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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: kballowe on March 31, 2022, 04:29:45 PM
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OK, who is using 10W-60 motor oil in their late model Moto Guzzi ?
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(puts down bottle of olive oil, turns off stove)
(looks in closet at oil reserve)
What is "late model"? To me that means my '99 Bassa.
There's 15/60 in the closet.
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I put 20/50 Motul in my '01 Cal Spec.
I like oil that comes in liter bottles.
-AJ
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Me. I change the oil every 5K miles as it is easy to remember. Yea it cost a bit more but the peace of mind is worth it to me. If I did not I know every time I heard a funny noise or something not right the first thing in my mind would be......why are you so cheap and not using the right weight oiul. You really screwed up now and it will cost a lot more to fix than the few $$ you saved on an oil change. Then the noise goes away (if it was ever really there) and I continue on the ride. YRMV. :grin:
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Mobil 1 15/50 full synthetic in everything I own.
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I've been using the 10w60 in my V85 that the manual calls for.
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Well I can’t resist these……I currently use 10w60 and have for the last 45000 thousand miles between two bikes. The V7 ii which I miss and the V7 850 which I really miss and hope to announce its resurrection ( not oil related).
I used ENI 10-60 changed out frequently for the majority of the V7 ii ownership. Worked good imo and only stopped when it was unavailable. Started using Royal purple xpr in the V7 ii and it also worked good if I may say slightly better less oil missing between oil level checks conducted weekly. Also notably cleaner surfaces when checking the valves saw further evidence of good lubrication when I redid the head gaskets. Would use either.
I like 10-60 a lot have used other weights but it held up well in traffic and commuting. Recommended weight so I’m sticking with it as the price in good quality oil is not much considering my use.
Anyways my YAK lube of choice is certainly purple at moment. Appropriate weight and rating hard to go wrong. I do miss the the ENI for the logo and the stupid look on peoples faces asking me is that a Ducati? And what oil am I using. Amused me anyways…….
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Mr. Wizard (or is it Mr. whoopee?) should be the one telling US what oil to use! :grin:
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i have always used the 10w 60 in the Norge. I have about 45,000 miles so far....
Mostly I have used Motul but last time I bought some BMW 10w 60 from the auto parts store.
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Everyone following the manual..... :evil: Gotta define late year models though...... For me that's been an 07 Griso, 08 1200 Sport, 14 Norge, 16 Stornello, 17 MGX-21......Motul or iiquimoly so far. Convert gets VR1 or Brad Penn 20W50......
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Motul only in my Griso, which I have recently sold. Currently Mobile ! 15-50 or Castrol GTX 20-50 in everything, except the Ural. Super tech synthetic in the" Cossack Rig"
Rick.
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10W60 in my '03 Breva. Other than when it was unobtanium here it has been this all of it's life.
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Liquid Moly 10w-60 in my 2017 MGX.
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Redline 10-60 in the Norge and Vavoline 20-50 in the T-3. Back in 2011 when I bought my Norge new the dealer put in 10-40 at the 600 mile service. Very hot day when I picked it up. Every stop light the lasted more than a few seconds caused the triangle of death to come on. Changes quickly back to the 10-60.
GliderJohn
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Motul 10W60 in my 2018 Eldorado ( hope that's late enough :laugh: ) . Peter
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Not a late model probably by your definition, but I'm trying it out on my HiCam Daytona RS this year as it runs hot and drops pressure quickly in traffic, using Penrite full synth. Previously I used a 15/50 and in clear air at 40mph and above I'd see 58-60 psi. However on in traffic with temps up to 110-120C oil pressure drops through the floor.
On the other 2, a Sporti and LM 1000 I'm using 15/50
My experience is the 2 valve bikes run fine on 15/50 (or 20/50) but because the 4 valve runs hot and has a great deal more leak paths, it requires a thicker oil when up to temp
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There was a time when the owner's manuals recommended AGIP/ENI 10W-60 and some went to great lengths to get this particular oil. Fast forward a bit, and Moto Guzzi changed the recommendation to simply "Castrol products". Still 10W-60, though.
We had a local dealer that serviced all of the little motorbikes with 10W-50. Bel-Ray, I think.
And, what about crush washers ? Do ya'all re-use the drain plug crush washers or get new ones each time ?
Still using those aluminum ones, or changed them out for copper crush washers ?
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Eni or Silkolene 10/60 New crush aluminum if I have one if not a light wipe of three bond on both sides. Best to stay with aluminum crush on an aluminum pan. I do like the fancy ones with the rubber ring in them.
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2001 Jackal
2015 V7 MK1
both Motul 10w-60
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For those of you using Motul.....
WHICH Motul ?
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I too have been using Motul 10w60 in my 2013 V7 but I still don’t know who Ester is.
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When the folks that engineered the bike say "10W60" that's what I'll use.
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I too have been using Motul 10w60 but I still don’t know who Ester is.
This has me laughing.
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Motorex 10-60 in the 2009 Norge
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Redline 10w60 in my 08 Norge.
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Liqui-Moly 10-60 in my '14 V7 and I confess I sometimes reuse the aluminum/rubber washers...
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Yes...the dreaded "OIL THREAD!!" :laugh: :grin: :wink: :shocked: :rolleyes: :huh:
For a 1998 Moto Guzzi V11 Centauro GT:
Mobil-1 V-twin 20w50 for the engine. Mobil-1 oil filter is M1-102. For transmission and bevel, I use Mobil-1 75w90.
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I'm not telling but for the kitchen I found a different brand with high polyphenol content. Made in Morocco. :shocked: :boozing:
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When the folks that engineered the bike say "10W60" that's what I'll use.
