Author Topic: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers  (Read 4040 times)

Offline Luap McKeever

  • Owner, WildGuzzi.com
  • Administrator
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 3785
  • Lead, follow, or get out of the way!
    • Wildgoose Chase Moto Guzzi
  • Location: Mountain, Missouri
The tech and the reviews all seem pretty impressive.  There are times I could for sure use the mic for phone calls, but mostly I love to listen to music.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/domio-pro-a-game-changer-in-helmet-audio-comms?fbclid=IwAR1dFJj99P5jnghno4Wqb0O-MZNp4nrLA4JbTPPFsA7c5DeNEfK_FOwF9a4#/
« Last Edit: November 01, 2018, 07:44:44 AM by Luap McKeever »
Owner, Wildguzzi.com (est. 1996)
2021 V85TT Centenario E5
2001 California Special
2001 California EV
2020 Indian Challenger Limited

Past Guzzi's: 72 Eldo, 73 Eldo, 98 EV, 2000 Quota, 76 T3, 84 V65C, 98 Centauro,  09 Stelvio, 12 Stelvio, 17 MGX21

Offline kingoffleece

  • SplitWeight(tm) seat covers
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 4515
  • Rated 5 STARS Motorcycle Consumer News
  • Location: Valley of the Sun
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2018, 08:30:08 AM »
I'm aware of at least two previous products like this.  The latest one was from, I believe, Germany and while the manufacture reviews were "outstanding" the customer reviews were, to put it polite, not so much.
SplitWeight(tm) seat covers. A King of Fleece LLC product.

Offline Zoom Zoom

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 10517
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2018, 08:46:06 AM »
When I saw this post, I was intrigued. I went looking for their site to find more info, thinking that perhaps the older version might be cheaper. Well, maybe it is, but it is still 200 bucks. It is also shown as sold out so I don't know if that means gone or simply out of stock.

I also read reviews that contained things that made me skeptical. One person said they couldn't get it to work right. Another said the audio quality wasn't that great. Someone said they could not hear music above 45 mph. Yet another said they were unable to get it to connect to their GPS.

In my case, the GPS is where all my travel music resides, so that would be a no go right off the bat.

I too enjoy my music when on the road and have been very happy with the Nolan electronics for some time. When I had my Garmin 550, it was superb. I seldom used it for phone calls, but when I did, they were very clear and the person didn't even know I was on the bike. When it died and I replaced it with a 660, I was never able to get the mic to work and I took it out of the helmet. As for music, I discovered some time ago that I can pretty much double the battery life of the helmet if I use a wired connection to the GPS, which as I mentioned, where I store my music. Using the BT connection, I get a bit over 4 hours out of the helmet battery and eight with a hard wire connection. If I juice the helmet when I stop for fuel and a break, I am assured of music and NAV for the duration of the day. 

Since I don't keep my phone out on the bike, getting that out of my pocket is not worth risking it to change music, where as I can easily do that with the GPS.

I'm not trying to convince you not to try this, but give you some perspective from someone that values listening to my music while droning down the highway.

Personally, I would either want a money back guarantee or try one that someone already has before I shell out 200+ for something I hope works for what I want. It is a great concept if it really delivers, but...

IMHO

John Henry

Offline Luap McKeever

  • Owner, WildGuzzi.com
  • Administrator
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 3785
  • Lead, follow, or get out of the way!
    • Wildgoose Chase Moto Guzzi
  • Location: Mountain, Missouri
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2018, 10:25:14 AM »
When I saw this post, I was intrigued. I went looking for their site to find more info, thinking that perhaps the older version might be cheaper. Well, maybe it is, but it is still 200 bucks. It is also shown as sold out so I don't know if that means gone or simply out of stock.

I also read reviews that contained things that made me skeptical. One person said they couldn't get it to work right. Another said the audio quality wasn't that great. Someone said they could not hear music above 45 mph. Yet another said they were unable to get it to connect to their GPS.

In my case, the GPS is where all my travel music resides, so that would be a no go right off the bat.

I too enjoy my music when on the road and have been very happy with the Nolan electronics for some time. When I had my Garmin 550, it was superb. I seldom used it for phone calls, but when I did, they were very clear and the person didn't even know I was on the bike. When it died and I replaced it with a 660, I was never able to get the mic to work and I took it out of the helmet. As for music, I discovered some time ago that I can pretty much double the battery life of the helmet if I use a wired connection to the GPS, which as I mentioned, where I store my music. Using the BT connection, I get a bit over 4 hours out of the helmet battery and eight with a hard wire connection. If I juice the helmet when I stop for fuel and a break, I am assured of music and NAV for the duration of the day. 

