Author Topic: New Harleys - the Moco trying to compete (Read 30743 times)

bad Chad · « **Reply #60 on:** July 30, 2018, 11:07:17 PM »

Why are you guys so happy about HD finally trying to save their collective ass from self imposed decent into irrelevance? If they had any sense they would have been here a decade ago.

Ha, some dude in comments section of motorcycledaily, referring to the adv bike said, "I'm not interested in buying the Pontiac Aztek of motorcycles. "

zedXmick · « **Reply #61 on:** July 30, 2018, 11:38:26 PM »

They are going to sell a lot of these. Saving my $$$ for one,great job HD!!

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #62 on:** July 31, 2018, 06:25:24 AM »

Quote from: wavedog on July 30, 2018, 10:24:49 AM

That top photo must be the new Harley Dirt Glide.

It will look good parked next to my Road Glide!

steven c · « **Reply #63 on:** July 31, 2018, 07:58:08 AM »

Now the video......
https://youtu.be/j2XglhtZTbA

Perazzimx14 · « **Reply #64 on:** July 31, 2018, 07:58:48 AM »

Quote from: Kev m on July 30, 2018, 07:51:31 PM

Why are you straw manning this and deliberately being obtuse. The articles published today and common sense would suggest these are related to the other Revolution motors. And YOU suggested they with be 250# too heavy which is baseless since the current Revolution Street Rod is only 518# wet. And that is already hundreds of pounds later than you are assuming.

It's one thing to speculate, but at least base the speculation on something logical and related.

"Wonder if the Harley Pan America will get within 250lbs of either?" The "either" if you read my post is the current BMW 1200GSA or KTM 1290 Adventure two of the larger adventure bikes currently on the market.

Ah yes I can see how you misconstrue this as speculative and straw manning.

nick949 · « **Reply #65 on:** July 31, 2018, 08:14:27 AM »

Arggghhh. Just what we need: a crop of lard arsed, dew ragged, bedazzled ex-cruiser riders, trading in their studded waist-coats for Klim, to come clogging up my dirt roads. Mamma Mia!

Nick

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #66 on:** July 31, 2018, 08:16:53 AM »

Quote from: nick949 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:27 AM

Arggghhh. Just what we need: a crop of lard arsed, dew ragged, bedazzled ex-cruiser riders, trading in their studded waist-coats for Klim, to come clogging up my dirt roads. Mamma Mia!

Nick

Don't worry Nick.. that crowd will be as receptive to the new ones as they were to the Buell.

Sheepdog · « **Reply #67 on:** July 31, 2018, 09:38:38 AM »

I don’t care for them, but then I didn’t care for the original Super Glide, either...

Rough Edge racing · « **Reply #68 on:** July 31, 2018, 10:22:45 AM »

When men were men, 600 pound Harleys were ridden off road...

Shorty · « **Reply #69 on:** July 31, 2018, 11:29:43 AM »

Quote from: steven c on July 31, 2018, 07:58:08 AM

Now the video......
https://youtu.be/j2XglhtZTbA

Minimal knuckledraggers, voice actor sounds human, didn't lower his voice an octave to sound tough....it all started going to hell when they hired Elton John for the Centennial, lol.

Toecutter · « **Reply #70 on:** July 31, 2018, 12:44:38 PM »

Quote from: Sheepdog on July 31, 2018, 09:38:38 AM

I donï¿½t care for them, but then I didnï¿½t care for the original Super Glide, either...

The ONLY thing wrong aesthetically with the original superglide was that goofy boattail fender.

derek533 · « **Reply #71 on:** July 31, 2018, 01:51:28 PM »

Meh, Harley killed off their one bike that I would actually own. The 2005-2006 Street Rod which was a modified VRod with mid controls and a Porsche derived engine. Didn't sell all that well so Harley killed it off. In fact, it's probably the one bike (besides a mint Pacific Coast) I would give up my Guzzi for. Too bad, the owners of these bikes know what they have and ask a premium for them considering they are now 12 years old at least.

swooshdave · « **Reply #72 on:** July 31, 2018, 02:34:14 PM »

Quote from: Two Checks on July 30, 2018, 12:55:43 PM

They gotta do something with all those VROD engines....

I don't think that's the V-ROD engine, it's the water cooled 750 they introduced a few years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley-Davidson_Street

Kev m · « **Reply #73 on:** July 31, 2018, 02:45:20 PM »

Quote from: swooshdave on July 31, 2018, 02:34:14 PM

I don't think that's the V-ROD engine, it's the water cooled 750 they introduced a few years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley-Davidson_Street

The Vrod and Street series motors are all called Revolution models by Harley. They share some basic design architecture (60° V, OHC, Unitized, Water-Cooled), but no actual parts.

They're related similarly as how the Big Twin EVO is related to the Sportster EVO give or take.

rocker59 · « **Reply #74 on:** July 31, 2018, 02:53:53 PM »

Quote from: Toecutter on July 31, 2018, 12:44:38 PM

The ONLY thing wrong aesthetically with the original superglide was that goofy boattail fender.

"Boat Tail", but yeah...

Toecutter · « **Reply #75 on:** July 31, 2018, 03:35:49 PM »

Quote from: rocker59 on July 31, 2018, 02:53:53 PM

"Boat Tail", but yeah...

Bet you're fun at parties.

tazio · « **Reply #76 on:** July 31, 2018, 03:53:23 PM »

this,

reminds me of this,

And that's not a bad thing..

