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Title: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on July 28, 2020, 04:18:54 PM
This should be an interesting 7 day auction.

Anyone here the seller?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-moto-guzzi-v10-centauro-2/

(https://i.ibb.co/Ry6r8SW/F1-A57-C11-FA21-49-B2-BB5-F-31-EE675-F95-ED.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ry6r8SW)
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: bodine99 on July 28, 2020, 04:30:30 PM
Are Carrillo con/rods factory?? Very nice sport bike
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on July 28, 2020, 04:39:16 PM
Looks like a nice bike, no mention of any upgrade to the ECU (Creedon chip et al), or exhaust (Stucci or other crossover) or the plastic head temperature sensor replacement, all of which are necessary to make one of these run well.   If it really has only 500 miles, maybe that's WHY it only has 500 miles, Centauros were burping, hiccuping pigs "as sold" for EPA purposes.   

Don't know why the later model adjustable bars would be gone ... the "1999 model" thing must be a '98 that came in late and was dealer-sourced as a '99 for registration purposes.

Hope someone gets it who can love and appreciate it; they're nice bikes when sorted, getting rare.  I enjoyed all my 35,000 miles on mine ....

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on July 28, 2020, 06:20:27 PM
I just saw this...yes, should be very interesting with *** NO RESERVE *** over the next week. 

Did I read this right, only 500 miles? :shocked: :shocked: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Turin on July 28, 2020, 09:56:17 PM
I don't know how the mufflers would get discolored like that with 500 miles.
looks bone stock to me.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: TN Mark on July 28, 2020, 10:08:30 PM
Likely the original fueling would discolor the pipes in well under 505 miles. As delivered, the fueling on the Centauro was worse than horrendous. Having the color matched fairing and chin spoiler is also a huge plus.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Tusayan on July 28, 2020, 11:33:13 PM
Are Carrillo con/rods factory??

Yes, Centauros and Daytona RSs all have them, as do ‘98 1100 Sport Corsas - which weren’t sold in the US.  Like the Odyssey battery and some other American stuff, probably an artifact of John Wittner’s role at the factory at that time.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on July 29, 2020, 10:44:22 AM


looks bone stock to me.

Even those insane bar risers?  Jeeze that has got to be the ugliest motorcycle ever made in factory, and a strong contender for ugliest including custom built choppers, baggers, extended-swingarm sport bikes and assorted other nonsense
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on July 29, 2020, 10:56:56 AM
bone stock except the bar risers.  :smiley:
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: blackcat on July 29, 2020, 12:05:15 PM
Even those insane bar risers?  Jeeze that has got to be the ugliest motorcycle ever made in factory, and a strong contender for ugliest including custom built choppers, baggers, extended-swingarm sport bikes and assorted other nonsense

Not a big fan either but, I'd rather have a Centauro than a 63 Apollo.

(https://www.motoplanete.com/ducati/zoom-700px/Ducati-1260-Apollo-V4-1963-700px.jpg)
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Joliet Jim on July 29, 2020, 05:55:11 PM
Even those insane bar risers?  Jeeze that has got to be the ugliest motorcycle ever made in factory, and a strong contender for ugliest including custom built choppers, baggers, extended-swingarm sport bikes and assorted other nonsense

I'm sorry you own a Breva so your opinion regarding ugly motorcycles does not count.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on July 29, 2020, 09:12:56 PM
Several of my expert Guzzi buddies are now questioning whether that bike indeed has 500 original miles...?????

* Discoloration on the exhaust...???
* Maybe a replacement speedometer...???
* Maybe other unknown or disclosed issues...???

Like the old saying goes..."Let The Buyer Beware..."
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Joliet Jim on July 30, 2020, 07:58:19 AM
Several of my expert Guzzi buddies are now questioning whether that bike indeed has 500 original miles...?????

* Discoloration on the exhaust...???
* Maybe a replacement speedometer...???
* Maybe other unknown or disclosed issues...???

Like the old saying goes..."Let The Buyer Beware..."

