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Offline Zinfan

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #60 on: September 26, 2016, 02:35:52 PM »
I'm running beetle's V7 map for non-cat exhausts (I have a GuzziTech 2:2 Stainless Steel system installed) and am getting a bit of popping on decel.  Is there a guzzidaig parameter I could adjust to try and remove this or at least lessen the effect?  Thanks.

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2016, 05:03:55 PM »
I could just modify the map for you.

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #62 on: September 26, 2016, 06:17:51 PM »
I could just modify the map for you.

I suppose that could work!  Really thanks if you could do that, I had guzzidiag so thought I'd ask as I'm a novice at fuel mapping and associated stuff.

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2016, 11:33:55 PM »
Would you be so kind as to remind me which map iteration you have?

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2016, 12:17:31 AM »
Would you be so kind as to remind me which map iteration you have?

The map I downloaded is V7-1-TB-NoCat-D152.2016.05.18.bin

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2016, 03:09:47 AM »
I'll PM you a download link once I've modified the map.

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2016, 07:34:55 AM »
I'm also experiencing a bit of popping on decel, but for the moment I've tried to set the map by myself....  :wink: :bike-037:

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #67 on: September 29, 2016, 08:16:48 PM »
That new map works great beetle!  I have no more decel popping and the fueling across the rev range is fantastic, great job.

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2017, 03:39:25 PM »
Hello,

I would like to ask, maybe somebody could send me latest map for V7 stone 2014, or maybe somebody knows where I can download.

Thank you in advance

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2017, 05:47:43 PM »
Hello,

I would like to ask, maybe somebody could send me latest map for V7 stone 2014, or maybe somebody knows where I can download.

Thank you in advance

so stock map or modified?

what v7, with single TB? alternator in oil?
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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #70 on: June 29, 2017, 01:09:40 AM »
I have a 2016 V7II Stone, stock mufflers, etc. When running at a steady RPM and speed, usually 3500 to 4500 rpm, it feels/sounds like the engine doesn't fire every time - missing every second or two, no rhythm. I have changed the plugs and caps to NGK.
Is this a problem with the map?
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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #71 on: June 29, 2017, 07:02:08 AM »
I have a 2016 V7II Stone, stock mufflers, etc. When running at a steady RPM and speed, usually 3500 to 4500 rpm, it feels/sounds like the engine doesn't fire every time - missing every second or two, no rhythm. I have changed the plugs and caps to NGK.
Is this a problem with the map?

I have a 2015 V7 Stone and with the original factory map that was the rev zone that was problematic.

my dealer had the ecu shipped to guzzi tech for a remap (guzzi Arrows - with cats) as guzzi techs map tool was not available back the.

The difference with the new map was HUGE! 

Throttle response, acceleration, smooth running, etc, etc all greatly improved, although fuel mpg down a bit from 49 - 50 to 45 - 46
but I did ride the bike a lot harder due to the improved performance.

Due to a recent  electrical issue that caused the ecu to be become corrupted I'm currently running the updated V7 guzzi factory map.

Unfortunately i lost my guzzi tech map but my dealer was able to re-flash the ecu with the updated factory map.

i must say that the updated factory map is WAY better than the original one but no where near the guzzitech one.

regards,

Gerry

I'll probably run with the updated map until the off season then decide what to do.



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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #72 on: June 29, 2017, 07:19:41 AM »
I would think that you paid him for a map on your bike, the ecu is smoked, so should be normal that for a small fee or free he puts the map on your bike again. And after that make a backup yourself with Guzzidiag, then you can always put it back if the dealer updates the ecu during service.
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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #73 on: June 29, 2017, 08:01:53 AM »
I would think that you paid him for a map on your bike, the ecu is smoked, so should be normal that for a small fee or free he puts the map on your bike again. And after that make a backup yourself with Guzzidiag, then you can always put it back if the dealer updates the ecu during service.

Well the ecu is back to functional status after the dealer re-flash.

I will contact Todd at some point but right now since the bike runs really good with the updated map I need to concentrate on some other non bike related issues. 

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #74 on: June 29, 2017, 10:06:13 AM »
I just purchase Moto Guzzi few months ago, and actually I like the look of bike, of course is not powerful but for a city ride it's nice bike. So like you understand I'm new with Moto Guzzi and I'm very appreciate what you are doing. Respect.

Answering to your question:
I have map version 3523 (dealer told me but i will check with Guzzi diag) so I think that newer is better:) I like updates:) 
To Beetle and Pauldaytona:
- Like I mentioned I'm new Guzzi fan, so do not know main differences between factory and modified map.
- And what do you mean of asking - what v7, with single TB? alternator in oil?

Vin number starts ZGULWUA0

Thanks again
« Last Edit: June 29, 2017, 11:11:47 AM by gmic »

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #75 on: June 29, 2017, 10:39:54 AM »
- And what do you mean of asking - what v7, with single TB? alternator in oil?

Vin number starts ZGULWUA0

Thanks again

The V7 series has been around now for nearly a decade.

Through 2011 (EU/AU and some markets) or 2012 (US/NorthAmerica) with dual throttle bodies.

2012-2013 or 14 (EU/AU) and 2013-14 (US/NA) the first version of the 1TB bikes with a dry alternator, then around 2015 or so the first version of the 1TB received a new charging system and wet alternator (in engine oil)

2016 or so V7 II

2017 V7 III

Each version uses different maps.

