Author Topic: Norge 1200 exhaust valve issues (Read 20049 times)

mrv · « **Reply #90 on:** October 17, 2018, 10:48:01 AM »

I don't understand if it is the pump why it would fail when I did not touch it. I wonder if it just has an air lock since there is oil in the heads.

pete roper · « **Reply #91 on:** October 17, 2018, 01:36:21 PM »

The oil pressure code (08) is memorised. Did you pre fill the new filter before you installed it? If not that will throw the pressure code while it's filling on start up. The air temperature sensor code (06) is still active which probably means you forgot to plug it in again after you had the airbox out. Whip the tank off, reconnect the air temp sensor, clear the error codes and see if they come back.

Pete

mrv · « **Reply #92 on:** October 17, 2018, 02:11:50 PM »

I did fill the filter before installing. Just finished pulling tank and airbox. Pulled oil pressure gauge off and cranked engine to make sure there is pressure and there is. Put a new teminal end on the oil pressure wire other was barely hanging on. Put everything back together verified all connectors were connected, cleared codes and fired it up. Still shows service and then oil can I on after starting, red idiot light on as well.

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Wayne Orwig · « **Reply #93 on:** October 17, 2018, 02:46:47 PM »

Well rats. Did an error come back?

mrv · « **Reply #94 on:** October 17, 2018, 02:48:23 PM »

Error came back

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Wayne Orwig · « **Reply #95 on:** October 17, 2018, 03:14:38 PM »

Quote from: mrv on October 17, 2018, 02:48:23 PM

Error came back

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Both 06 and 08?

mrv · « **Reply #96 on:** October 17, 2018, 04:59:54 PM »

Yes, 06 and 08. I guess I'll drop the F'ing pan again just to see since that is the only thing I did other than replace the cam assy. I have checked and rechecked to make sure the air sensor is plugged in. But the dash shows only the oil can icon and the word service. It does not show any icons for the air sensor.

pete roper · « **Reply #97 on:** October 17, 2018, 10:34:20 PM »

Chuck a new oil pressure sender at it. They are notoriously flakey.

mrv · « **Reply #98 on:** October 17, 2018, 11:55:47 PM »

Is there the switch by chance available from another source other than Guzzi? If not then I guess another week down waiting for shipment.

pete roper · « **Reply #99 on:** October 18, 2018, 12:04:06 AM »

Yup, dunno the part# in the US though. Shout out and someone will know. The thread pitch is the important thing to get right, there were two types. It should be an 'Open in service' switch.

Pete

mrv · « **Reply #100 on:** October 18, 2018, 12:20:35 AM »

I seen some posts on this old tractor that show part numbers for Autozon, Oreilly, Napa but they show for the V700, V7 Special, Ambassador, 850 GT, 850 GT California, Eldorado, and 850 California Police models. Don't know yet if they use the same part number as the Norge or not. Will have to dig a little deeper.

Rebochi · « **Reply #101 on:** October 18, 2018, 12:30:50 AM »

Quote from: mrv on October 17, 2018, 04:59:54 PM

Yes, 06 and 08. I guess I'll drop the F'ing pan again just to see since that is the only thing I did other than replace the cam assy. I have checked and rechecked to make sure the air sensor is plugged in. But the dash shows only the oil can icon and the word service. It does not show any icons for the air sensor.

The oil can icon is a reminder to service the engine. You make that go away by resetting service warning. I would do that before taking anything else apart.

pete roper · « **Reply #102 on:** October 18, 2018, 12:46:52 AM »

Quote from: Rebochi on October 18, 2018, 12:30:50 AM

The oil can icon is a reminder to service the engine. You make that go away by resetting service warning. I would do that before taking anything else apart.

No it isn't. You're talking twaddle.

Rebochi · « **Reply #103 on:** October 18, 2018, 12:57:00 AM »

Quote from: pete roper on October 18, 2018, 12:46:52 AM

No it isn't. You're talking twaddle.
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pete roper · « **Reply #104 on:** October 18, 2018, 01:01:27 AM »

No, the service icon is a spanner, (Wrench.). Sorry, your input is not helpful.

guzzisteve · « **Reply #105 on:** October 18, 2018, 08:58:44 AM »

I have used the older pressure switch and just make up a wire jumper to make it work.
Hey, you should get 2 gskts, the spacer and the pan, just to be safe.

mrv · « **Reply #106 on:** October 18, 2018, 09:03:38 AM »

Damn I'm definitely a pro at removing the tank and airbox now. Just pulled the pressure gauge off it looks as though it has been removed with pliers St one time do someone has messed with it.

