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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: JJ on October 16, 2020, 07:59:19 AM
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From Portland...anyone here? Wonder what the final hammer price will be? :wink: :cool: :thumb:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-moto-guzzi-centauro-v10/
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From Portland...anyone here? Wonder what the final hammer price will be? :wink: :cool: :thumb:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-moto-guzzi-centauro-v10/
That's nice. In the real world, Centauros sell for anywhere from $3500 to $5000. On BaT (the "Moe's" of auction sites) it might go for $10,000 - who can tell?
Lannis
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After watching some of the BaT shit bidding that happens on that site, I am going to speculate $12,750.
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What exactly is wrong with Guzzi's fetching more money on BAT?
Should the owner post it on MGNOC Classified and settle for $3K and that would be after all the high pocket whining about the price?
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That's nice. In the real world, Centauros sell for anywhere from $3500 to $5000. On BaT (the "Moe's" of auction sites) it might go for $10,000 - who can tell?
Lannis
My prediction on BaT is that this one, which is a nice example, will go $6000-$6500...or maybe higher? :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:
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I would take $6500 for mine! :grin:
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I’m not saying that there is anything “wrong” with Guzzi’s selling for more money.
What my post attempted to convey, is that many vehicles, Datsun's, Mazda’s, Porsche’s etc., are sometimes bid, way beyond market reality. That’s all.
What exactly is wrong with Guzzi's fetching more money on BAT?
Should the owner post it on MGNOC Classified and settle for $3K and that would be after all the high pocket whining about the price?
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I’m not saying that there is anything “wrong” with Guzzi’s selling for more money.
What my post attempted to convey, is that many vehicles, Datsun's, Mazda’s, Porsche’s etc., are sometimes bid, way beyond market reality. That’s all.
I sent these two links to my brother who owned both of these Datsun's when new and of course he couldn't believe those prices but times change and eBay isn't always the place to sell such vehicles. I'm glad that Guzzi's have gotten a premium price on BAT and compared to Ducati's they are relatively cheap even at the higher prices.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-datsun-240z-160/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-datsun-2000-roadster-24/
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What exactly is wrong with Guzzi's fetching more money on BAT?
Should the owner post it on MGNOC Classified and settle for $3K and that would be after all the high pocket whining about the price?
Nothing wrong with it ... it's just that it seems to be some sort of "Alternative Reality" or "Parallel Universe" in the world of selling bikes.
Like "Moe's Cycle Garden". Two Loopframes - one in "Our World", really nice condition, ready to go, shiny and bright, $8000 asking, sells for $7500. Same bike that LOOKS (subjective) and undoubtedly FUNCTIONS (objective) the same on "Moe's" - $28,500 asking, sells for who knows what, because no one we know has ever bought one of those. Or sold one.
That brings up the question of "Has anyone here ever sold a bike on Bring-A-Trailer?" The bikes that are deemed worthy for sale seem to sell for two or three times what they trade for in the world I live in, ones I've bought and sold, anyway. Is that what folks' experience is?
Lannis
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Lannis,
A few months ago, I submitted my 1983 Le Mans III to BaT, and it was just accepted (apparently BaT does not accept every vehicle). Due to the fact that we are entering fall, I may not put it up, until next March.
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That brings up the question of "Has anyone here ever sold a bike on Bring-A-Trailer?" The bikes that are deemed worthy for sale seem to sell for two or three times what they trade for in the world I live in, ones I've bought and sold, anyway. Is that what folks' experience is?
Lannis
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Nope, I wouldn’t take it at half the price..
The headlight is incorrectly aimed, no bloody good..... :rolleyes:
BTW. What is the conventional wisdom behind wrapping the pipes ? It reminds me to going out to dinner with Angelina Jolie and winding a bloody great bandage around her face..! The side on shot looks reminiscent of a Hyabusa..
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Already up to $4,000...with six (6) days still to GO!! :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh: :cool: :thumb: :wink: :smiley:
(https://i.ibb.co/wJs1Vgb/Screen-Shot-2020-10-16-at-3-35-45-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/wJs1Vgb)
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sdcr, could you share some details of what all it entails to list a bike on BAT? I see it takes a few months to get "approved". what about cost, photos, etc.
Thanks,
Rick.
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BaT charges $99 for the listing. You submit photos and some background info. If/when accepted you typically supply additional photos and info. They write the ad and submit it to you for approval or corrections. Buyer pays fees 5% I believe and BaT puts you in contact with the buyer to conclude payment and sale details.
Last January at mecum auction a Centauro only brought a 2500 bid if I recall. It didn’t make reserve......
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Rick,
DsrDave pretty much covered it.
