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I think it's a pretty good deal assuming you go for a test ride and like it. You're not paying the dealer fees and you also may be saving sales tax on the dealer fees etc. Probably saving around $1000 off the new discounted price.
. 1st service is nothing more than an oil change and valve inspection. There should technical be more stuff done like retorque the heads but I'd bet that get done a lot less than you think.
Thinking of buying this motorcycle. This dealership is about 1 hour from me. Seems like a good price. Never bought a V7 before. What kind of questions should I ask before purchasing ? Thanks for any help. https://mutualent.com/Motorcycles-Moto-Guzzi-V7-III-Racer-2017-Springfield-MA-17f34dc2-f1ab-47d1-b867-a9ab013d4ef2
The mirrors and exhaust are expensive so if you were going to add those on a new bike it helps with the savings. The missing parts take away from the Racer look so if you don't care about that.
FYI, there is no more recommendation to retorque the head bolts on the smallblocks.That ended with the introduction of the Hemi heads.
So now its basically down to an oil change.
Well, three oils, but basically yeah. That and a general inspection of the whole motor and chassis to make sure nothing is amiss from assembly.
May I change my alleged mind? You'll be paying near new price for a bike with a curious past, from a dealer having zero experience with Moto Guzzi or any lasting interest in that bike or you, as a potential continuing customer. Look for dealers left-over sales. Work with someone who has a stake in the business. There's a good chance to make a deal including a warrantee and you can start with a clean sheet on an unmolested bike. R3~
I'm not a fan of the tail chop ... be interesting to see if the original plastic rear fender was cut off or removed ... it does a lot to protect all the electrics under the seat. Guessing the original owner just hacked off the plastic at the rear of seat. Also, the rear fender is 2 parts and might be like $350 or something if you wanted to go back to stock.
Yes the valves need to be checked as well (though the head bolts should still be left alone). I don't buy the first service at the dealer for warranty bs, Magnuson-Moss has that firmly covered.As for the need for first services, I perform them AND CHECK accessible/obvious fasteners precisely because I don't trust dealers to do it during setup.Kinda like when we bought the 07 Sportster and while performing the break-in service I found not only were the intake manifold bolts MISSING, but from lack of marks they'd never even been installed!I do believe that first services on bikes are largely BS and shouldn't be needed in this day and age. I think they still exist for two reasons:1. CYA for the manufacturer to protect them against liability (shift that liability to the owner/dealer and/or catch potential issues and correct them).And2. Drive business back to their dealers. So many who do their own work pay for this service because they are worried about a fictional relationship between it and the warranty. Others will get used to going to the dealer for future services. And frankly dealer service departments are important for dealer profits so any uptick in usage by their customers helps.
In any event just like painting you home prior to listing for sale and curb appeal it adds no value to the property but helps it sell. Same goes with the exhausts and other goodies on the V7. Nice to have but doesn't increase the value.
I didn't do it to retain the warranty. I did it to continue a report with the dealer because there are always "questionable" warranty items that having the dealer on your side helps.
How often do you think the modern day motorcycle sales outlet (not old school dealer) actually goes by the book on the 1st service. Heck I bet most don't even change the oil filter. Honestly maybe the valves should be checked but the 600 mile service thing for the most part on modern day machines is nothing but a money making scheme. The whole fastener checking thing is a joke. They are originally torqued at the factory, supposedly re-checked at dealer setup and then need to be re-re-checked at 600 miles. Honestly if a dealer came out and told me "we" dodged a bullet because they found a lose fastener at the 600 miles service my response would be apparently you didn't do your job at dealer setup.If fastener is found lose at the 600 mile service there is something wrong as technically it has loosened at least once and possible twice in the last 600 miles. It should not be re-re tighten it should be replaced. Heck my Tacoma didn't get a oil/filter change until it was either 1 year old or 10,000 miles. Transmission and gear oils get changed around 40 or 50,000 miles and I'm not aware of any fastener check that has to be completed. Motorcycles! If your not over maintaining them you must be under maintain them.
Wrong!On a pre V7-3 if you don't re-torque the heads then set the valves you will be replacing head gaskets. The exhaust nuts need checking every 300 miles for a few thousand miles and screws will come loose.The III needs the valves at 900 or so miles then you're good for a while.