All that said, it does look nice..
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on July 30, 2020, 08:11:35 AM
Several of my expert Guzzi buddies are now questioning whether that bike indeed has 500 original miles...?????

* Discoloration on the exhaust...???
* Maybe a replacement speedometer...???
* Maybe other unknown or disclosed issues...???

Like the old saying goes..."Let The Buyer Beware..."

Now maybe your Centauro was different, but my Centauro's stainless single-wall exhaust starting turning lovely heat colors the first time it came up to operating temperature ... yellow, blue, greenish.   It never corroded, just turned colors.

As far as the speedometer or "undisclosed issues", ANY motorcycle for sale can have those.  I still think that, given that the bike apparently has not had an engine control or fuel flow upgrade, 500 miles is about all anyone could stand to ride one..... :violent1:

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Cal3 on July 30, 2020, 09:26:40 AM
Thats a lot of discoloration on the pipes for 500 miles.....I get the head pipes will have some quickly, but the exhaust cans are very discolored too
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Tusayan on July 30, 2020, 09:43:10 AM
THe exhaust pipes look normal. Stainless steel is not chrome and despite the name corrodes to this level quickly when the bike is run.  It’ll polish off with some elbow grease but it takes effort to maintain.

This bike looks brand new to me, matching the 500 miles on the odometer.  There must be a story as to why it was never used, it’d be interesting to know and probably raise the level of interest in the auction.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on July 30, 2020, 09:55:24 AM
Quote
There must be a story as to why it was never used,

Have you ridden a bone stock Centauro?  :grin: I test rode one, and wasn't sure I'd make it back to the dealer.. but I *knew* it could be fixed.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: twowheeladdict on July 30, 2020, 10:01:11 AM
She is a fat bottomed girl alright.  According to "Queen", they make the rockin' world go 'round. 
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on July 30, 2020, 10:09:19 AM
All that being said, let's she what she goes for in the end...at $2400 now with 5 days to go! :thumb: :cool: :wink:


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: LeRoy on July 30, 2020, 03:10:21 PM
Based on the give-and-take between the seller and others in the Comments section of the listing, the seller knows Centauros, and this particular bike, very well. He also seems very up front in what it takes to get a Centauro to run well as well as what's been done -- and is still needed -- on this bike. Given all of this, I'd say it could be a very good bike if the buyer has his eyes open and wits about him.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on July 30, 2020, 03:20:42 PM
Based on the give-and-take between the seller and others in the Comments section of the listing, the seller knows Centauros, and this particular bike, very well. He also seems very up front in what it takes to get a Centauro to run well as well as what's been done -- and is still needed -- on this bike. Given all of this, I'd say it could be a very good bike if the buyer has his eyes open and wits about him.

Agreed. If someone *wants* a Centauro.. this is the one.

Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on July 30, 2020, 03:55:16 PM
Based on the give-and-take between the seller and others in the Comments section of the listing, the seller knows Centauros, and this particular bike, very well. He also seems very up front in what it takes to get a Centauro to run well as well as what's been done -- and is still needed -- on this bike. Given all of this, I'd say it could be a very good bike if the buyer has his eyes open and wits about him.

You're right.   I didn't look at the comments until you said something.   I agree that this would be a good bike for someone wanting a Centauro.    Do the airbox, the crossover, the remapping, the cylinder temperature sensor, and be prepared for the oil pump mods down the road, you'll be into it for about $1000 over the purchase price, and could have a really nice bike!

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on July 30, 2020, 05:23:16 PM
Plus, it is a No Reserve auction.

Currently at $2400., which will double or triple by the auctions end.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: fotoguzzi on July 30, 2020, 05:59:14 PM
Hey if your lusting for one yourself.. there are two used yellow Centauro at the Motorcycle Shop, Watertown SD
In general They have pretty fair prices.

