(NGC) 2019 Triumph Scrambler 1200

[rocker59]

Triumph just stepped up!  Wow!  Guzzistajohn, have you seen this?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaxBQ1yt93A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=Zn362apOR70

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/triumph-claims-new-scrambler-1200-to-be-truly-amazing-off-road

https://www.motorcycle.com/mini-features/2019-triumph-speed-twin-scrambler-1200-leak-dealer-meeting.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfxx1OQQrZc

[Toecutter]

A 1200 scrambler.

I have to question why. Other than "Cuz North America thinks bigger is better, always", I mean. I don't know a single person that would wring that thing for what it can do, not offroadm anyways. Hell, all the dudes I know that ride offroad/dual sport bang along quite happily on 650s or less, and never really even need that much. Planning for the Dakar, perhaps?

[rocker59]

A 1200 scrambler.

 why. 

[kingoffleece]

Of course it's made for bigger is better America.  THAT'S what the American motorcycle press is all about.
A tenth faster in the quarter-oh boy!  81 pounds of torque-MUCH better than last years 79.9.  Yadda yadda yadda.
Of all folks Guzzi riders understand this is complete rubbish.

[rocker59]

This new Triumph looks to be a kick-ass machine, and will fit the niche well with the Ducati Desert Sled and the upcoming Guzzi V85 TT.

I like retro/vintage styling, and to finally get that with modern suspension and brakes is a dream come true.

So many choices out there right now.  2019 is going to be a golden year for motorcycles.

Especially for those who like retro styling and off pavement pretentions.

Gravel roading on a bike with 8-inches of suspension sure is nice...

[Toecutter]

This new Triumph looks to be a kick-ass machine, and will fit the niche well with the Ducati Desert Sled and the upcoming Guzzi V85 TT.

I like retro/vintage styling, and to finally get that with modern suspension and brakes is a dream come true.

So many choices out there right now.  2019 is going to be a golden year for motorcycles.

Especially for those who like retro styling and off pavement pretentions.

Gravel roading on a bike with 8-inches of suspension sure is nice...

it's not the suspension, or the brakes or anything else I question... it's the "why a 1200 "scrambler" ?" I ride gravel every day and if the V7 will get me down road faster than is sensible, and beyond the limit of law... well then?  I know the only answer here is "because it will sell", but I'm posing the question as more of a philosophical thing.

[Rusnak_322]

because most people ride their scramblers almost entirely on pavement. you don't HAVE to use all 1200cc of power off road, but better to have it and not need it on road.
It dosn't look like you are gaining a ton of weight with that 1200 over the 900.

[Toecutter]

because most people ride their scramblers almost entirely on pavement

Which just creates an even more obvious question.

[Gnirwin]

I have a Kawaski Vulcan S that has the 650 Ninja engine in it. I am 65 years old and this is the fastest bike ( 0-60 in 4.1 seconds) I have ever rode. Faster than the "Super Bikes" of my youth. I am on a Kawaski forum where many people  who bought this bike want something much bigger. One guy who regularly posts did sell his and was claiming the reason for doing so was that over 90 miles per hour it was taking longer to go faster  100-110 than it did to get to 80....There are many crazy people riding and buying motorcycles.

[yogidozer]

Wonder how much it weighs?

[Turin]

At least it looks like you can actually ride it across a desert, which is more than you can say for a lot of "scramblers".

[Rusnak_322]

Which just creates an even more obvious question.

because it looks cool.

Most sport bike riders never take their bikes to the track, most ADV riders don't cross the Continental divide on a regular basis, most touring bike owners aren't crossing 2 state lines on every trip.

Most buy a bike style for what they dream of doing, not what is actually the best bike for their needs.

[Guzzistajohn]

I like it. I’d sooner spend my $$ on a triumph than on the V85. I like having a
Dealer nearby if I’m buying something new. Hello Piaggio?? I don’t ride over the great divide regularly or race to Dakar, but I do like the versatility of a dual sport or ADV bike and my 06 tiger has been dependable as a framing hammer. Id take it anywhere (if I didn’t have to work all the time👍)

[rocker59]

  I like having a Dealer nearby if I’m buying something new. 

Is QC Moto your Triumph connection ?

[TimmyTheHog]

Well...

my Local Guzzi dealer is ALSO the Triumph dealer...

Guess I will try to test ride both when they both hit the show floor...

[Guzzistajohn]

Is QC Moto your Triumph connection ?
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Yes! QC does a good job

[greer]

Wonder how much it weighs?

Just a tad over 450lb dry, so it should top off under 500lb, you'd think.

Sarah

[yogidozer]

Just a tad over 450lb dry, so it should top off under 500lb, you'd think.

Sarah

that all?

[Rough Edge racing]

 These were a handful back when with 45 HP and 360 pounds wet when used in the desert...Try riding one at speed in the dirt...

  But as mentioned, most newer bikes of this type are ridden on the street..If you like it. buy it..

       

[Aaron D.]

because it looks cool.

Most sport bike riders never take their bikes to the track, most ADV riders don't cross the Continental divide on a regular basis, most touring bike owners aren't crossing 2 state lines on every trip.

Most buy a bike style for what they dream of doing, not what is actually the best bike for their needs.

Looking cool is filling the most common need.

[lucian]

Half as many horses and a front fender would be great.

[PeteS]

If you think of a bike like this as one you would ride 100 miles on pavement to your favorite forest and spend a couple of days on single track crossing streams and sand then this isn't the bike for you.
On the other hand if you want ride it cross country maybe cruising at 80 mph and have the option to get off the pavement at places like Moki Dugway, Escalante, Moab or the thousands of other gravel roads then this is a better choice than a 300 lb bike with lights.

