Black and Red Eldorado 1400

[rocker59]

I didn't see an Eldorado on the Seacoast site, but there were 2 Touring's. 13,490 for the black one seems like a great price! Do they have tubeless tires? Crazy or not, I would consider trading my new 2019 H-D Lowrider for one Did I say that?

All the Cal14s have tubeless wheels/tires.

[twowheeladdict]

I didn't see an Eldorado on the Seacoast site, but there were 2 Touring's. 13,490 for the black one seems like a great price! Do they have tubeless tires? Crazy or not, I would consider trading my new 2019 H-D Lowrider for one Did I say that?

In another thread it was discussed that they were blowing out Eldorados.  If you don't see them on their site, they may be all gone.

https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99521.0

[Zoom Zoom]

John Henry and John in PA, asking a huge favor. If this is not big hassle can you provide more details (pictures would be great) about mods you did to install Touring hard-bags on your Eldorados? Looks like I will have to tackle the installation by myself and not sure I will be able to handle this task. Hate to spend $4k and end up with nothing. Yesterday went to MG dealer and was told that if I want hard bags I have to buy California Touring :(

Thank you very much!

You need the brackets and associated hardware for a Custom, and of course the bags themselves. Lots of little bags of individual bolts/washers/etc. There are ribber bumpers that you put into holes on either side of the mounting bolts that will attach the bags. I left the top rear rubber bumper out since it will be just under the fender and will bulge out the fender. Otherwise, the brackets bolt up without issue. On the brackets, you install the J nuts on the brackets alonf with the rubber snubbers with the noted exception above. As for bag mounting, there are 4 mounting points. 3 on the sides and one down through the bottom at the rear of the bag. The one going through the bottom stays right where it goes while the side bolts will need about 3/4 of an inch spaced out. There is enough flex in the bags that this is not a big deal. I made a trip to my local hardware store for some longer bolts, some flat (fender) washers, and the proper size inside diameter collar. (Those things you can slip onto a shaft and has an allen set screw out the side of it.) I ended up with a collar and 2 flat washers on each of the three bolts that go through the side if the bags. When I went to the hardware store, I bought a couple different lengths of bolts simply to avoid the need for another trip. The collars I mentioned are just used as a spacer and not used to lock it onto the bolt so I removed the set screw and discarded that. It's a little fiddly to mount the bags but not horrible. Just start everything loose and once all bolts, washers, and collars are in place, tighten it all down.

John Henry

[j.r.r.]

You need the brackets and associated hardware for a Custom, and of course the bags themselves. Lots of little bags of individual bolts/washers/etc. There are ribber bumpers that you put into holes on either side of the mounting bolts that will attach the bags. I left the top rear rubber bumper out since it will be just under the fender and will bulge out the fender. Otherwise, the brackets bolt up without issue. On the brackets, you install the J nuts on the brackets alonf with the rubber snubbers with the noted exception above. As for bag mounting, there are 4 mounting points. 3 on the sides and one down through the bottom at the rear of the bag. The one going through the bottom stays right where it goes while the side bolts will need about 3/4 of an inch spaced out. There is enough flex in the bags that this is not a big deal. I made a trip to my local hardware store for some longer bolts, some flat (fender) washers, and the proper size inside diameter collar. (Those things you can slip onto a shaft and has an allen set screw out the side of it.) I ended up with a collar and 2 flat washers on each of the three bolts that go through the side if the bags. When I went to the hardware store, I bought a couple different lengths of bolts simply to avoid the need for another trip. The collars I mentioned are just used as a spacer and not used to lock it onto the bolt so I removed the set screw and discarded that. It's a little fiddly to mount the bags but not horrible. Just start everything loose and once all bolts, washers, and collars are in place, tighten it all down.

John Henry

Thank you John, this will be huge help when I get to the point of installing bags. At the moment it is hard for me to visual the installation process without having all needed pieces. John In PA offered to manufacture all needed spacers and provide instructional help, so I think I'm in good shape just need to order bags, mounting hardware and of cause bring the bike home :) Still waiting for the dealer to provide me with their options but I know that only acceptable option is what you and John In PA did. Again, thank you very much!

[Zoom Zoom]

Then you are in good shape on the spacers. John worked up a set for me too. Next time I remove the bags for something, I'll put them into service.

As you're aware, regardless of what your dealer says, John and I are living proof that it can be done. It is sad that Guzzi was not willing to set up a dedicated setup for the Eldo, but I guess that's how it goes. I don't expect they ever will. OTOH, Eldo 1400's with factory hard bags will be pretty exclusive as time marches on.

Now, if you decide to install the rear rack and trunk, THAT is a project! Panniers are pretty easy. As sturdy as the rear rack for the Eldo is, I don't think I could conceive having trouble carrying anything that fits in the trunk weight wise.

John Henry

[kingoffleece]

I've seen John's bike with the installation.  Looks perfect.

[Gootsz]

I know I'm late to the party. but you can get the bags and mounts from AF1 racing for around $1200.

I would check there to see about other accessories well.

Micky

[j.r.r.]

Then you are in good shape on the spacers. John worked up a set for me too. Next time I remove the bags for something, I'll put them into service.