(https://i.ibb.co/q09YpCJ/9-A406-D5-A-CB01-4275-B48-D-A9-A2028-A70-D9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q09YpCJ)

BTW, that Strada in the foreground  has Only 3,000 miles. I think Nancy said it was $3500.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on July 30, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
Hey if your lusting for one yourself.. there are two used yellow Centauro at the Motorcycle Shop, Watertown SD
In general They have pretty fair prices.

(https://i.ibb.co/q09YpCJ/9-A406-D5-A-CB01-4275-B48-D-A9-A2028-A70-D9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q09YpCJ)

BTW, that Strada in the foreground  has Only 3,000 miles. I think Nancy said it was $3500.

WOW!!  That Strada is worth a closer look... :cool: :smiley: :thumb:
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on July 30, 2020, 06:17:06 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t a Strada 1000, essentially a Mille, sheeps clothing?

Hey if your lusting for one yourself.. there are two used yellow Centauro at the Motorcycle Shop, Watertown SD
In general They have pretty fair prices.

(https://i.ibb.co/q09YpCJ/9-A406-D5-A-CB01-4275-B48-D-A9-A2028-A70-D9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q09YpCJ)

BTW, that Strada in the foreground  has Only 3,000 miles. I think Nancy said it was $3500.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on July 30, 2020, 08:43:46 PM
Plus, it is a No Reserve auction.

Currently at $2400., which will double or triple by the auctions end.

I'd be surprised if it goes for more than ..... $3500.

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on July 30, 2020, 09:18:42 PM
I would be surprised if it sells for a penny less than $6000.


I'd be surprised if it goes for more than ..... $3500.

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: fotoguzzi on July 30, 2020, 10:01:00 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t a Strada 1000, essentially a Mille, sheeps clothing?
its an SP3 without the fairing.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on July 31, 2020, 08:09:51 AM
I would be surprised if it sells for a penny less than $6000.

Well, then, in a few days ONE of us is going to get a surprise!

I love surprises, don't care whose they are .....   :thumb:

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on July 31, 2020, 09:29:51 AM
Lannis,

We might both be surprised if the hammer drops at over five figures.

Don’t underestimate the bidders on Bring A Trailer. Recently, someone paid over $300,000 for a Datsun 240Z on that auction site.

Well, then, in a few days ONE of us is going to get a surprise!

I love surprises, don't care whose they are .....   :thumb:

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Groover on July 31, 2020, 09:30:27 AM
Following
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Tusayan on July 31, 2020, 09:38:26 AM
Lannis,

We might both be surprised if the hammer drops at over five figures.

Bring a Trailer is hard to predict, the buyers seem to be compulsive and buying without market knowledge, in relation to other places where motorcycles are sold. From memory Honda 70s for $6K, R100GSs for $18K etc, followed by another similar example that sells for half as much.  I would never sell a bike without reserve on BaT specifically, and my reserve for this Centauro on BaT would be $6500.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on July 31, 2020, 09:47:15 AM
Tusayan.. I'm with you on the 6500, and that is if I *wanted* to sell it. They aren't making any more of them, they are getting rarer by the day, and it's new for all practical purposes.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Joliet Jim on July 31, 2020, 10:21:45 AM
I'll just mention there's a yellow one in the swap meet section for I think 5500 with a lot of options.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on July 31, 2020, 10:29:51 AM
There's also a whole lot of them sold for $3000 - $3500.

Or we THINK they're sold.   As I've mentioned many a time before, when I was putting in a lot of effort tracking auctioned BSA twins, I would very often find one "sold" at some galactic price, and then a week later the same seller has it back up on the auction site again, once the "buyer's remorse" cramp hit while trying to write a stupid-sized check.

Can't just take the first "sale's" word for it ....

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on July 31, 2020, 10:55:39 AM
I cannot disagree with your logic here, but there is a difference on BaT.

 The one thing that sets a BaT auction apart, is that if a “ buyer “ fails to follow through on a successful auction purchase, they forfeit the 5% BaT fee, and are subsequently banned from the site.

 Not a bomb proof system, but it can deter  bidders that have “ remorse”.

