Author Topic: gtmotocycles GTM01 1400 CC Tonti merged threadfest . (Read 49304 times)

pete roper · « **Reply #150 on:** September 20, 2018, 03:02:58 PM »

It's in the head design. I'm not going to argue about it as it's pointless but just throwing money at something won't miraculously produce power.

bad Chad · « **Reply #151 on:** September 20, 2018, 03:56:28 PM »

Quote from: oldbike54 on September 19, 2018, 08:56:34 PM

Yeah , except an f1 engine makes twice the specific output of a big old NASCAR V8 .

Dusty

Indeed, in the mid 90s Indycars using 2.65L turbocharged motors were putting out far more than 850hp , numbers were kept secret but many claimed they were in excess of 1000hp. Fast enough for lap speeds averaging over 240 mph!

TN Mark · « **Reply #152 on:** September 20, 2018, 05:45:53 PM »

Quote from: pete roper on September 20, 2018, 03:02:58 PM

It's in the head design. I'm not going to argue about it as it's pointless but just throwing money at something won't miraculously produce power.

Thank you for that Pete. At least now I have something to look at and compare to the head design of similar motors that can be made to make big numbers. Ive heard from some excellent tuners/engine builders and even some owners that the head design of the Polaris Indian 111 is a limiting factor in that engine making big power as well. It runs flat at much over 3000 rpm. Youre right, with that design throwing too much money at it will have limited success.

Turin · « **Reply #153 on:** September 21, 2018, 12:24:21 AM »

Making exaggerated horsepower claims is the norm when it comes to high dollar custom bikes. It's not nearly as impressive to list all the custom bits, and state the tuning has netted an extra eight horsepower.

I don't blame them, as horsepower numbers don't tell the full story and there are many who obsess over numbers and dyno charts.

Muzz · « **Reply #154 on:** September 21, 2018, 02:24:56 AM »

A late arrival on this thread, but I must say I like the look of the front part of it. Sort of "brutal".

Like a Munch Mammoth or a Jota.

Don't like those "nothing at the rear looks" anyway so that part doesn't spin my wheels.

TimmyTheHog · « **Reply #155 on:** November 30, 2018, 02:39:56 PM »

FWIW there is a write up on CycleWorld regarding to GT Motorcycle & its GTM-01

https://www.cycleworld.com/gt-motocycles-gtm-01-moto-guzzi-custom-is-fast-and-beautiful?con=TrueAnthem&dom=fb&src=SOC&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+New+Content+%28Feed%29&utm_content=5c019d1bfb138b000138ac29&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2BZbeiBbPjbKRbnbYD0XghbQMLu1HQq25TTxjbJj0ZJhsZYubI8PvGqEU

JohninVT · « **Reply #156 on:** November 30, 2018, 03:21:09 PM »

Quote from: TimmyTheHog on November 30, 2018, 02:39:56 PM

FWIW there is a write up on CycleWorld regarding to GT Motorcycle & its GTM-01

https://www.cycleworld.com/gt-motocycles-gtm-01-moto-guzzi-custom-is-fast-and-beautiful?con=TrueAnthem&dom=fb&src=SOC&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+New+Content+%28Feed%29&utm_content=5c019d1bfb138b000138ac29&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2BZbeiBbPjbKRbnbYD0XghbQMLu1HQq25TTxjbJj0ZJhsZYubI8PvGqEU

A puff piece. They didn't weigh it. They didn't dyno it. They performed no instrumented testing. It was written by a friend of Todd's.

bad Chad · « **Reply #157 on:** November 30, 2018, 03:27:20 PM »

I don't have anything to add about the bike, and neither did the article. I really wish old school monthly mags could make it, Cycle World has completely lost its way.

TimmyTheHog · « **Reply #158 on:** November 30, 2018, 03:33:57 PM »

Quote from: JohninVT on November 30, 2018, 03:21:09 PM

It was written by a friend of Todd's.

Ah....didn't know this

jwinwi · « **Reply #159 on:** November 30, 2018, 07:05:21 PM »

I'd spend my hypothetical $45K on an MGS01...

Kristian · « **Reply #160 on:** November 30, 2018, 09:20:26 PM »

I cannot fathom how they fall for this BS. Supercharged? 200 HP from an aircooler? Utter nonsense. Silly bike.

blackcat · « **Reply #161 on:** December 01, 2018, 06:41:12 AM »

Quote from: jwinwi on November 30, 2018, 07:05:21 PM

I'd spend my hypothetical $45K on an MGS01...

Exactly. I wouldn't even think twice.

"Custom cam profiles and ECU tuning add nearly 65 horsepower..." Right.

Tom · « **Reply #162 on:** December 04, 2018, 05:13:26 PM »

For the discriminating Guzzisti.

https://www.cycleworld.com/gt-motocycles-gtm-01-moto-guzzi-custom-is-fast-and-beautiful?CMPID=ene120418

JJ · « **Reply #163 on:** December 04, 2018, 05:41:26 PM »

While this is way cool, and all fine and dandy...