As a seller and buyer, they have access to your CC. When I bid, they put a charge hold, at 5%. If you don’t win the vehicle, it gets released.
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Rick,
DsrDave pretty much covered it.
As a seller and buyer, they have access to your CC. When I bid, they put a charge hold, at 5%. If you don’t win the vehicle, it gets released.
I don't need any kind of bike at any price bad enough to transact in THAT environment! It's just so much easier and more pleasant to deal with people I already know ...
Lannis
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I tried to list my 1100 sport, got rejected, they don't give a reason. They offer a $250 professional photo shoot, maybe that's what it takes.
(https://i.ibb.co/qgsHzR7/20190727-121439.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qgsHzR7)
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I hope the buyer knows how to work on that bike and can obtain all the parts needing to keep it running.
Or alternatively, just keep it one display.
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Speaking of tasty 8-valve Guzzi's...we saw this gem at Powersports Outlet (the Guzzi dealer) in Prescott today! :cool: :boozing: :thumb: :wink: :smiley:
(https://i.ibb.co/qDYtfxY/Screen-Shot-2020-10-17-at-7-20-57-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/qDYtfxY)
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JJ,
What is the silver, red frame Guzzi, behind the Daytona RS?
Speaking of tasty 8-valve Guzzi's...we saw this gem at Powersports Outlet (the Guzzi dealer) in Prescott today! :cool: :boozing: :thumb: :wink: :smiley:
(https://i.ibb.co/qDYtfxY/Screen-Shot-2020-10-17-at-7-20-57-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/qDYtfxY)
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JJ,
What is the silver, red frame Guzzi, behind the Daytona RS?
That's the legendary "THRASHER" belonging to shop owner Jim Knaup!! *** NOT FOR SALE ***
(https://i.ibb.co/d4bF94b/IMG-2222.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d4bF94b)
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I like it^^^^
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I hope the buyer knows how to work on that bike and can obtain all the parts needing to keep it running.
Or alternatively, just keep it one display.
Centauros aren't bad to work on. They have much of the every-Guzzi simplicity of valve-adjustment and such; they've got the PITA of a dry longitudinal clutch that even a Loop has, and the watch-outs like the fueling, oil pump, and timing gears are well known and documented, and once they're sorted, they're sorted.
Mine was a solid, easy-to-live with motorcycle. But you're right, the new owner will need to be "into" it a bit and connected with other Centauro and spine-frame guys, and not just think it's a Suzuki ....
Lannis
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Surprised that the seller of the Centauro, did not replace the cracked headlight. It would be just one less thing for the commenters on BaT to bitch about.
From Portland...anyone here? Wonder what the final hammer price will be? :wink: :cool: :thumb:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-moto-guzzi-centauro-v10/
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"Lolly-Gagging" @ $4,000....cracked headlight and all...and still with 2 days to GO!! :shocked: :rolleyes: :huh:
(https://i.ibb.co/zZhqQw3/Screen-Shot-2020-10-20-at-5-47-34-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/zZhqQw3)
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Spectacular machines IMHO.
That engine...Oh that engine. :bow:
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Creeped up by just $100 this morning...with 1 day still to GO!! :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:
What will the final hammer price be?!? :rolleyes: :shocked:
(https://i.ibb.co/7gtncv0/Screen-Shot-2020-10-21-at-10-29-11-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/7gtncv0)
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Slowly moving up there!! :thumb: :cool: :wink: :smiley:
(https://i.ibb.co/m4YWbjS/Screen-Shot-2020-10-21-at-1-52-32-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/m4YWbjS)
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C'mon now....at $4400 and 18 hours left to GO!! :thumb: :cool: :wink: :smiley:
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Funny, BaT accepts a lot of pedestrian bikes like the Honda Night Hawk that listed today. These will get a lot of positive comments, and get bid up quickly, but a rarity like Centauro isn’t get much love.
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Funny, BaT accepts a lot of pedestrian bikes like the Honda Night Hawk that listed today. These will get a lot of positive comments, and get bid up quickly, but a rarity like Centauro isn’t get much love.
Just like when they were new....people either LOVED 'EM...or they completely HATED them! The poor Centauro... :wink:
There was no in between....and the same for the Victory Vision!!! :thumb: :wink: :cool:
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2 hours to go!!
(https://i.ibb.co/r4KzBTs/Screen-Shot-2020-10-22-at-11-16-49-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/r4KzBTs)
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JJ,
What is your guesstimate?
I’m leaning towards $7000-$7500.
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It just ended at $8,000!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :cool: That's good to know!!! :wink: :wink: (+5% Buyers Premium)
My previous estimate was $6,000 - $6,500!!