"The MT-01 is a motorcycle made by Yamaha from 2005 to 2012, available in Australia, New Zealand, Europe, India, Japan and parts of North America. But Yamaha Motor Corp. USA declined to import it to the United States, citing a small market for this style of bike"

Rough Edge racing · « **Reply #77 on:** July 31, 2018, 04:04:48 PM »

The bikes are too dense, too chunky, too organic...similar to the Ducati Diavel.....A motorcycle shouldn't look a like the interior of a WW2 submarine...

hidn45 · « **Reply #78 on:** July 31, 2018, 04:55:11 PM »

Can someone please explain to me what is the purpose of the "streetfighter" tail pointing up at the heavens? It doesn't seem to relate to fender clearance or suspension travel....

I'll admit I'm a Luddite through & through, but I don't get the attraction.

Style-wise, I'm not taken with any of them, but may they sell millions of them to others....

bad Chad · « **Reply #79 on:** July 31, 2018, 05:42:12 PM »

Quote from: zedXmick on July 30, 2018, 11:38:26 PM

They are going to sell a lot of these. Saving my $$$ for one,great job HD!!

If it said Kawasaki on the badge I suspect folks would be a lot less excited.
It speaks to the brands power, folks no nothing about the bike, other than it doesn't look like the usual from HD. Yet they are ready to sell their first born to get one! Crazy!

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #80 on:** July 31, 2018, 06:18:47 PM »

Quote from: nick949 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:27 AM

Arggghhh. Just what we need: a crop of lard arsed, dew ragged, bedazzled ex-cruiser riders, trading in their studded waist-coats for Klim, to come clogging up my dirt roads. Mamma Mia!

Nick

Many fellow road glide owners also ride R1200GS BMWs. We won't be wearing glow in the dark aerostitch either.

Murray · « **Reply #81 on:** July 31, 2018, 06:43:44 PM »

Quote from: hidn45 on July 31, 2018, 04:55:11 PM

Can someone please explain to me what is the purpose of the "streetfighter" tail pointing up at the heavens? It doesn't seem to relate to fender clearance or suspension travel....

I does relate to suspension travel and mono shock clearance it also shifts the riders weight forward onto the front wheel which helps handing and weight transfer during braking. In similar was the Cafe racer were attempts to replicate and pick up on the style of the race bikes of the time modern bikes are similar, when a dog drags it rear on the ground to scratch its rear end its called scooting and it look stupid. :P

stubbie · « **Reply #82 on:** July 31, 2018, 06:58:39 PM »

I think I read somewhere a few months ago that HD had saturated the world market with cruisers so I guess they need to look elsewhere to start making money.

kingoffleece · « **Reply #83 on:** July 31, 2018, 07:51:08 PM »

Good for them. Too late-too heavy, too this, too that? Looks like design ideas and rough prototypes to me.
I'll be happy to give the MoCo a chance to (finally) evolve.

As for the KTM references, the 4 guys I know that bought the latest and greatest from them won't ever purchase again.
WAY too many issues. They all say the same thing-great bikes-when they run.

Turin · « **Reply #84 on:** July 31, 2018, 08:19:12 PM »

Quote

If it said Kawasaki on the badge I suspect folks would be a lot less excited.
It speaks to the brands power, folks no nothing about the bike, other than it doesn't look like the usual from HD. Yet they are ready to sell their first born to get one! Crazy!

If it said Kawasaki on the badge I'd expect an additional 20 horsepower !

twowings · « **Reply #85 on:** July 31, 2018, 08:52:24 PM »

Those just make me want to drive a car...

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #86 on:** July 31, 2018, 10:07:41 PM »

Quote from: Turin on July 31, 2018, 08:19:12 PM

If it said Kawasaki on the badge I'd expect an additional 20 horsepower !

Supercharged!

AaronH · « **Reply #87 on:** August 01, 2018, 12:19:30 AM »

I like all of those, especially the Pan America. Harley's current stuff is great, too, specifically the Milwaukee Eight-engined motorcycles, but it is nice to see these overhead cam-engined models and Harley going in a few new directions. I go on their demo rides whenever I can, and I definitely want to ride the Pan America and Live Wire when they make it to the demo truck.

molly · « **Reply #88 on:** August 01, 2018, 05:11:36 AM »

Quote from: tazio on July 31, 2018, 03:53:23 PM

this,

reminds me of this,

And that's not a bad thing..

"The MT-01 is a motorcycle made by Yamaha from 2005 to 2012, available in Australia, New Zealand, Europe, India, Japan and parts of North America.

But Yamaha Motor Corp. USA declined to import it to the United States, citing a small market for this style of bike"

The MT-01 was a nice bike but failed to sell. Unless Harley start using light weight modern materials (see KTM on how to do it) their effort will fail too.

grebmrof · « **Reply #89 on:** August 01, 2018, 06:18:37 AM »

Quote from: Guzzistajohn on July 30, 2018, 04:42:35 PM

Happy the motor company is using some imagination for a change. I'm so sick of looking at Harley cruisers and look alike cookie cutter bikes. Why the hell does 1/2 the "biker" population have a need to bolt a set of apes on a bike? But that dirt glide could use a little work for sure.

I said to my wife the other day: "see that bike over there? You know what they call those handlebars?" She said: "monkey bars?" I said: "close, those are ape hangers" We both got a good laugh over that one!
I do not know how anyone rides a motorcycle with bars like that, or for that matter with forward controls, but that is just me. These new Harley's whatever they end up looking like were not targeted towards me, that's for sure. I commend HD for these efforts though...but I think they really have an uphill climb.

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