...Or we THINK they're sold.   As I've mentioned many a time before, when I was putting in a lot of effort tracking auctioned BSA twins, I would very often find one "sold" at some galactic price, and then a week later the same seller has it back up on the auction site again, once the "buyer's remorse" cramp hit while trying to write a stupid-sized check.

Can't just take the first "sale's" word for it ....

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on July 31, 2020, 11:02:14 AM
I cannot disagree with your logic here, but there is a difference on BaT.

 The one thing that sets a BaT auction apart, is that if a “ buyer “ fails to follow through on a successful auction purchase, they forfeit the 5% BaT fee, and are subsequently banned from the site.

 Not a bomb proof system, but it can deter  bidders that have “ remorse”.

Thanks for that ... I've never been a member of BaT, so don't know the rules.   If it's pretty well protected, sales there are a better indicator than sales on other big sites ....

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Irn on July 31, 2020, 11:39:40 AM
Lannis, really good article a while back in the NYT about BAT.  It was started by one guy in a garage/office live work space in the Mission neighborhood of San Francisco, he's still there.  They are really taking a bite out of the high-end car auction sites, lower seller costs.  Hope the NYT article is not behind a paywall.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/business/bring-a-trailer-classic-car-auctions.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/business/bring-a-trailer-classic-car-auctions.html)
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on July 31, 2020, 12:20:07 PM
Lannis, really good article a while back in the NYT about BAT.  It was started by one guy in a garage/office live work space in the Mission neighborhood of San Francisco, he's still there.  They are really taking a bite out of the high-end car auction sites, lower seller costs.  Hope the NYT article is not behind a paywall.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/business/bring-a-trailer-classic-car-auctions.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/business/bring-a-trailer-classic-car-auctions.html)

Thanks!   I've seen lots of references to it, seen a few listings, never have used it.   

I've got a few vehicles that I'll be prepping to sell in the interest of "Downsizing" and "Between Here and the Afterlife, There's Not Enough Time" that would probably qualify, but first I'll do my usual thing of just posting them on sites where I know people and they know me, and get a worry-free, hassle-free price that might not be the absolute top I could get, but will make me and someone else happy .... !!

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Tom on July 31, 2020, 02:12:12 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t a Strada 1000, essentially a Mille, sheeps clothing?

The Strada became the plain street model after the factory ran out of fairings.  Mille was the model before. 
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on July 31, 2020, 04:35:53 PM
Has the *great* medium valve engine..
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on July 31, 2020, 04:37:37 PM
The poor, lonely, Centauro only up to $2500...with 4 days to go...Will it hit $5,000? :rolleyes: :shocked: :rolleyes: :shocked:

By the way, I really like this yellow Norton Commando also! :thumb: :cool:


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on July 31, 2020, 05:56:11 PM
The poor, lonely, Centauro only up to $2500...with 4 days to go...Will it hit $5,000? :rolleyes: :shocked: :rolleyes: :shocked:

B

It could jump $10,000 in two seconds, you just never know .... Things happen fast in these here computers ... !

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 01, 2020, 10:08:55 AM
It could jump $10,000 in two seconds, you just never know .... Things happen fast in these here computers ... !

Lannis

Yes, you are correct...and especially if two buyers toward the end want it badly... :thumb: :cool: :wink:
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 01, 2020, 12:18:01 PM
C'mon now...current bid @ $3100 - 3 days to go!! 
*** NO RESERVE!! *** :laugh: :grin: :wink: :thumb: :cool:


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 01, 2020, 04:42:53 PM
Creeped right on UP to $3500 now!!!   Here we GO!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :thumb: :cool:


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on August 01, 2020, 04:52:26 PM
Creeped right on UP to $3500 now!!!   Here we GO!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :thumb: :cool:


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The seller gave a nice shout-out for Mark at MGC today, so that makes him OK in my book.

