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Offline blackcat

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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2019, 06:39:32 AM »
Itís just a beautiful bike.

Exactly. 

The reason a Mille GT is currently worth $3,700 dollars vs. the normally $18,000 for a 1000S has nothing to do with equal performance.
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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2019, 10:11:31 AM »
I'll bet it wouldn't cost all that much to makeover a Mille to a 1000S. But even so, it still wouldn't fetch 18 big ones.

Here's a fun read you might enjoy:

http://yewemmgee.blogspot.com/2011/07/moto-guzzi-1000s.html
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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2019, 11:56:08 AM »
I'll bet it wouldn't cost all that much to makeover a Mille to a 1000S. But even so, it still wouldn't fetch 18 big ones.

Here's a fun read you might enjoy:

http://yewemmgee.blogspot.com/2011/07/moto-guzzi-1000s.html

Shrug. Almost 70,000 miles on mine with the large final drive seal going bad and the Ducati voltage regulator being the only maintenance issues. He is complaining about 50-55mpg. WTF?

The Mille would need a tank, side covers, front and rear fenders, clip-ons, lower front forks to mount fenders, fender mounts, rear sets or the rare and easily breakable foot rest brackets and foot pegs & the clock holders. And of course a paint job.  In the end youíd have a $9-10 thousand dollar bike that was worth more in the itís new parts. 
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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2019, 01:25:15 PM »
In the early 90ís , I traded in my lovely 88 Ducati 750 F1S for an orange/black big valve 1000S. The duck was painful to ride, temperamental at best and I was not allowed to pickle it and park it in the living room. Oh well. The 1000S was interesting but not for all the right reasons. I put a BMW cafe fairing on it and painted/striped to match. Looked great. It was a heavy beast, the low bars and heavy throttle springs would make your hands/wrists cry in agony. The brakes were so so , but you better plan ahead. In a straight line it was great, but you had to be a manly man to muscle it thru the corners. I put Lafranconi sports with whizzer tips on. The sound was fabulous. Typical Guzzi - give it gas and it charged ahead like a big locomotive. In the end , my arms/shoulders couldnít take it anymore and off it went. I hope it still has a good home.
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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2019, 03:12:45 PM »
The one I saw took more of a man than me to pull the throttle.  I suppose I am literally too limp wrist-ed to live with one.  This must be one of the stiffest throttles of all time.
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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2019, 03:49:35 PM »
The one I saw took more of a man than me to pull the throttle.  I suppose I am literally too limp wrist-ed to live with one.  This must be one of the stiffest throttles of all time.

You know after all these years its nice to hear I was not the only one.. I was lead to believe they were all like that.. Granted I still loved the bike.
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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2019, 04:43:00 PM »
You know, in my life I've had some pretty cool cars and bikes but sold them for reasons I now consider pretty minor or easily handled. I wasn't always this smart. So I do understand selling a really cool bike because the throttle was much too stiff. That was one of the things already taken care of on my 87 LM4. But I do know that of which you speak - the 85 LM project is pretty much stock with all three throttle springs intact. Damn, that's a STIFF throttle. It's so stiff, the foam grip would rather slide on the throttle tube than hold its position. On the test ride my hand got sore squeezing hard enough to keep the carbs open. I don't know how the bike could have ever been sold new that way.

I've ridden other bikes with Dellortos and they weren't THAT bad.

As for the clip ons - they're actually not very radical at all, not with the taller steering head. It's kind of like my R100RS, except the bars are wider. A lot of guys can't handle the RS position either, or the short bars, but they've always been fine with me.

I don't understand the comment that these bikes take a lot of muscle to corner. My 87LM didn't want to corner and took a fair amount of muscle before I got smart and changed the 80 series tires to 90s. This 87 has more trail than the 1000S so I can't imagine the S being more work. My LM steers as easily as the T3.

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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2019, 05:30:38 PM »
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I don't understand the comment that these bikes take a lot of muscle to corner.
Me, either. <scratching head> GuzziBob was a little guy, and he could show most riders the way up or down the mountain.
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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2019, 07:58:19 PM »
I have no problems with the feel of the front tire.  Maybe a low tire pressure would explain this for the front.
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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2019, 08:34:19 PM »
Forgot to comment on the brakes. You know, I started riding in the 60s and anything newer than that is more than enough for me. The two pot Brembos with 270mm discs is plenty. However, my bike was de-linked before I got it and I like it. But... the tech that de-linked the brakes installed a larger master specified for dual discs. In actual fact, he should have installed a smaller rear master and left the original front. Since I got the original front in a box of parts with the bike, I installed it for the hell of it. Let me tell you - I mostly use one finger now - sometimes two. I have absolutely no complaints about the brakes on the LM4 - and they're the same as the 1000S.

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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2019, 06:01:58 AM »

As for the clip ons - they're actually not very radical at all, not with the taller steering head. It's kind of like my R100RS, except the bars are wider. A lot of guys can't handle the RS position either, or the short bars, but they've always been fine with me.

I don't understand the comment that these bikes take a lot of muscle to corner. My 87LM didn't want to corner and took a fair amount of muscle before I got smart and changed the 80 series tires to 90s. This 87 has more trail than the 1000S so I can't imagine the S being more work. My LM steers as easily as the T3.

I liked the clipons..  But in my case I have vary long Albatross arms..  With the normal high, pull back bars that cruzer bikes have Im all cramped up feeling like a T-Rex riding it..  Coming from my early 80's UJM custom era bikes, the steering was nice.. I guess if you came from the same era sportbikes it would feel a lot slower.
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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2019, 01:13:08 PM »
I really don't get the slow steering into turns thing.   :tongue:  I've read the comments posted.  One conclusion that I have is that the ecu behind the handlebars needs a reboot.  :grin:  For the record, I'm 5'8" at 160 lbs.  but I also ride Alpine style mountain roads a lot with tight hairpin turns. 
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Re: 1991 1000S on Ebay
« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2019, 01:25:48 PM »
After lots of street miles on both my V7 Sport (not a 1000S, but just for reference) with plain straight Tommaselli clip-ons and my best friends 1987 Ducati F1B retired race bike, I could see where someone used to a similar platform Ducati would see a difference riding a Tonti-frame Guzzi.  If you are used to a Guzzi, a hot F1 is a wheelie king that is simple to steer with knees pinched and what looks like no motorcycle beneath you.  Being used to a invisible Ducati like that, a Guzzi might seem unwieldy whether or not it really is.   My time on them was concurrent, so was easy to experience the differences.

If that mentioned F1S was temperamental and high maintenance, that's not an inherent trait of those bikes.  It was more related to that specific bike.

I think it's what you're used to as a point of reference.  My 95 900SS left here a few years ago.  Same deal.  I like my Guzzi better.
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