warranties even at that rate but like you said it is nice to have that piece of mind just in case.
Sorry to have overstepped.
Hey, no problem. I was just trying to understand the relevance of your reply, noting the abundance of dealerships in Phoenix, when I was addressing a Cannuckian in The Great White North.
My point was that if Piaggio can't maintain a dealer/service provider where one should flourish there's little hope for the more remote enthusiasts let alone potential new owners. I'm a weirdo as I purchased a V7 III knowing that I was paddling against a swift current but the bike tugged at my heartstrings so thoroughly I couldn't resist.
My feeling is simple. If you can't work on them yourself (do the basic stuff,) then a Guzzi shouldn't be your ride of choice. If it appears to be a crap shoot as to whether you'll have a dealer or not in a year or two, then maybe another brand is the right choice. This is sad!Bob
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