The good thing about this is when folks say "I think it will go for THIS" and someone else says "Sez you!  I think it will go for THAT!", it's not like arguing free will vs predestination, or whether man's nature is one of fallen depravity or innate goodness, or whether capitalism or communism will win out this century ...

... we'll know on Tuesday!   Can't say that about many other things ...  :thumb:

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Irn on August 01, 2020, 09:41:09 PM
Lannis, 4k, and raising with 3 days left.  The nice thing about BAT is the comment section, some very knowledgeable people giving great insight, worthwhile to read through.  For an item like this or most Guzzis, it is a safe place to sell quickly and get some value out of a bike that has a limited audience.  The same was true for Reverb for selling guitars when they first started.  Now it is overrun by dealers and they seriously jacked up their commissions.  Glad to see you are open-minded to BAT, it fills a need and is a worthwhile tool for the community.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on August 02, 2020, 07:06:17 AM
For an item like this or most Guzzis, it is a safe place to sell quickly and get some value out of a bike that has a limited audience. 

ALL my bikes seem to have a limited audience ... I've never had a Kawasaki Concours or a Suzuki V-strom or DR-650, so the only people who have ever heard of what I have for sale is the folks on the forums I frequent.

And as I've mentioned, this and two other forums are the only places I've bought and sold bikes for 20 years.   But us being notoriously tight with our money, the make-a-nickel-scream factor might get too much for even me and I'll have to resort to something like BaT ...   :wink:

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on August 02, 2020, 08:47:36 AM
Lannis,

  Two additional points regarding the Bring A Trailer site.

  One, the audience of potential bidders reaches far and wide, more or less worldwide. I feel that this is one of the reasons, that we see some extraordinary bidding on some vehicles.

  Secondly, and this may change due to the fact that the site was just sold to the Hearst Newspaper Co. they don’t accept every vehicle. I have only had one auction item accepted, and two other vehicle were declined. The rationale for the declines can be baffling. Often, you will see an identical vehicle auctioned, as the one that they just turned down.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Irn on August 02, 2020, 09:36:06 AM
SCDR,

Bummer it was sold to Hearst corp, of course, it will change.  You will see more dealers and higher fees.  The reason even though folks complain I have bought most of my items on Craigslist.  Craig Newmark, who I see on occasion having coffee in my neighborhood, still owns most of the site, and while they now charge for more categories of listings, it is not operated to maximize profits.  Lannis I agree the boards are a great place to find and sell items, but as SCDR points out a very limited audience.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on August 02, 2020, 10:20:49 AM
Irn,

  Yes, Hearst will undoubtedly make systematic, revenue enhancements to BaT. Hopefully, the original concept of welcoming enthusiasts will remain.

   I do want to clarify, that I was not suggesting that this site, wildguzzi.com, is not a viable platform to market Guzzi’s. I only commented that BaT may have a worldwide audience, and some of that audience make large bids on vehicles that they want.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: blackcat on August 02, 2020, 11:01:26 AM

   I do want to clarify, that I was not suggesting that this site, wildguzzi.com, is not a viable platform to market Guzzi’s. I only commented that BaT may have a worldwide audience, and some of that audience make large bids on vehicles that they want.

Guzzi people are notoriously cheap, so moving your bike onto a platform that could possibly get more money for your property is a reasonable plan.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on August 02, 2020, 12:36:20 PM
Guzzi people are notoriously cheap, so moving your bike onto a platform that could possibly get more money for your property is a reasonable plan.

It is.   But is it worth the potential hassle?

ANY worldwide public platform, no matter how well protected, can have deadbeats, people who aren't honest about descriptions, Dreaded Previous Owners, check kiters, looky-lous, "can you deliver to Deadhorse?", whatever.   

It's worth some money to me to not have to worry about those sorts of things, ever.

Some friends of mine buy, fix up, and rent houses in the city.  They'll buy a run-down house for $25,000, pay some hard-working, fast guys $10,000 to fix it up ready to rent, rent it for $900 a month for three or four years, and sell it for $50,000.   I could do that, no problem, make a lot of money.