Pete

[arveno]

Finally a 21 inch wheel in the front .

Kudos for triumph for doing this , smart marketing, racing the Baja will help promoting this kind of bikes . BMW did that before with the GS and we all know they sell a load of bikes....

Hey Piaggio/Aprilia ... you learning anything ?

Ciao !!

[Guzzistajohn]

Half as many horses and a front fender would be great.

If you look at the links mike posted there is a high and low fender model offered.

[JohninVT]

Good Lord...typical negative, old man Wildguzzi responses.

The XE version has fully adjustable Ohlins and Showa USD suspension with almost 10" of travel.  It has tubeless spoked wheels in sizes that make sense off road.  It has ABS and traction control that can be completely turned off.  It has a tank range of over 200 miles.  It has 90hp and 80ft/lbs of torque and a dry weight of 456lbs.  It's absolutely everything you could ask for in a bike that you use to travel long distances on rough gravel but don't want a fairing.

It is a perfect bike to jump on and set the cruise control for the 1400 mile ride to Caniapiscau and then ride the 400 mile Trans Taiga.  It's also perfect for exploring gravel service roads out West or any place else. 

I know it's shocking but not everyone wants to a ride a 40hp V7.  Triumph is running the new Scrambler in the Baja 1000.  Try that with your V7 and get back to us.         

[rocker59]

Good Lord...typical negative, old man Wildguzzi responses.

The XE version has fully adjustable Ohlins and Showa USD suspension with almost 10" of travel.  It has tubeless spoked wheels in sizes that make sense off road.  It has ABS and traction control that can be completely turned off.  It has a tank range of over 200 miles.  It has 90hp and 80ft/lbs of torque and a dry weight of 456lbs.  It's absolutely everything you could ask for in a bike that you use to travel long distances on rough gravel but don't want a fairing.

It is a perfect bike to jump on and set the cruise control for the 1400 mile ride to Caniapiscau and then ride the 400 mile Trans Taiga.  It's also perfect for exploring gravel service roads out West or any place else. 

I know it's shocking but not everyone wants to a ride a 40hp V7.  Triumph is running the new Scrambler in the Baja 1000.  Try that with your V7 and get back to us.         

 

The XC version:




https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2018/10/24/2019-triumph-scrambler-1200-xc-and-1200-xe-first-look-13-fast-facts/


1. Both the 2019 Triumph Scrambler 1200 XC and XE arrive with a retuned 1200cc engine and its iconic 270-degree firing order that was borrowed from the latest generation Bonneville. The Scrambler 1200 is more powerful, and creates 89 at 7400 rpm. This is 12.5 percent more powerful than the Bonneville T120, and 38 percent more powerful than the Street Scrambler. In terms of torque, the Scrambler 1200 is tuned to deliver more torque in the lower and mid-range; it produces 81 ft/lbs at 3950 rpm – 37.5 percent more than the Street Scrambler. Service intervals are now 10,000 miles.

2. Both models arrive with fully-adjustable Ohlins rear suspension – including piggy-back reservoirs – for optimal off-road handling and extended wheel travel. The XC version has 7.9 inches (200mm) of travel, and the XE 9.8 inches (250mm) of travel.

3. The 2019 Scrambler 1200 models arrive with five riding modes – Road, Rain, Off-Road, Sport and Rider – that adjust the throttle response, ABS settings and traction control. The XE version also receives a sixth “Off-Road Pro” mode that turns off ABS and traction control, and uses the off-road throttle map.

4. The XE version features a more advanced Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU) that provides cornering ABS and corner traction control. The IMU takes constant measurements of roll, pitch, yaw, lean angle and acceleration rates, responding with appropriate active safety features.

5. The Scrambler 1200 XC features switchable ABS and each of its three modes are selected manually via the Rider-configurable riding mode. It also features switchable traction control with the five rider modes.

6. The Scrambler 1200s both arrive with a torque assist clutch. This provides a lighter feel to the clutch.

7. The new 2019 Triumph Scrambler 1200s arrive with a full-color TFT instrument gauge that can be fully personalized, including a start-up screen message that mentions the owner’s name.

8. LED lighting is all around for the new Scrambler 1200, including a 5-inch headlight, taillight and turn signals. LED Daytime Running Lights are also standard on both XC and XE models.

9. The control switches on the new Scrambler 1200 are now easier to navigate at night due to LED backlighting.

10. Other highlights of both 2019 Triumph Scrambler 1200 models include:

Keyless Ignition
Cruise Control
USB Charger
Heated Grips (standard on XE; accessory on XC)

11. The 2019 Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE and XC also arrive with a world’s first integrated GoPro control system, which is operated by an Bluetooth accessory. The connection and control is displayed on the TFT instruments, enabling intuitive video and photo operation via the switchgear.

12. In regards to styling, the XE version is further updated with:

Hand guards with aluminum brace
Brembo MCS lever
Silver handlebar finish with black anodized risers and clamp
Gold-colored forks

13. Both Scramblers are available in two different colors; an MSRP has yet to be announced:

[kingoffleece]

...............and there it is.

[Guzzistajohn]

Dang, johnnyvt and rocker need to start a Triumph dealership! I'm sold! 👍 But I already like the triumph machines anyway.

[rocker59]

Dang, johnnyvt and rocker need to start a Triumph dealership! I'm sold! 👍 But I already like the triumph machines anyway.

This thread was for you, John.   

[Guzzistajohn]

This thread was for you, John.   

That's so sweet!