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Oh brother. I’m checking out of this thread. Guess I’m taking the bait here as I can’t stand it. It would be enough if folks just blasted the V9 for styling or ergos since those seem about the most valid points in the thread though styling is entirely subjective and pegs can be moved. No, it does not underperform in comparison to other bikes in its class, especially not the Triumph. The V9 actually has more torque, more horsepower, and a flatter curve than the Street Twin. No, the Triumph isn’t finished better with its top notch Kayaba forks and Nissin brakes. No, the small tank does not limit your touring range unless 180-200 miles per tank minimum is your baseline, Mr. Suspenders. And if that’s the case, then I guess you can likely stick what, 85 percent of the motorcycle market in your range deal breaker category so smear the V9 if you want, but smear the vast majority of the motorcycle market with it. No, the V9 is not somehow “less authentic” than other Guzzis. Less authentic how? Less Harleyish than the 1400? Please. And the Stelvio. Definitely authentic. Guzzi wasn’t trying to copy the GS model or steal sales away from BMW at all. And the Griso, took nothing from the trellis framed Monster. Especially not that big, exposed silver frame bar up there on top. No sir. I love the CARC bikes too, got one in the garage now, have had many others, but they are woefully deficient in their so called classes if you’re talking about performance - and that’s what folks here in this thread seem to keep harping upon. The Stelvio, the Norge, and yes even the manly Griso all pale in numbers when compared bikes in their classes. And yet, here you guys are saying they are badasses or perfect examples of what Guzzi should be doing. Gimme a break. What they are is bigger, louder, and more visceral than a V7 or a V9. If that somehow qualifies them as badasses or more “authentically” Guzzi then I guess you got a point. So tell me the V9 is not your cup of tea stylistically or tell me you need 200 miles per tank minimum. But everything else, pleeeeeeessssee. Are you kidding me.
I just saw a brand new V9 at the dealership. And it looked pretty decent to me in person. I sat on it and it felt really comfortable. And it looked pretty good from behind the bars. If it had more power I could see owning it. It was brand spanking new, so they were not offering a test drive. I guess they knew I was more interested in the Griso.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
That's the thing about this, and maybe other boards. So many say, I really like xyz Guzzi, if only it had...More power or a better seat, or more leg room, or a bigger tank, or smaller wheels, or dual exhaust or ABS, or a better dealer network, or if it only came it red, more usable bags, or tube free tires, and on and on and on...I have become cynical of much I read here, when it comes to new bike opinions. Some folks make some good points, but others are obviously never going to buy a new bike, regardless of what gets put out by Guzzi. Well that's the internet, old fat guys, siting in their underwear yelling, "Get of my yard!"
Parking ? Towards or against curb?Makes tipping the jug an issue.Left side to pour?
I can't disagree at all. I would hate trying to market to this crowd. In the end, it's just all talk, no action. One service manager of a dealer near me said there's nothing like Guzzista. A weird bunch. "Some" of those here do nothing to dispel that notion. Regardless, I still enjoy this board.
Could a contributing factor be that motorcycle sales in general are declining? Apparently younger folks just aren't interested.
The V85 motor will likely end up in a V7-styled bike -- hopefully
Most of these kids believe they will never own a home, pay off their student loans, or retire.... a brand new motorcycle isn't exactly in the cards.
I keep hearing say this but between my dozens of millenial & generation Y employees, my son's huge friend circle, my fiance's work crew.... I interact with tons of them day-to-day. I would say 'young people' have tons of interest in motorcycles (and scooters), probably moreso than cars... the problem is that they can't afford a new one. With the trend running toward bobbers, scramblers, and cafe racers... These kids want an old bike that looks the part and won't break the bank.Most of these kids believe they will never own a home, pay off their student loans, or retire.... a brand new motorcycle isn't exactly in the cards.
And I predict: when the V85 is here, people will start writing: "I would buy it, if it had 100 hp..."
So having reviewed this long thread, no one has posed the question: "What is the future of the V9?" Tweek it, Revise, remodel, revamp, or drop it? There is little sense in building bikes that aren't selling on a good day at 90% of msrp.