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mrv · « **Reply #107 on:** October 18, 2018, 10:29:09 PM »

I ordered a pressure sensor from AF1. Hope it fixes the problem. What other known failure wonders can I look forward to on the Guzzi?

pete roper · « **Reply #108 on:** October 18, 2018, 10:42:13 PM »

Only other 'Must Do's' are greasing the swingarm bearings and shock linkage needle rollers. Neither get the attention they need lavished upon them by the grease-phobic layabouts on the production line.

Pete

mrv · « **Reply #109 on:** October 23, 2018, 11:11:09 PM »

At last my Goose is back up and seems to be good again. Maybe I will be able to ride it for more than a week like I got to do last month when I bought it. How many miles should I ride it before rechecking the valve clearances?

what is aluminum symbol

pete roper · « **Reply #110 on:** October 23, 2018, 11:15:59 PM »

10,000km.

mrv · « **Reply #111 on:** October 24, 2018, 04:44:54 AM »

Thanks Pete, I didn't know if it needed checked sooner after installation of the new tappet assembly or not.

pete roper · « **Reply #112 on:** October 24, 2018, 05:13:14 AM »

It shouldn't. The 8V's and later smallblocks uselaminated steel gaskets that are, effectively, incompressible. There are reasons for that that I can explain if you want to wait a few weeks but I'm about to go to NZ and will be as busy as a dog with three dicks for a while rollerising shitboxes!

Fact is once they are torqued down you just leave the buggers alone! In 6. Whatever K miles do the valve lash, balance the TB's and recalibrate the TPS, then just ride.

The reason why older motors with kingelite gaskets needed re-torquing is beacause the gaskets collapsed as they heat cycled. With the steel laminates this is no nonger an issue.

Pete

Kiwi_Roy · « **Reply #113 on:** October 24, 2018, 07:07:15 AM »

Is there anything unique about the oil pressure sensor on the CARC bikes like an end of line resistor?
Or is it just the usual normally closed switch?

This has been a heroic journey.

guzzisteve · « **Reply #114 on:** October 24, 2018, 09:29:47 AM »

Been the same kind of switch forever, same as your G11, grounded on/off.

usedtobefast · « **Reply #115 on:** October 24, 2018, 11:05:26 AM »

MRV - very impressive how you powered through this and fixed everything!

Hope you have a lot of fun trouble free miles on the Norge now.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #116 on:** October 24, 2018, 11:22:46 AM »

Way to go, MRV..

rocker59 · « **Reply #117 on:** October 24, 2018, 11:37:00 AM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on October 01, 2018, 04:19:13 PM

Are the service records required in the states? I know in some countries, automotive service has to be done by the dealer to keep warranty in effect.. but as far as I know, not here.

magnuson moss warranty act says service work does not have to be done by a dealer.

MGrego · « **Reply #118 on:** October 24, 2018, 11:44:08 AM »

Way to go MRV ! Nice red valve covers !

-- Only thing I didn't hear mentioned that you might consider in the future is updating the fueling Map with Guzzi-Diag to one of Beetle's maps. Most Norge owners on this forum have done that. Also, don't put in too much oil, I think I put in almost 1/2 a liter less than what the manual says because otherwise it gets blown out into the breather and leaks down the tube creating a mess on the CARC.

It's a great bike, enjoy !!

mrv · « **Reply #119 on:** October 24, 2018, 10:56:17 PM »

Thanks for the props for performing my own repair, but it is just a motor and the head/cylinders are the easiest I have worked on. As long as I have torque specs and repair manual then I will tackle any task.

I thought the Red valve covers gave it a nice accent, really liked the way they looked on the MGX 21 and V7 dark Carbon.

I did notice after my test ride I had some oil in the airbox tube, which I did have a bit too much oil in it but have since pulled some back out.

So I guess I will have to purchase a programming tool to update the ecu mapping next! It does have a bit of a stumble off idle.

When it gets too cold for me to tough it out riding any longer I will tackle the swingarm and shock bearings.

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