PLUS 1 :thumb:
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Motul 10w60 7100 sg rated Kev :boozing:
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Eni or Silkolene 10/60 New crush aluminum if I have one if not a light wipe of three bond on both sides. Best to stay with aluminum crush on an aluminum pan. I do like the fancy ones with the rubber ring in them.
That Silkolene is red. Yes?
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Motul 10w60 7100 sg rated Kev :boozing:
I refuse to use Motul oils because I can't find a proper spec sheet for them. Lots of advertising junk but no detailed spec sheet with ZDDP numbers for example.
Ciao
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Re JJ's comments on the Centauro all the HiCams recommended 20/50, not to mention all the 2 V/V models as well.
It should be noted that 10/60 was not available at the time these bikes were manufactured AFAIK.
Some of the stage C HiCams run hot others less so and I have no idea why.
Monitoring temp and pressure I found 15/50 too thin to handle the higher temps on my engine.
I only move to a different grade though if I have evidence that the engine requires it.
It's not a huge job to put on a couple of gauges (temporary or permanent) and check what pressure and temp are, but few bother.
Re Phil's comment, that's why I moved away from Motul as well.
I want to know what's in the oil I'm putting into the bike and plan to either to stick with the Penrite or perhaps try Royal Purple.
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OK, who is using 10W-60 motor oil in their late model Moto Guzzi ?
Yes.
Norge and V85.
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For those of you using Motul.....
WHICH Motul ?
Motul 10 W 60 full synthetic and 90 in the gearbox and bevels.
Penrite 140 for the V85 bevels.
The ONLY time it gets something else is the intermediate change @ 10,000 k in Italy at Agostini’s.
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Motul 10 W 60 full synthetic and 90 in the gearbox and bevels.
Penrite 140 for the V85 bevels.
The ONLY time it gets something else is the intermediate change @ 10,000 k in Italy at Agostini’s.
Yes, but Motul :
5100 ?
7100 ?
8100?
other ?
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Yes, but Motul :
5100 ?
7100 ?
8100?
other ?
Always was 5100. Now 7100,
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the 5100 stopped being available.
I don’t know the difference.
My Norge now has 197,000 km and uses less than a litre every 10,000 k.
So it’s not doing it any harm.
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Note that Guzzi issued a tech bulletin quite a while ago super-seeding the old 1100 oil recommendation from the old spec to 10w-60 except for the hydro motors.
I've posted a pic of the spec sheet but it's not on my new computer anymore, so there's that.
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I do. Castrol Edge Supercar in my 2020 V7III Special. She seems happy.
Scott
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All kinds of oil info on Bob is the oil guy. https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/forums/9/1/motorcycles-and-motorcycle-lubrication (https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/forums/9/1/motorcycles-and-motorcycle-lubrication)
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Any quality 100%ester 10w60 will meet warranty requirements. Mogul 7100 is such oil made for street bikes.
The fun thing about synthetic oil is they can be made in any color and sent. Have you ever smelled Motul 7100? It smells hand soap or body lotion!
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Any quality 100%ester 10w60 will meet warranty requirements. Mogul 7100 is such oil made for street bikes.
The fun thing about synthetic oil is they can be made in any color and sent. Have you ever smelled Motul 7100? It smells hand soap or body lotion!
Never smelled Motul 7100 but I've smelled their 5100 and it smells like pine cones
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That Silkolene is red. Yes?
Dunno its always black when I drain it
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Any quality 100%ester 10w60 will meet warranty requirements. Mogul 7100 is such oil made for street bikes.
The fun thing about synthetic oil is they can be made in any color and sent. Have you ever smelled Motul 7100? It smells hand soap or body lotion!
As can mineral oils, even glow in the dark with an ultraviolet light to track oil leaks. It's only a dye additive.
Ciao
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Just for FUN... :cool: :boozing: :thumb: :bow: :wink:...a few vintage Motor Oil signs...
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I dunno.
I'm not convinced.
These are Italian motorcycles. Surely, there is something more appropriate.....
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Does that come in 10/60 or 85/90?
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Does that come in 10/60 or 85/90?
It works for everything. Crankcase, bevel box, gear box, fish, eggs, chicken, pork chops..........
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If I only collected a $100 bill every time someone made the olive oil joke on this board, I would have enough for a really fat down payment on a new Mandelo V100!
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No Italian worth their their salt would ever use olive oil labeled "extra lite" or some sense nonsense.
My Sicilian family would have you whacked if they saw that in a family members kitchen.
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No Italian worth their their salt would ever use olive oil labeled "extra lite" or some sense nonsense.
My Sicilian family would have you whacked if they saw that in a family members kitchen.
Agree with that one...100% EXTRA VIRGIN Olive Oil or nothing!! :laugh: :grin: :wink:
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First oil change, I went with mobil 1 15w50. MPH did some warranty work and they put in 10w40 Amzoil, then I went back to 15w50 Mobile 1. One very hot day in stop and go traffic the oil light came one. too be fair, the oil temp switch had been weeping so, was it the oil or sensor? Don't know.
never had another oil light come on after I changed the switch, and switched to 20w60. I suspect w50 is probably ok, as the w60 probably breaks down pretty fast with that wide weight range. However, the difference in price isn't that big and if the factory recommends w60, who am I to out think the engineers who designed the engine.
doesn't get very cold here in the swamp, but it does get hot and very humid in the summer.
I bought a case of redline 20w60 and used it till now. I used the last bottle last change, so I got some Liqui MOly 10w60 for my next change.
Old Head
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C'mon now...vintage oil cans seen at the local Antique Mall - $20-$25 EACH!!
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