(https://i.ibb.co/6gDZWBD/Screen-Shot-2020-10-22-at-1-51-47-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/6gDZWBD)
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I see $9000
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Yep, $9000. Just two bidders at the end. Hard to say if this is a good buy, as these are hard to peg on pricing.
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I see $9000
*** CORRECTION *** It SOLD for $9,000!!! WOW!!!
(https://i.ibb.co/8xfvNBs/Screen-Shot-2020-10-22-at-3-29-36-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/8xfvNBs)
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Sell my Centauro for $8-$9K....add a few thou...and buy a *** NEW *** V85TT
....Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:
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And I bet your Centauro doesn’t have a cracked headlight!
Sell my Centauro for $8-$9K....add a few thou...and buy a *** NEW *** V85TT
....Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:
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And I bet your Centauro doesn’t have a cracked headlight!
No...I don't have a cracked headlight...and in fact, I have a high-performance LED bulb with a little cooling fan!! :thumb: :wink: - - - and it is BRIGHT!! :cool:
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And to think I was willing to let mine go with all the accessories for 5500 before negotiations. I have to admit I'm glad I had no takers. Hopefully this week or next I'll finally get it back in the garage.
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And to think I was willing to let mine go with all the accessories for 5500 before negotiations. I have to admit I'm glad I had no takers. Hopefully this week or next I'll finally get it back in the garage.
Say what you will about BaT...but the last two Centauro's that SOLD on that sitte brought thousands of dollars more than what I would have thought... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :thumb: :cool: (...just sayin') :wink:
(https://i.ibb.co/7pfH3kZ/Screen-Shot-2020-10-23-at-6-51-58-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/7pfH3kZ)
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The two most recent bevel drive Ducatis on BaT didn’t bid anywhere near recent comparable sales prices, and as a result didn’t reach reserve. Meanwhile BMW R100GSs are selling on BaT for $18K and Centauros for $9K. It’s a weird site for motorcycle sales, seemingly selling to people who can afford to pay over market but don’t know much about motorcycles.
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Crazy price, the ad didnt mention if the oil pump was addressed or what sort of fueling mods were performed? Dont you need a Will Creedon chip or some other sort of aftermarket wizardry to make these things ridable? (I honestly dont know)
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Dont you need a Will Creedon chip or some other sort of aftermarket wizardry to make these things ridable? (I honestly dont know)
It just needs the chip which is an easy install and Will is still selling the chip; just need to go to the COG site and he will respond in a day or two. Some day I need to change the oil pump on my Daytona but I'm going to go with the chains and a V11 oil pump.
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Crazy price, the ad didnt mention if the oil pump was addressed or what sort of fueling mods were performed? Dont you need a Will Creedon chip or some other sort of aftermarket wizardry to make these things ridable? (I honestly dont know)
Yes, and in my experience, over the last 5 years and 10,000+ miles, you should install:
* Will Creedon chip
* Joe Caruso "steel" timing / oil pump gears (replacing the stock brittle aluminum ones, which were prone to crack...and then, the engine goes "POOF!" :shocked: :rolleyes: :wink:)
* Replace the cam belts as required
* Replace electronic (solenoid) fuel petcock with a manual one
* Hyperlite tail lights / LED high performance headlight bulb
* Normal routine maintenance, oil / filter / battery / fair filter / fuel filter / ork seals / etc. etc. etc.
:thumb: :cool: :wink: :smiley:
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It just ended at $8,000!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :cool: That's good to know!!! :wink: :wink: (+5% Buyers Premium)
My previous estimate was $6,000 - $6,500!!
(https://i.ibb.co/6gDZWBD/Screen-Shot-2020-10-22-at-1-51-47-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/6gDZWBD)
Ya baby............ finally a little recognition. :grin:
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Yes, and in my experience, over the last 5 years and 10,000+ miles, you should install:
* Will Creedon chip
* Joe Caruso "steel" timing / oil pump gears (replacing the stock brittle aluminum ones, which were prone to crack...and then, the engine goes "POOF!" :shocked: :rolleyes: :wink:)
* Replace the cam belts as required
* Replace electronic (solenoid) fuel petcock with a manual one
* Hyperlite tail lights / LED high performance headlight bulb
* Normal routine maintenance, oil / filter / battery / fair filter / fuel filter / ork seals / etc. etc. etc.
:thumb: :cool: :wink: :smiley:
Brass temperature sensor holder and eliminate the colostomy bag with a (Stucci or other) crossover. Perfect.
Lannis
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Any body want to buy a Centauro? $8999.99
(https://i.ibb.co/6mQhyPR/IMG-1861.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6mQhyPR)