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #76 on: June 29, 2017, 11:02:27 AM »
The V7 series has been around now for nearly a decade.

Through 2011 (EU/AU and some markets) or 2012 (US/NorthAmerica) with dual throttle bodies.

2012-2013 or 14 (EU/AU) and 2013-14 (US/NA) the first version of the 1TB bikes with a dry alternator, then around 2015 or so the first version of the 1TB received a new charging system and wet alternator (in engine oil)

2016 or so V7 II

2017 V7 III

Each version uses different maps.

Should I take off cover of alternator to see if it's wet or dry?

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #77 on: June 29, 2017, 11:14:36 AM »
You have a 2014 Stone, right? That has a dry alternator.
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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #78 on: June 29, 2017, 12:06:55 PM »
Should I take off cover of alternator to see if it's wet or dry?
No, like Malik said you can probably tell by the year. But if in doubt it's pretty obvious. If it's a plastic cover with some room to breath then it's dry. If it's sealed to the motor (and I'm presuming then metal but I don't know for sure), then it's wet.
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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #79 on: June 29, 2017, 02:29:17 PM »
I figured out that I have 1TB bike with a wet (oil) alternator.

Just needed to check label on ECU. I have number CM228304 so it means alternator in oil. And if number CM228301 it means dry alternator.
I got this helpful information from GuzziDiag team, hope it will help for somebody in future.

To beetle what are the benefits of modified MAP?



 


« Last Edit: June 29, 2017, 02:33:21 PM by gmic »

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #80 on: June 29, 2017, 03:46:15 PM »
You sure it's 3523? Maybe 352B? What's the last 3 digits? That will tell me something.

Benefits of a modified map?  That's a very subjective question. I always say that if you're happy with the way it runs, leave it alone. If you have cold start issues, or hunting on a steady throttle, surging or flat spots, then consider a re map. If none of that is happening, or it doesn't bother you, leave it.

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #81 on: July 01, 2018, 10:58:56 PM »
Sorry to resurrect an old thread...but I have the same question that others had before.

I recently bought a 2014 V7 Stone (stock exhaust) that still has the original factory map.  The text file produced by reading it with GuzziDiag says:
Drawing: CM228301   
Hardware: 38M3G3HW304
Omologation: E14   
Software: 3523V702   
Tester:           
Date: 2013.03.15

I would like to update to the modified factory map.  There are no dealers within 3 hours of me.  Where can I get a copy of the later map?

Thanks!

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #82 on: July 02, 2018, 05:42:38 AM »
Pm Jas67, if memory serves he downloaded it and saved it just last month. I know he sent it to someone else on here around that time too.
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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #83 on: July 02, 2018, 09:04:55 PM »
Pm Jas67, if memory serves he downloaded it and saved it just last month. I know he sent it to someone else on here around that time too.

Pm received and replied to.

Here is a link to download it if anyone else wants it:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nN-gsz18HUXd9_rOwMevsvr-8KS7z8Vp
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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #84 on: September 07, 2018, 01:55:34 PM »
hi,
I am new here, positively surprised with mass of usefull info and shared experience. Hope I will be able to add value to this community in the future...Now, need some help with my V7 II Racer.
Cold start issues, hunting on a steady throttle, stalling. I would like to try modified map. Currently in ECU I have the following:
CM228306
38M3G3HW309
4533V795
E15
2016.01.27
Any chance to find cure and create new/modified map? Appreciate your help.
Regards from Poland!


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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #85 on: September 07, 2018, 06:57:20 PM »
hi,
I am new here, positively surprised with mass of usefull info and shared experience. Hope I will be able to add value to this community in the future...Now, need some help with my V7 II Racer.
Cold start issues, hunting on a steady throttle, stalling. I would like to try modified map. Currently in ECU I have the following:
CM228306
38M3G3HW309
4533V795
E15
2016.01.27
Any chance to find cure and create new/modified map? Appreciate your help.
Regards from Poland!

Look up guzzidiag (posts on here on how to get cables and connect a laptop to your Guzzi).  Software is free (but a donation would be nice), cables are around $50 (2 needed). 
Then go to https://www.griso.org/  and click on "V7 Maps" and pick the one that matches your bike best.  ($100 for a map)

You will end up with a very nice running V7!   :grin:



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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #86 on: September 08, 2018, 12:38:49 PM »
I have an early V7iii which runs fine on the factory map (much better than the V7ii), but tends to cut out below 2000 rpm. Has there been any V7iii factory map updates at all, or is there only one?

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #87 on: September 09, 2018, 03:32:54 PM »
Doskonale!It means perfect in polish :) This describes my V7 II Racer after map update. No cold start issues (stalling/coughing/no reaction on throttle...). Bike reacts immediately, there are no lags, I can control accel very precisely, it is repeatable and predictable. Really, I feel, I have totally different machine, better one, of course.
Thanks a lot for guidelines, many positive PM I received. BTW- attached pic is my V7… 



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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #88 on: September 18, 2018, 12:23:54 AM »
Nothing on V7iii map updates? Have there been any?   

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Re: V7 Maps
« Reply #89 on: September 18, 2018, 03:53:02 PM »
Check out the available maps for the V7 III on www.griso.org. Now may be a good time to get a good one or be a test mule for variations - beetle's laid up for a few weeks after loosing an argument with a pot hole and is likely to have time on his hands, while keeping weight off his healing leg & ribs.
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