As you're aware, regardless of what your dealer says, John and I are living proof that it can be done. It is sad that Guzzi was not willing to set up a dedicated setup for the Eldo, but I guess that's how it goes. I don't expect they ever will. OTOH, Eldo 1400's with factory hard bags will be pretty exclusive as time marches on.

Now, if you decide to install the rear rack and trunk, THAT is a project! Panniers are pretty easy. As sturdy as the rear rack for the Eldo is, I don't think I could conceive having trouble carrying anything that fits in the trunk weight wise.

John Henry

I actually make my mind when I saw pictures of your and John bikes, the only question is if dealer will do installation or I will have to tackle this on my own (still waiting for dealer call). At this point I'm not planning top-case, I want to see if I will be able to pack my things in side bags for 1 - 2 weeks trips. Another issue is money, top-case is not in the budget, at least not this year.

[j.r.r.]

I know I'm late to the party. but you can get the bags and mounts from AF1 racing for around $1200.

I would check there to see about other accessories well.

Micky

There are number of options available but none is as appealing as hard-cases from Touring.

[Jerryd]

I didn't see an Eldorado on the Seacoast site, but there were 2 Touring's. 13,490 for the black one seems like a great price! Do they have tubeless tires? Crazy or not, I would consider trading my new 2019 H-D Lowrider for one Did I say that?

Darn, I thought I might get someones attention about a trade

[LowRyter]

I know I'm late to the party. but you can get the bags and mounts from AF1 racing for around $1200.

I would check there to see about other accessories well.

Micky

You might consider cost of paint matching.

[Ncdan]

As far as the luggage issue goes. One is limited to the amount of things that will fit into even a larger top case but the size of a bag attached to to a rack is limitless and a large trash bag is totally waterproof.

[oilhed]

There is always the optional Guzzi touring hard bags covered with leather - $$$$

[Zoom Zoom]

You might consider cost of paint matching.

Paint marching?? You saw my bike in Cedar Vale last Spring. No paint matching required.

ZZ

[Buckturgidson]

I've got approaching 6K miles on my 2016 Eldorado.  Corbin saddle, Guzzi shield with winglets and a Laminar Lip, Hepco-Becker tail rack with Givi universal mounting plate for a Givi Maxia topcase, Guzzi hard bags custom fitted to the Eldo frame (really just fabricating some spacers, longer hardware, and a bit of cold blacksmithing on the spreader bracket) Mistral pipes with "quiet version" db killers tuned to my liking, and a Dimsport Rabidbike EVO piggyback FI computer to clean up leanness.  I'm very happy with handling, power, fuel economy, wind management, and comfort.  Hoping to put many more miles on this machine in days, months, and years to come.

Wow that is one beautiful bike.

[John in PA]

Now, if you decide to install the rear rack and trunk, THAT is a project! Panniers are pretty easy. As sturdy as the rear rack for the Eldo is, I don't think I could conceive having trouble carrying anything that fits in the trunk weight wise.

John Henry

As John said, the Guzzi Eldo rear rack is a bugger. But, if you delete the Eldo passenger pillion/grab rail combo, you can put on one of the Cal Touring saddles and bolt on the Hepco Becker tail rack (only 3 bolts)(**version WITHOUT backrest!) and the H-B or GIVI universal mounting plate you can use one of their topcases. That's the way mine is set up. 

[j.r.r.]

As John said, the Guzzi Eldo rear rack is a bugger. But, if you delete the Eldo passenger pillion/grab rail combo, you can put on one of the Cal Touring saddles and bolt on the Hepco Becker tail rack (only 3 bolts)(**version WITHOUT backrest!) and the H-B or GIVI universal mounting plate you can use one of their topcases. That's the way mine is set up.

At this point I don't think about rear rack and top-case, mainly for couple reasons. One, not big fun of top-cases on motorcycles but I know they are very practical. I had one on my 2009 CalVin because the side cases on CalVin are very narrow and not much can be loaded if planning a week or so trips. Second, I already overrun my budget and I don't finance my bikes, if I cannot fully pay off the bike I simply don't buy it. The hard-cases and mounting kit (plus handle bar) cost me over $2.6K (CAD) and it wasn't pleasant conversation when my wife saw the CC statement. But regardless what I said, please don't be surprised when in 6 months time you will see my post asking for help with installation of one :)

[Ncdan]

I totally agree as I had a CalVin however I differ on the top case. A whole lot more stuff can be put in a water proof bag and strapped to a rack on the rear than in any top case out there and when not needed you don't have to deal with it.

[kingoffleece]

Horses for courses.
I know several professional over the road motorcycle instructors.  Work rain or shine.  Keep essentials in a top box.  Can remove and replace items in a downpour with very little drama.  Right tool for the job.  Jobs differ.

[j.r.r.]

Today, I decided to pick my bike from the dealer despite the fact that top case and fog lights are still not install. Didn't have much time (tried to utilized my lunch hours) so just rode 15 km home. My first impression is very good, Eldorado seams like easier bike to ride than Audace despite the weight which is probably 100 lbs heavier.

I like to thanks ZoomZoom and John in PA for advice, help, and installation instructions.

Few pictures I took today at the dealer before riding the bike home:




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