Author Topic: Gizzards & hearts  (Read 1449 times)

Offline Roebling3

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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2018, 09:57:29 AM »
Dogs, Wolves, etc. by nature, have a higher level of acid in there gut tract. It's what allows a tolerance for all that really bad stuff they get into. The same is true for all wild animals, including birds. I tend to think it's the high mineral count in commercial dog foods that cause urinary tract problems. ie: bladder & kidney stones. 

I've made 'dog soup' for a long time. I add it to the dry food. I've not added the barley; been saving it for people soups.  R3~ 

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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2018, 11:43:15 AM »
Home made pet food also has a downside as its not a balanced diet and you can actually be doing more harm than good. Also is chicken or other meats really safer than premade pet food. Lots of recalls happening all the time on foods we consume every day.

I get a kick out of "my dog love's it". My dog likes to lick her ass, eat cat poop, drink from puddles or toilet, eat dead things she finds, eat dry food. Just like 99.9% of other dogs she doesn't have the most discerning palate and will eat most anything.

I understand if there are special requirements like dental or digestive issues. But if its because you have a finicky eater its most likely self created.
Not a balanced diet? So between the meat, vegetables, and grain, what is lacking?
Also all my dogs get a daily dose of glucosamine.
Have you ever looked into dog food recalls?
And tell me, which is more likely to be honestly reported, human food, or dog food?
Stick to your Pedigree canned food, in fact share some with your dog.

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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2018, 12:45:46 PM »
Not a balanced diet? So between the meat, vegetables, and grain, what is lacking?
Also all my dogs get a daily dose of glucosamine.
Have you ever looked into dog food recalls?
And tell me, which is more likely to be honestly reported, human food, or dog food?
Stick to your Pedigree canned food, in fact share some with your dog.

My pups too special for me to pretend to be an animal nutritionist.

So unless you change/rotate ingredients or add in vitamins and minerals to the base ingredients and round out the nutritional value you feed a very linear diet and not a balanced one. Simply adding chicken vegetables and a grain together does not constitute a well balance diet. Would you eat only boiled chicken, steamed peas and quinoa and truly believe your diet was well balanced? That's what your potentially doing to your dog.   

I give my dog fish oil pills. Since she's never had a heart attack they must be working.





 







 
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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2018, 01:02:34 PM »
My pups too special for me to pretend to be an animal nutritionist.

So unless you change/rotate ingredients or add in vitamins and minerals to the base ingredients and round out the nutritional value you feed a very linear diet and not a balanced one. Simply adding chicken vegetables and a grain together does not constitute a well balance diet. Would you eat only boiled chicken, steamed peas and quinoa and truly believe your diet was well balanced? That's what your potentially doing to your dog.   

I give my dog fish oil pills. Since she's never had a heart attack they must be working.

I use multiple vegetables in my mix. You do realize vegetables, (broccoli, carrots, sweet potatoes, etc.) chicken livers, are a source of vitamins, don't you?
Would you eat your so called healthy canned dog food?

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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2018, 02:36:35 PM »
Back when I was an active hunter the dog and the cats were always on hand for pheasant hearts, livers, and gizzards, cut up and nuked. "A piece for you, a piece for you, a piece for Daddy..."
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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2018, 02:42:05 PM »
Back when I was an active hunter the dog and the cats were always on hand for pheasant hearts, livers, and gizzards, cut up and nuked. "A piece for you, a piece for you, a piece for Daddy..."
Larry

Jack's absolute favorite is venison, raw or cooked.   Don't know if it reminds him of The Call Of The Wild or what, but he'll do or learn anything if the "good boy!" treat is venison.

Then chicken, pork, or a little morsel of cheese.   He won't touch a "dog cookie" or any sort of fruit or veggie snack.

I agree about the "picky palate" of dogs in general though.   How a dog can spend 10 minutes with his head a foot into the rear end of a deer dead 2 days, and then pretend that he "doesn't like the taste of" ... well, anything, I don't know!

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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2018, 03:51:00 PM »
Jack's absolute favorite is venison, raw or cooked.   Don't know if it reminds him of The Call Of The Wild or what, but he'll do or learn anything if the "good boy!" treat is venison.

Then chicken, pork, or a little morsel of cheese.   He won't touch a "dog cookie" or any sort of fruit or veggie snack.

I agree about the "picky palate" of dogs in general though.   How a dog can spend 10 minutes with his head a foot into the rear end of a deer dead 2 days, and then pretend that he "doesn't like the taste of" ... well, anything, I don't know!

Lannis
I used to use venison for making dog food for many years. Lots of good parts to choose from. Heart, liver, tongue. But the game wardens get a bit upset if you take too many a year  :rolleyes:

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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2018, 04:04:21 PM »
Horse meats is available in Canada and lots of other countries. As is Donkey.

Italy too.
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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2018, 06:15:59 PM »
Getting back on track

Here ther are after 25 hours in a 140 degree water bath



Drained and emptied into a bowl. The juice would have made an exceptional gravy



Wheat separated from the chaff



Skewered



A little help from the BGE



Money shot



All I can is these were amazing!

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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2018, 04:49:48 AM »
I use multiple vegetables in my mix. You do realize vegetables, (broccoli, carrots, sweet potatoes, etc.) chicken livers, are a source of vitamins, don't you?
Would you eat your so called healthy canned dog food?


No I would not. But in all fairness I would feed canned food to my dog either.

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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2018, 04:11:11 PM »
Just looking at that is giving me a gout flareup.  :cry:

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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2018, 05:40:20 PM »
Peasant dining during the Middle Ages - - NOTE that OFFAL (gizzards, livers, hearts, and MORE!!) is mentioned!! :wink: :shocked: :huh: :rolleyes:



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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2018, 10:55:09 PM »
Peasant dining during the Middle Ages - - NOTE that OFFAL (gizzards, livers, hearts, and MORE!!) is mentioned!! :wink: :shocked: :huh: :rolleyes:





No different than American BBQ where the lesser cuts/scraps of meats and/or offal were what was left for the slaves.

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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2018, 11:54:38 AM »
Just sayin'. I would not use any organ meat in a gravy or soups for human tastes.
There is always a lingering acidic(?), bitterness.   R3~

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Re: Gizzards & hearts
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2018, 12:11:51 PM »
Just sayin'. I would not use any organ meat in a gravy or soups for human tastes.
There is always a lingering acidic(?), bitterness.   R3~

Giblet gravy :drool:

 

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