Author Topic: gtmotocycles GTM01 1400 CC Tonti merged threadfest . (Read 49490 times)

Mayor_of_BBQ · « **Reply #210 on:** January 05, 2019, 09:04:50 PM »

Quote from: Toecutter on September 11, 2018, 01:31:23 PM

Custom bikes always bring out the armchair builders.

I'd build it this way.

I'd have done this.

I wouldn't have done that.

I'm calling bullshit on X claims.

Why did they build it the way they did? The way I like bikes is the right way.

Not to mention, seems like anything GT on this board is simply gonna get shit on. Hell, he could be doing straight restos, and someone's gonna crap on it.

Here's the thing... not everything is built "for you". Why is the rear end the way it is? Because that's the way people like them today. He's building for a modern market, and the guys that want single purpose, stylish machines will eat that thing up. There are an awful lot of people that want stylish, good looking, go fast machines for nothing more than... oddly enough... looking good and going fast.

As for power? If he's full of it, it'll come out in the wash. If not... anyone here that's calling him on it going to admit they were wrong?

Now, someone's gonna come by, and ironically tell me that my opinion about their opinion isn't a valid opinion, and how I should lighten up, because it's a public forum and that's just how it is.

I dunno. This whole WG vs GT shit rubs me the wrong way, both ways. It all feels so very... high school.

well we dont have a like button but if we did.....

I think it looks cool as hell, I would love to have one.

leafman60 · « **Reply #211 on:** January 06, 2019, 07:41:59 AM »

I've met Todd and spent time with him in Cali. He's a relatively young generation who is personable, nice and loves Guzzi.

I don't agree with everything he does, however.

On the 1400 Custom he is showing, I think it would look much better with a tail end. I've never liked these bob-tailed, exposed rear wheel iteration of bikes.

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bad Chad · « **Reply #212 on:** January 06, 2019, 02:48:48 PM »

In defense of the bike, it’s not meant for any of us. This is a generalization, but the type of person who participates on this forum is not going to buy one, so why would he make them to your style? Even if it had a tail, bag mounts and a Windgamer you’re not going to pluck down the cash it takes to play at this level.

I hope he sells a bunch, it’s good for him and Guzzi too.

rocker59 · « **Reply #213 on:** January 07, 2019, 08:02:08 AM »

Quote from: bad Chad on January 06, 2019, 02:48:48 PM

In defense of the bike, it’s not meant for any of us. This is a generalization, but the type of person who participates on this forum is not going to buy one, so why would he make them to your style? Even if it had a tail, bag mounts and a Windgamer you’re not going to pluck down the cash it takes to play at this level.

I hope he sells a bunch, it’s good for him and Guzzi too.

Dilliw · « **Reply #214 on:** January 07, 2019, 10:14:31 AM »

Quote from: bad Chad on January 06, 2019, 02:48:48 PM

In defense of the bike, it’s not meant for any of us. This is a generalization, but the type of person who participates on this forum is not going to buy one, so why would he make them to your style? Even if it had a tail, bag mounts and a Windgamer you’re not going to pluck down the cash it takes to play at this level.

I hope he sells a bunch, it’s good for him and Guzzi too.

Oh I completely agree. I like Todd's site and wish him well on this and hopefully many other builds. It's clearly not meant for me but he's in the capital of the customs world and there are probably plenty of buyers out there for these bikes.

It's the technical issue of how he's going to get to 140rwhp out of a 1,380cc naturally aspirated, air cooled twin that intrigues me. With the stock 1400 heads I think he can get to 110hp fairly easily, and the guy in Colorado got close to 120hp with that plus cams. Getting another 20% on top of those mods is a tall order. S&S can get HD motors to close to 160hp but that's with 124ci, and there's never a replacement for displacement!

LowRyter · « **Reply #215 on:** January 07, 2019, 09:41:00 PM »

Quote from: Dilliw on January 07, 2019, 10:14:31 AM

Oh I completely agree. I like Todd's site and wish him well on this and hopefully many other builds. It's clearly not meant for me but he's in the capital of the customs world and there are probably plenty of buyers out there for these bikes.

It's the technical issue of how he's going to get to 140rwhp out of a 1,380cc naturally aspirated, air cooled twin that intrigues me. With the stock 1400 heads I think he can get to 110hp fairly easily, and the guy in Colorado got close to 120hp with that plus cams. Getting another 20% on top of those mods is a tall order. S&S can get HD motors to close to 160hp but that's with 124ci, and there's never a replacement for displacement!

There's always RPMs.

And if that ain't enough, boost.

LowRyter · « **Reply #216 on:** March 13, 2019, 08:12:30 PM »

I received an email from Todd Egan, saying the GTM-02 would be at the Hand Built show in Austin during MotoGP weekend.

quote:

Our custom builds have been consuming us, but we managed to spend some time with Miguel Galluzzi at the Piaggio Advanced Design Center in Pasadena, CA and got some fascinating intel on what the future of Guzzi beholds. We’ll fill you in as we go. Our first build, GTM-01 was well received at The One Show in Portland, and we received special recognition on stage from Rev’it Apparel/Rizoma & Nexx Helmets. We are excited to show off the newest of our in-house built trellis GTM-02 Series in Austin, Texas at the Handbuilt Show in April, which will also highlight our “Ride a CARC Guzzi in, and a GTM build out” program. We hope to meet some new faces there.