.... if I personally had $45,000-$65,000 of disposable income to splurge on a motorcycle, it would not be this...(just sayin'...)

Tom · « **Reply #164 on:** December 04, 2018, 06:07:36 PM »

I'd round out the collection....ahem. ....the herd.

wirespokes · « **Reply #165 on:** December 04, 2018, 07:48:39 PM »

Forty five grand and it doesn't even have a rear fender? Sorry, I'm not into that style - it's rather ugly.

Muzz · « **Reply #166 on:** December 04, 2018, 07:53:59 PM »

Is it just me or is the riding position as uncomfortable as it looks. His arms are really bent. I prefer to have them a lot straighter. It would also have the rider positioned further back, which I personally think would give it a lot more balanced look.

Having said that, yes, I would accept it if someone ~~stupid~~ philanthropic enough gave me one.

Groover · « **Reply #167 on:** December 04, 2018, 08:01:34 PM »

90k if you want the other half too.

janguzzi · « **Reply #168 on:** December 05, 2018, 06:35:46 AM »

Alternative: https://radicalguzzi.com/radical_guzzis_moto_guzzi_mgr_1200

LowRyter · « **Reply #169 on:** January 02, 2019, 02:59:36 PM »

Finally, a Sport Guzzi. 1400cc, 140 hp, 400 lb, 155 mph

https://gtmotocycles.com/pages/builds

groundhog105 · « **Reply #170 on:** January 02, 2019, 03:51:33 PM »

Lowryter. Be prepared for the poopors, naysayers and people calling bullshit. Personally I have seen the bike and the Dyno sheets. This is not a 1400 that’s in the California and other 1400 models. It’s using ported 1200 heads, high compression pistons, custom cams and exhaust and intake. The whole motor is balanced. I find it pretty amusing that the some of the “experts” here will call bullshit on GuzziTech build but don’t bat an eye in excepting a higher HP and torque claims from a 4 Valve twin of another brand. I don’t get why it is difficult to accept that a mid eighties 2 valve Lemans motor could reliably make 100 HP but a modern Guzzi 1400 4 valve that is modified cannot make 140 HP.
Todd at GuzziTech has put a lot of time and development into the bike and it is a beauty build.

LowRyter · « **Reply #171 on:** January 02, 2019, 04:04:20 PM »

I appreciate some of the info provided GH. I wondered the source of the engine and the mods done to it. I really didn't have any doubts about it since it came from Todd.

Pretty neat it's in a beefed up Tonti frame but I would like to have that engine in my Greenie.

Holy moly!

redrider90 · « **Reply #172 on:** January 02, 2019, 04:12:09 PM »

It's missing it's butt. Where is the back end? Tires especially rear tires do not excite me. The rest of it is stunning. Every time I see a bike with it's back end missing revealing nothing but the tire and its rear drive I shake my head no matter what make or custom make it is. This is art and I think someone forgot to finish the painting by leaving off the rear patina.

pete roper · « **Reply #173 on:** January 02, 2019, 04:13:02 PM »

Quote from: groundhog105 on January 02, 2019, 03:51:33 PM

Lowryter. Be prepared for the poopors, naysayers and people calling bullshit. Personally I have seen the bike and the Dyno sheets. This is not a 1400 that’s in the California and other 1400 models. It’s using ported 1200 heads, high compression pistons, custom cams and exhaust and intake. The whole motor is balanced. I find it pretty amusing that the some of the “experts” here will call bullshit on GuzziTech build but don’t bat an eye in excepting a higher HP and torque claims from a 4 Valve twin of another brand. I don’t get why it is difficult to accept that a mid eighties 2 valve Lemans motor could reliably make 100 HP but a modern Guzzi 1400 4 valve that is modified cannot make 140 HP.
Todd at GuzziTech has put a lot of time and development into the bike and it is a beauty build.

If you don't understand or care about how the 8V works or what limits it the sky is the limit but carry on, it's your money.

Turin · « **Reply #174 on:** January 02, 2019, 04:40:33 PM »

Wheres the beating a dead horse emoji when you need it?

LowRyter · « **Reply #175 on:** January 02, 2019, 05:10:33 PM »

man, I think I should just set my laptop on fire

bigbikerrick · « **Reply #176 on:** January 02, 2019, 05:13:53 PM »

I am in the same camp as Redrider 90... Where is its butt? There are so many ways to design a sexy rear end, why leave that undone? Reminds me of a bobcat.

Rick.

bad Chad · « **Reply #177 on:** January 02, 2019, 05:18:03 PM »

I don’t know how you could have missed it John?

It was a pretty recent thread, it went on for days on end. It was a good one if you like two sides arguing politics! I fell on the nonbeliever side myself, but I’d love to see some independent specs.

bad Chad · « **Reply #178 on:** January 02, 2019, 05:24:05 PM »

A mid 80s, sub 1000cc two valve motor making a reliable 100hp at the wheel???

That sounds like someone’s doing a few to many lines.

Huzo · « **Reply #179 on:** January 02, 2019, 05:32:04 PM »

Does it cost more if I ask for the other half..?

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