They make good money, but Lord what a lot of hassle.   Rent collection, things broken in the middle of the night, eviction notices, tenants beating up the property.   Sure, you can get good ones where that doesn't happen, just like you can find good buyers or sellers of bikes that are honest, but the whole world isn't like that.

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 03, 2020, 08:09:35 AM
Now at $5,486.... and still one day to go!!!  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :cool: :wink:


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: blackcat on August 03, 2020, 08:16:54 AM
"Guzzi people are notoriously cheap, so moving your bike onto a platform that could possibly get more money for your property is a reasonable plan.

It is.   But is it worth the potential hassle?

ANY worldwide public platform, no matter how well protected, can have deadbeats, people who aren't honest about descriptions, Dreaded Previous Owners, check kiters, looky-lous, "can you deliver to Deadhorse?", whatever.   

It's worth some money to me to not have to worry about those sorts of things, ever."

I sold some parts to a well known person on this list some years ago and it took me a couple of months to finally get the money out of him. And we aren't talking about a lot of money but it was a complete hassle to finally get all the funds.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on August 03, 2020, 08:20:22 AM
JJ,

At this rate, it is possible that it will get close to $10,000., if not over. Looks like there are enough interested parties.

If we don’t lose our power and internet on Tuesday, (hurricane coming through) I will be watching the never ending last 2 minutes.

Now at $5,486.... and still one day to go!!!  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :cool: :wink:


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 03, 2020, 10:31:04 AM
Now @ $7500...and still one day to go!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked:

:huh: :huh: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on August 03, 2020, 10:53:17 AM
JJ,

Yours 98 is a GT version.

 Could you illuminate what the differences between the auction bike, and yours are?

Now @ $7500...and still one day to go!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked:

:huh: :huh: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 03, 2020, 11:08:53 AM
JJ,

Your 98 is a GT version.

 Could you illuminate what the differences between the auction bike, and yours are?

My Centauro GT has a belly pan, cafe wind screen, and a factory Centauro luggage rack.  I also have the rear Biposto cowl, but you can't use that with the rack, so it's one or the other.

Mine also has a plethora of sensible upgrades / mods: Caruso "steel" oil pump / timing gears, Will Creedon chip, "loud" dual German, red Hella horns, black Aprilia mirrors, dual Hyperlites on license plate holder, bright LED head light, (with cooling fan), leather tool pouch, etc.


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on August 03, 2020, 12:18:47 PM
JJ,

   That’s a beauty, and nice mods.

Thanks for the tutorial.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 03, 2020, 04:49:30 PM
JJ,

   That’s a beauty, and nice mods.

Thanks for the tutorial.

You are very welcome, and thanks for your kinds words.  Mine has 17,000 original miles.  I bought it five (5) years ago in Tucson with 6,500 miles on it.  2nd owner from new...reportedly, it was sold new in Dallas, TX back in the day... :thumb: :cool: :wink:
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: TN Mark on August 03, 2020, 05:05:14 PM
My Centauro GT has a belly pan, cafe wind screen, and a factory Centauro luggage rack.  I also have the rear Biposto cowl, but you can't use that with the rack, so it's one or the other.

Mine also has a plethora of sensible upgrades / mods: Caruso "steel" oil pump / timing gears, Will Creedon chip, "loud" dual German, red Hella horns, black Aprilia mirrors, dual Hyperlites on license plate holder, bright LED head light, (with cooling fan), leather tool pouch, etc.


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Beautiful and well sorted, congratulations on your beautiful Beast.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Joliet Jim on August 03, 2020, 06:11:25 PM
My GT has GT decal on gastank, GT touring seat (not in either pic), GT shield. no belly pan and a bunch of accessories for sport touring


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 03, 2020, 08:04:49 PM
My GT has GT decal on gastank, GT touring seat (not in either pic), GT shield. no belly pan and a bunch of accessories for sport touring


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I have that decal as well...Nice looking Centauro!!