Bulldog9 · « **Reply #217 on:** March 13, 2019, 09:53:36 PM »

As many have mentioned, the overall style particularly the front of the GTM01 is a work of art. The rear leaves me cold. Not a fan of this trend of @$$less motorcycles. I too think the HP#'s are wildly optimistic, but Todd has clearly said that serious buyers $$deposit) can see the dyno sheet..........

I'm not a huge GT fan and am dissapointed to see his business model and myopic censorship on his site, but you cant argue with his contribution to the overall brand. My $$ is better spent elsewhere, but I wish him luck.

Luap McKeever · « **Reply #218 on:** March 14, 2019, 02:16:01 PM »

Quote from: Bulldog9 on March 13, 2019, 09:53:36 PM

Todd has clearly said that serious buyers $$deposit) can see the dyno sheet..........

Are you kidding me? You have to put down a deposit on something you can't touch, ride or sit on just to see a dyno sheet? Wow. So much for transparency.

If I was creating that bike, I'd showcase the dyno report all over the web. Heck, I'd video it doing the dyno and make sure the camera never cut away. That's the best way to prove you did something and to generate sales.

Good luck with that.

Turin · « **Reply #219 on:** March 15, 2019, 10:45:22 PM »

I can't blame the guy. If my work was being picked apart and bitched about on the internet, I wouldn't share any data either. I can't imagine how many requests/ demands he is getting for dyno sheets.
This thread alone is more than enough reason for Todd to have a get F**'d attitude. Not taking a side, but I can understand it.
A nice sales feature would be a Dyno sheet for each bike at time of delivery ( if it gets to that point. )

JohninVT · « **Reply #220 on:** March 16, 2019, 04:05:02 AM »

Quote from: Turin on March 15, 2019, 10:45:22 PM

I can't blame the guy. If my work was being picked apart and bitched about on the internet, I wouldn't share any data either. I can't imagine how many requests/ demands he is getting for dyno sheets.
This thread alone is more than enough reason for Todd to have a get F**'d attitude. Not taking a side, but I can understand it.
A nice sales feature would be a Dyno sheet for each bike at time of delivery ( if it gets to that point. )

The way to stop criticism is to be transparent.

Tomas0365 · « **Reply #221 on:** March 16, 2019, 05:53:53 AM »

Quote from: Huzo on January 04, 2019, 03:59:54 PM

Damn right.
I have never had a confrontational encounter with one, but when up around Daintree and such in the sub tropics, I have seen them wandering.
They are barrel chested things, with a body like a 44 gallonn drum...!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vqs2ZOOirk

Much is said about our dangerous creatures but most are polite. These things are aggressive. They're sort of the true representation of us after a night on the rum

jrt · « **Reply #222 on:** April 16, 2019, 05:16:44 PM »

Ran across this in some cycle/rider/world/hiphop jam spam in my emails-
https://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/guzzitech-unveils-gtm02?cmpid=ene20190414&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&cid=55633&mid=493948227

Not my particular cup of tea, but it's nice to see a niche market for CARC bike customization.

cliffrod · « **Reply #223 on:** April 16, 2019, 05:27:48 PM »

Once I reached the line about him using "longitudal" Guzzi Vtwin driveline in the teaser, it didn't make me want to click here to read the rest of the article.....

Daniel Kalal · « **Reply #224 on:** April 16, 2019, 05:52:12 PM »

Quote from: cliffrod on April 16, 2019, 05:27:48 PM

Once I reached the line about him using "longitudal" Guzzi Vtwin driveline in the teaser, it didn't make me want to click here to read the rest of the article.....

I clicked on the link, and Todd does spell "longitudinal" correctly.

It's an odd thing. Years ago, the Guzzi V2 engine was routinely called "longitudinal" which follows the established convention of using the crankshaft as the basis. The V8 in a Ford Mustang is Longitudinal, while the V8 in the Guzzi racer was Transverse. The Honda V4 in the ST is Longitudinal while the V4 in all the chain bikes is Transverse. The crank in a Guzzi V2 is Longitudinal, and so, therefore, is the engine.

But somewhere along the line, people referred to the Guzzi engine in relation to a Harley layout, and instead of saying Transverse-Cylinder, they called it Transverse. Even Guzzi in their recent ads uses that term even though they used to call it Longitudinal.

So, I guess we just need to add the words "Crankshaft" or "Cylinder" to whichever term we prefer, and all will be well.

Huzo · « **Reply #225 on:** April 16, 2019, 06:34:35 PM »

If you pay a bit more, will he sell you the back half as well ?

