Need Help on Fuel Senders (Daytona & 1100 Sport)

[Old Jock]

I need a new fuel level sender for the Daytona RS and these appear to be now manufactured from unobtainium, this side of the pond (UK).

I've identified a site in Holland that might be able to help but won't know until mid next week, minimum.

So part number for the Daytona & Sporti's level sender is 01103001. Mike Harper has them but I'm trying to get one ASAP and if I'm forced to go via US it will probably take 2 weeks minimum (much as I would like to purchase from Mike as he is super helpful and went out of his way for me in the past).

So here is the geeky question that only a dealer will probably be able to answer, I can locate a sensor for a 750 Nevada, 31103082 and from pictures it looks identical to the Daytona/Sport but it's probably a different height.

What I'm trying to ascertain what are the differences (diameter & height) between these 2.

I'd love to get these dimensions of both, or if anybody has a Nevada transmitter that's lying around that they can dimension that would give me a flying start as I can probably get dimensions of the one from the Daytona, although there is not so much left of it after getting it out the tank (it was welded into the tank fitting and needed to be ground out)

I know this is a long shot, but you gotta explore all options

John

[guzzisteve]

For all that hassle I would just cap it and use a stick under the seat. Use that lite for a radar detector, means "Get OFF the Gas".

[Kiwi_Roy]

Is it the thermistor type?
If so the earlier Triumph Tigers used the same bare sensor, it's a Panasonic part.
Short silver can with a wire at one end
Panasonic part No is ERTLG12N7
https://www.datasheets.com/datasheet/ertlg12n7-panasonic-14690523.html

[Old Jock]

Roy Yes it is that is very useful information

Thank You for that

John

[Wayne Orwig]

Roy Yes it is that is very useful information

Thank You for that

The question still is, is it a thermistor type?

Does the light slowly start to glow when the fuel is low. Or does the light suddenly flash on and off when the fuel gets low?

 

[Old Jock]

Sorry Wayne

Not succinct enough forgive me.

It is a thermistor type as used in Daytonas and Sportis and a whole lot of others. Light comes on very slowly when it is working.

I had a problem with the 1100's level sender too but removing it from the tank and briefly heating seemed to cure it or kick it back into life

The Daytona's had a broken line between bulb and connector, so new line, earth and plug run. Wiring checked by shorting the plug and got a light so wiring, bulb and earth good.

I went to remove the thermistor but it was welded into the tank fitting and I destroyed it getting it out, had to grind the whole thing out, what a mess, but everything else Ok.

I really don't mind which type I install level or Thermistor as long as I get something that works

John

[pressureangle]

Geez if they made a short one I'd give this one away. My 1100 sport starts glowing at 1/2 tank. It's a useless annoyance.

[dsrdave]

I needed one of the nonexistent senders last year.  Moto international had a newer style replacement in stock.  It fit fine but the elec. Plug required some modifications to work.  I believe the locking feature of the connector body was lost.

[jknight611]

Not saying mine is right, but on my Sport the light blinks maddening anytime the tank is completely full.  It will eventually go on without blinking.......been disconnected for about 8-10 years an many miles!

[blackcat]

Geez if they made a short one I'd give this one away. My 1100 sport starts glowing at 1/2 tank. It's a useless annoyance.

Same with mine on the Daytona and it is annoying.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Same with mine on the Daytona and it is annoying.

I would think that if a guy was clever, he *could* shorten it. The sensor just sits on the end of a plastic tube with wires running inside it. I'd think that you could "carefully and thinking about how to do it" shorten the tube without letting the magic smoke out.

[Wayne Orwig]

Geez if they made a short one I'd give this one away. My 1100 sport starts glowing at 1/2 tank. It's a useless annoyance.

My EV was about like that. When the light would come on, you had another 70 miles or so to go. I would ignore it. I ran out of gas a few times ignoring
I modified it so now it comes on at 30 or 40 miles left. Much better.

[StuCorpe]

Wayne, how did you modify it?  Make it shorter? Change mounting?

[Wayne Orwig]

Wayne, how did you modify it?  Make it shorter? Change mounting?

This is a 2004 EV, with the internal fuel pump. The sensor is mounted on that fuel pump/fuel filter plate. It was sort of as simple as bending it.
On a tank with the sensor screwed in from the outside and vertical, it would be a challenge.