Since I don't keep my phone out on the bike, getting that out of my pocket is not worth risking it to change music, where as I can easily do that with the GPS.

I'm not trying to convince you not to try this, but give you some perspective from someone that values listening to my music while droning down the highway.

Personally, I would either want a money back guarantee or try one that someone already has before I shell out 200+ for something I hope works for what I want. It is a great concept if it really delivers, but...

IMHO

John Henry

I hear ya. I know a guy that's getting one of the pro models for 40% because of this startup deal. He rides like I do so I'll await to hear what he has to say about it before I do anything.
Owner, Wildguzzi.com (est. 1996)
2021 V85TT Centenario E5
2001 California Special
2001 California EV
2020 Indian Challenger Limited

Past Guzzi's: 72 Eldo, 73 Eldo, 98 EV, 2000 Quota, 76 T3, 84 V65C, 98 Centauro,  09 Stelvio, 12 Stelvio, 17 MGX21

Moto

  • Guest
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2018, 12:03:21 PM »
It's bound to function as a speaker that broadcasts the music to the air surrounding the helmet (though not concentrating the sound in a particular direction). Kind of like a ghetto car with giant speakers and amps inside, radiating sound through its body while sitting at a stop light. I wonder what that will be like for those around your helmet.

I also would worry about the effect of the intervening styrofoam on the frequencies that get through to your head. Maybe it's been equalized to offset that.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2018, 12:04:54 PM by Moto »

Offline Testarossa

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 3316
    • Skiing History
  • Location: Paonia, Colorado
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2018, 01:37:28 PM »
I had something like this in the mid-70s -- Obviously it used a wire to the source, a radio or tape player. It was a 2-inch plastic enclosure for a 1.5-inch speaker, and glued to the back of the helmet with a flat foam donut. You had to drill a 1/2 inch hole in the helmet shell. Mono of course.
70 Triumph TR6R, 74 850T, 74 Yamaha TA125, 89 Mille GT, 99 F650, 2013 Yamaha XT250; 1974 MGB
Gone: 59 Piper Comanche 250, 69 Harley/Aermacchi 350SS, 71 Honda CB500/4, 74 Laverda 750 SF2, 91 Suzuki VX800, 50cc two-stroke scoot, 83 XR350R

Offline Kiwi_Roy

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 10231
  • Location: New Westminster British Columbia, Canada
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2018, 01:59:13 PM »
Remember the "Bone Phone", you wore this thing around your neck like a scarf, the sound was transmitted to your ears through your collar bones.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2018, 05:58:00 PM by Kiwi_Roy »
17 V7III Special
76 Convert

Moto Guzzi - making electricians out of riders since 1921

Online bad Chad

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 9958
  • Location: Central Il
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2018, 04:52:16 PM »
My mom got me a bone Phone, I wanted a Walkman.  The bone phone did work pretty well, but it's achillies was that reception was not great, the one I had was only Fm/Am.   I wish I still had it .
2025 V85TT
2016 CSC 250TT

Offline Wayne Orwig

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 14098
    • Hog Mountain weather
  • Location: Hog Mountain
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2018, 07:23:24 PM »
I have a few speaker designs under my belt, so I will toss in my $.02. Which is worth all of that,  and less.

You are going to need to vibrate,  or basically physically move, the helmet. So the device doing the work would need to be heavy. Doesn't look like it is, and you would not want it if it was.
High frequencies mean moving it very very fast. A helmet is to heavy for that. The reason a tweater is small.
So even if you were happy with the low frequency mono only sound, the battery to drive that energy into the helmet wouldn't last long.

Putting little stereo speakers inside the foam on most helmets is pretty easy.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Scientist have discovered that people will believe anything, if you first say "Scientists have discovered...."

elvisboy77

  • Guest
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2018, 09:17:43 PM »
I just have a really nice set of earbuds, bluetooth.  They get music from my phone.  I got a handlebar mounted widget from Aerostich for about $25 that bluetooths to my phone to control volume, skip, backward , pause etc.  I really like that setup.  There is a microphone on the earbuds but I dont like talking while I ride, too distracting so I dont know if it would work or not for talking.