Cam3512 · « **Reply #226 on:** April 16, 2019, 06:36:06 PM »

Quote from: Huzo on April 16, 2019, 06:34:35 PM

If you pay a bit more, will he sell you the back half as well ?

How much back half do you need to ride to the Rock Store and park it?

j.r.r. · « **Reply #227 on:** April 16, 2019, 07:41:49 PM »

Quote from: jrt on April 16, 2019, 05:16:44 PM

Ran across this in some cycle/rider/world/hiphop jam spam in my emails-
https://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/guzzitech-unveils-gtm02?cmpid=ene20190414&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&cid=55633&mid=493948227

Not my particular cup of tea, but it's nice to see a niche market for CARC bike customization.

Todd cannot get his fueling kit right, how the hell he would be able to develop and produce entire bike right. Another nonsense produced by him thanks to support from idiots like me. If you have few spare minutes read this:
https://advrider.com/f/threads/moto-guzzi-california-1400.841205/page-32

Cam3512 · « **Reply #228 on:** April 16, 2019, 09:57:29 PM »

When I was trying to dial in my '09 Calvin, I bought some things from Todd - H pipe and Power Commander. The PC was useless, and he refunded me the money. Finally had him reflash the ECU and all was good. Bought the sump spacer for my V7 from him too.
He always did right by me.

stmike · « **Reply #229 on:** April 16, 2019, 10:31:39 PM »

Todd did a really good job of refueling my CalVin as well when I had it. I was always happy with whatever work he did on my bikes. I don't know why there's often such Todd bashing on this site.

Rich A · « **Reply #230 on:** April 16, 2019, 11:11:17 PM »

Todd hand delivered a set of brake rotors to me at an AZ Guzzi rally quite a few years ago. He brought them in his tank bag. He also offered to let me ride his tricked out Jackal. Seems like a good guy to me.

Rich

Turin · « **Reply #231 on:** April 17, 2019, 12:01:26 AM »

Nice frame, and not at all what I thought.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #232 on:** April 17, 2019, 07:06:20 AM »

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Seems like a good guy to me.

Yep. I've known/dealt with Todd for years. He's always treated me like family.

rocker59 · « **Reply #233 on:** April 17, 2019, 08:05:25 AM »

Todd and GuzziTech are friends of WildGuzzi, and the Guzzi community.

Be mindful of the WildGuzzi rules about dealers.

mtiberio · « **Reply #234 on:** April 17, 2019, 09:51:06 AM »

I like Todd, and have had nothing but good dealings with him. I can imagine it isn't easy having a small custom bike shop in California. I also know it takes balls to make anything custom in this world. I was at his shop last month, and he showed me a new FI ECU he was testing which totally trims out a bike based on a few initial inputs. It literally writes the map as you go. You give it a few starting parameters, and the more you run it, the more data it collects and the better your map gets. For someone that feels burned, you may not feel like jumping back in, but it does looks like the solution to fueling for some of his more exotic 1400 builds.

Lesman · « **Reply #235 on:** April 17, 2019, 11:11:41 AM »

I saw the bike at the Handbuilt Show in Austin last Sunday. Nice looking bike. The butt is kinda brief. The bike didn't move me. He is asking a lot for his creation. It's worth it to some one. Guzzi needs him and his bikes. Just like Guzzi needed Dr, John. Todd moves the Guzzi needle forward. Guzzi/Aprilia aren't doing enough for their brand. I hope Todd sells a bunch of them.

Tusayan · « **Reply #236 on:** April 17, 2019, 11:23:02 AM »

Quote from: Lesman on April 17, 2019, 11:11:41 AM

Just like Guzzi needed Dr, John. Todd moves the Guzzi needle forward.

I think that’s a ludicrous comparison, based on both the motorcycles and personalities involved.

JohninVT · « **Reply #237 on:** April 17, 2019, 03:59:00 PM »

Quote from: mtiberio on April 17, 2019, 09:51:06 AM

I like Todd, and have had nothing but good dealings with him. I can imagine it isn't easy having a small custom bike shop in California. I also know it takes balls to make anything custom in this world. I was at his shop last month, and he showed me a new FI ECU he was testing which totally trims out a bike based on a few initial inputs. It literally writes the map as you go. You give it a few starting parameters, and the more you run it, the more data it collects and the better your map gets. For someone that feels burned, you may not feel like jumping back in, but it does looks like the solution to fueling for some of his more exotic 1400 builds.

Didn’t Dynojet come out with Autotune ten years ago?

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #238 on:** April 17, 2019, 04:09:07 PM »

Quote from: JohninVT on April 17, 2019, 03:59:00 PM

Didn’t Dynojet come out with Autotune ten years ago?

Todd was the guy that got Dynojet to support Guzzis.

mtiberio · « **Reply #239 on:** April 17, 2019, 04:16:24 PM »

Quote from: JohninVT on April 17, 2019, 03:59:00 PM

Didn’t Dynojet come out with Autotune ten years ago?

Not even close. the autotune was an add on. Limited in range. What he showed me replaced the ECU entirely.

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