NOTE:  I believe the luggage rack, bikini fairing and belly pan were "OPTIONS" on the GT
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: CT Dharma on August 03, 2020, 08:07:43 PM
My Centauro GT has a belly pan, cafe wind screen, and a factory Centauro luggage rack.  I also have the rear Biposto cowl, but you can't use that with the rack, so it's one or the other.

Mine also has a plethora of sensible upgrades / mods: Caruso "steel" oil pump / timing gears, Will Creedon chip, "loud" dual German, red Hella horns, black Aprilia mirrors, dual Hyperlites on license plate holder, bright LED head light, (with cooling fan), leather tool pouch, etc.


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JJ- Can you tell me about the LED headlight upgrade?
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 03, 2020, 08:23:31 PM
QUOTE:  JJ- Can you tell me about the LED headlight upgrade?

It was an aftermarket bulb, replacing the stock bulb, with a cooling fan that a Guzzi mechanic buddy of mine bought for me online.  It is quite bright and just plugs right in! :thumb: :cool: :smiley:

I believe this is the one:

https://ledlightstreet.com/products/1998-moto-guzzi-v10-centauro-sport-led-headlight-bulb-9003?variant=29290416144437&msclkid=7e955a5270181702ff57057ac96cb2fe&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Bing%20-%20LED%20Other%20-%20Shopping&utm_term=4585994282020865&utm_content=LED%20Other%20-%20Shopping
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: CT Dharma on August 04, 2020, 05:33:18 AM
QUOTE:  JJ- Can you tell me about the LED headlight upgrade?

It was an aftermarket bulb, replacing the stock bulb, with a cooling fan that a Guzzi mechanic buddy of mine bought for me online.  It is quite bright and just plugs right in! :thumb: :cool: :smiley:

I believe this is the one:

https://ledlightstreet.com/products/1998-moto-guzzi-v10-centauro-sport-led-headlight-bulb-9003?variant=29290416144437&msclkid=7e955a5270181702ff57057ac96cb2fe&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Bing%20-%20LED%20Other%20-%20Shopping&utm_term=4585994282020865&utm_content=LED%20Other%20-%20Shopping



Thanks. How is the light pattern?
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: cee2cee on August 04, 2020, 07:23:37 AM
I'd be surprised if it goes for more than ..... $3500.

Lannis

Auction ends in 7 hours and it is already at $7500!
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 04, 2020, 08:31:16 AM
Thanks. How is the light pattern?

Light pattern is excellent, much brighter than stock, even in the daytime.  Everyone riding ahead of me always tells me it's very bright and easily seen in their rear view mirrors!!... :thumb: :cool:
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: fotoguzzi on August 04, 2020, 09:21:21 AM
Wow, the Centauro worth investing in? You owners should stock up on spares, I have some on eBay right now like a complete drive shaft/u joints in excellent condition.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293673340615?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: sdcr on August 04, 2020, 09:33:36 AM
I just noticed that the owner added pics of the small fairing, belly pan plus a Will Creedon chip.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 04, 2020, 10:51:43 AM
I told the story in an earlier thread about a guy riding a 1980's Yamaha Venture, whom we met on the road in Springerville, AZ. 

I asked him if he was worried about getting spare parts if something happened.  He said:

"No, because I have four (4) complete Ventures in my garage..."


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Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on August 04, 2020, 11:24:35 AM
I told the story in an earlier thread about a guy riding a 1980's Yamaha Venture, whom we met on the road in Springerville, AZ. 

I asked him if he was worried about getting spare parts if something happened.  He said:

"No, because I have four (4) complete Ventures in my garage..."


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I ride a 1955 BSA M21 with 60,000 miles on it.   The company that made it 65 years ago has been out of business for 48 years.