I do have to say, when I stop (ie it is quiet) I can command my phone to stop the music via said microphone.  That is pretty nice.

Offline Guzzistajohn

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • Posts: 12578
  • Location: Missouri Ozarks
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2018, 09:21:56 PM »
I thought I might scrub the bugs of my SHOEI this weekend :boozing:
ебать Россию!   Not anti social-pro solitude

Offline Rick in WNY

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • Posts: 387
  • Location: NY Finger Lakes
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2018, 08:29:58 AM »
Took the plunge a month ago and bought a pair of Cardo Packtalk Slims for the wife and I.

Pricey, but worth it. The Slim is just that, skinny. Most of the hardware, and the battery, mount at the back of the helmet. Inside, you have a choice of mics and speakers. But me, with all the wind noise I get riding a naked bike... I opted to use the fact that Cardo uses standard 3.5mm audio jacks for their outputs. I plugged in a set of earbuds that have the expanding foam on them to seal your ear-holes like good earplugs do. The result? It's nice and quiet in my ears, but I can hear clearly! The plugs are easily replaced if need be.

Now, my wife rides behind a big windscreen, so for her, the 40mm speakers were the better option.

One point to consider... if you're vibrating the helmet to make it into a speaker, then everyone around you will be able to hear your conversation as well. No privacy.

Just my $0.02
Guzzi Owner since May 20, 2017
  2004 California Titanium

Offline rdbandkab

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1521
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2018, 10:02:17 AM »
Was there a mention of how the voice commucication is activated?  Was this system activated by having to click on the module itself? 
With our Sena system, I can put it in "voice activation" mode whereas rider/passenger can initiate a conversation by saying something loudly into the mic.  That mode will time out after a minute or two of no talking.  We can also leave it in "always on" conversation mode.  The only time you push any buttons on the Sena communicator is to answer a call or do something via Bluetooth (GPS, or activate smartphone functions)

Offline not-fishing

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 1232
  • Location: Folsom, Ca
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2018, 01:56:42 PM »
I don't believe music in a City or congested environment is a Good Idea.

I've had a Sena on my helmet for years but rarely turn it on.

When I'm riding the Sierra Mountains I leave it off.

Music while on Highway 50 in the middle of Nevada between gas-stop-towns is a good idea.

The rest of the time I have enough noise in my life.

Mark
Griso 1100
Rosso Corsa Lemans
1/2 a V50 III (with my son)
V65 SP - Finished but the Dyna died so it's non-op'd
'75 850T with sidecar - a new project and adventure

beetle

  • Guest
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2018, 04:31:47 PM »
I might have been interested in trying his, but I have Shark modular helmet, which precludes using it.

Bugger.




Online blackcat

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 9164
  • Location: USA
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2018, 10:13:40 AM »
The Cardo system seems like one of the best ones on the market and I would have purchased a set had I known about them, but ended up buying the N-Com communication system for my Nolan helmet. The major selling point was the brake light attachment to the back of the helmet which is activated under braking via de acceleration.
1968 Norton Fastback
1976 Lemans
1981 CX-100
1993 1000S
1997 Daytona RS
2007 Red Norge

Offline luthier

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 933
  • Location: Northern NSW
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2018, 07:17:17 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLNAeXX09zs

I can't believe that anyone doesn't know about this shit by now.
Not only Schuberth but there are several others who do sound as well as the sunvisor. Notably Shoie Nolan and Bell.
I think the flick down visor is the best thing ever but later the sound will be even more important.

These ones you are showing Luap are not so good with stuff sticking out at the top of the helmet. They might be cheaper but that isn't all that's important here.
I am lusting after one of these units.

beetle

  • Guest
Re: This looks really interesting and I'm tempted...Helmet vibration speakers
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2018, 05:28:00 PM »
Well, I just put my order in for one. Looks like I can mount it at the rear, down low. I also ordered the handlebar remote.


***Wildguzzi Official Logo High Quality 5 Color Window Decals Back In Stock***
Shipping in USA Only. Awesome quality. Back by popular demand. All proceeds go back into the forum.
Best quality vinyl available today. Easy application.
Advertise Here
 


NEW WILDGUZZI PRODUCT - Moto Guzzi Door Mat
Receive donation credit with door mat purchase!
Advertise Here