Ask me if I'm worried about whether I can get parts for it or not!!   :thumb:

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 04, 2020, 12:26:44 PM
QUOTEI ride a 1955 BSA M21 with 60,000 miles on it.   The company that made it 65 years ago has been out of business for 48 years.  Ask me if I'm worried about whether I can get parts for it or not!!   :thumb:  Lannis

Lannis - Are you worried about whether you can get parts or not for your 1955 BSA M21?!? :laugh: :grin: :wink:

(Only joking, of course!)  :wink: :thumb: :cool: 

Today, thanks to the Internet, no issues.  I used to subscribe to Classic Bike from the UK, and that magazine is LOADED with companies providing spare parts and more for all kinds of extinct British classics... :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: blackcat on August 04, 2020, 01:01:42 PM
Yeah, I can get almost any part for my 68 Norton but try to get parts for some Guzzi's and it is difficult at best.  The last time a front fender for a 1000S came up for sale on eBay four?years ago and it was almost $700 dollars.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: wirespokes on August 04, 2020, 02:22:59 PM
Yeah - but the 1000S is  one very rare bird! I seem to recall only 70 coming to the US almost 30 years ago. The fender was unique to that bike. I heard of a ratty seat showing up on ebay a couple years ago and scooped up instantly for $500.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: blackcat on August 04, 2020, 02:37:34 PM
Yeah - but the 1000S is  one very rare bird! I seem to recall only 70 coming to the US almost 30 years ago. The fender was unique to that bike. I heard of a ratty seat showing up on ebay a couple years ago and scooped up instantly for $500.

I was fortunate to buy a mostly unused seat a couple of years ago for $300 bucks and only because it was a buy it now and the notice went to my phone and I purchased it within a couple of minutes of when it hit eBay. 

And I currently have a V7Sport front fender on the 1000S and have kept the stock fender on the shelf. 

The point is, that the aftermarket is obviously much smaller for Guzzi compared to most large production British bikes. Buy a Centauro,etc.etc and you better start stockpiling parts. If that recently sold Centauro that was in parts was closer to me I would have scooped that up in a second as a parts bike for my Daytona.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on August 04, 2020, 02:43:20 PM
QUOTEI ride a 1955 BSA M21 with 60,000 miles on it.   The company that made it 65 years ago has been out of business for 48 years.  Ask me if I'm worried about whether I can get parts for it or not!!   :thumb:  Lannis

Lannis - Are you worried about whether you can get parts or not for your 1955 BSA M21?!? :laugh: :grin: :wink:

(Only joking, of course!)  :wink: :thumb: :cool: 

Today, thanks to the Internet, no issues.  I used to subscribe to Classic Bike from the UK, and that magazine is LOADED with companies providing spare parts and more for all kinds of extinct British classics... :thumb: :thumb:

That's why I quit worrying years ago about the specter of Guzzi "Going Out Of Business" for real ....

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Tusayan on August 04, 2020, 03:44:07 PM
Sold for $8400.  My guess was $9K, but when factoring in the 5% additional buyers fee that’s close.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: JJ on August 04, 2020, 03:55:43 PM
Sold for $8400.  My guess was $9K, but when factoring in the 5% additional buyers fee that’s close.

Yes, I saw that just now...well, there you go!! :thumb: :cool: :wink: 

I was just glad to see it went over $6,000-$6,500!! :wink:
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Lannis on August 04, 2020, 04:43:02 PM
Sold for $8400.  My guess was $9K, but when factoring in the 5% additional buyers fee that’s close.

Well, it's worth having my $3500 guess get blown away halfway through the process to find out about Bring-A-Trailer ... it'll be interesting to see how that develops ... is it a site for nice genuine bikes?   Or a thing like Pebble Beach or one of the national auctions where things go for massive amounts of money relative to what normal people can get?

OR did I sell my $4500 Centauro WAY too soon .... ?

Lannis
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on August 04, 2020, 08:35:03 PM
I think Centauro prices will eventually rise, but *this* one was pretty special.
Title: Re: A Centauro on Bring a Trailer
Post by: Joliet Jim on August 05, 2020, 06:59:10 AM
I think Centauro prices will eventually rise, but *this* one was pretty special.

Sounds good Chuck, I'll hang on to mine for a while longer