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Title: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: arveno on May 05, 2015, 10:02:41 PM
The more i watch these videos the more i want one.....  how well does the fairing work ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbCxl7odxoU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3fVfRauGQc

and .... is this guy a member here ? ( he should )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hGRHazmi3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KkkTKGLJo0



Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Lannis on May 05, 2015, 10:07:52 PM
At least we know it's a genuine SP - the Veglia tach is as dead as a hammer ...  :D

Lannis
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: mach1mustang351 on May 05, 2015, 10:31:55 PM
Makes me wish mine was going  :(  I honestly have high hopes of loving it this summer and replacing my V Strom with it. 
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: JayDee24ca on May 05, 2015, 10:44:20 PM
The fairing works excellent. One the best I have ever had on any bike.  I found that even my hands are well protected from the wind.  I did replace the stock screen with a taller Gustaffson one with a kick-up though, as  I am over 6 feet in height.
JD
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 06, 2015, 05:57:56 AM
The fairing works excellent. One the best I have ever had on any bike.  I found that even my hands are well protected from the wind.  I did replace the stock screen with a taller Gustaffson one with a kick-up though, as  I am over 6 feet in height.
JD

Wat JD sez. I'm properly sized (5'8") and I've never been behind a better fairing. They had a wind tunnel and knew how to use it.  ;D
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: slopokes on May 06, 2015, 06:08:41 AM
 :+=copcar arveno, I have had three sp's and except for the finish on the early ones they are the cats meow. :BEER:
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: mtiberio on May 06, 2015, 06:22:38 AM
let me speak the heresy, having had at least 3 or 4 SP's... They blow. lower fairings interfere with your feet and side stand and dip stick and are heavy. The upper fairing just doesn't do it for me. It is also heavy and on the forks, so it affects handling, the wind blows over the top and pushes you forward. The handlebars are a horrible bend, your wrists end up at an unatural angle, and tucked up under the fairing, so alternative bends are impossible to fit properly. But otherwise a nice bike...  8^))

I will add the early ones with Lemans style pipes and foot peg hangers are the best for me. The later "NT" new type versions even though they had nikasil cylinders, had the lower touring pipes and slightly more forward foot pegs which made the clearance to the lower fairing even worse for shoe size 12 guys like me...
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: dilligaf on May 06, 2015, 06:36:49 AM
The fairing works excellent. One the best I have ever had on any bike.  I found that even my hands are well protected from the wind.  I did replace the stock screen with a taller Gustaffson one with a kick-up though, as  I am over 6 feet in height.
JD
:+1
:+=copcar arveno, I have had three sp's and except for the finish on the early ones they are the cats meow. :BEER:
:+1
Wat JD sez. I'm properly sized (5'8") and I've never been behind a better fairing. They had a wind tunnel and knew how to use it.  ;D
:+1
Summertime I remove the lowers and install a smaller windshield.  :BEER:
Matt
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: arveno on May 06, 2015, 07:08:08 AM
now, the only one i found for sale ops ....no two ...
one is in Oregon ( very well kept and a beauty on my eyes )
the other one is on e bay now but the guy want 6.5 k LOL

Gonna call the guy in Oregon and see how it goes.

btw, is there any member in Oregon ?  ;D
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: dilligaf on May 06, 2015, 07:24:43 AM
Set up for warm weather. Small windshield and no lowers.  Most of my riding.
(http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q692/2jabam3/Lunch%20at%20Sarahs/DSC_0018_zpsa8457f74.jpg) (http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/2jabam3/media/Lunch%20at%20Sarahs/DSC_0018_zpsa8457f74.jpg.html)
(http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q692/2jabam3/Chilli/DSC_0001_zps8e062068.jpg) (http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/2jabam3/media/Chilli/DSC_0001_zps8e062068.jpg.html)
Cooler weather, about three months of the year.
(http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q692/2jabam3/DSC_0001_zps35b2e4fb.jpg) (http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/2jabam3/media/DSC_0001_zps35b2e4fb.jpg.html)
Light enough to ride on the back of our Ford Explorer.
(http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q692/2jabam3/DSC_0070_zps9b0024af.jpg) (http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/2jabam3/media/DSC_0070_zps9b0024af.jpg.html)
Good luck finding one that hasn't been CafĂ©.   ::(  :BEER:
Matt
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: wrbix on May 06, 2015, 07:25:27 AM
.......now I want to be in the Alps lol.
 :+1
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: fotoguzzi on May 06, 2015, 07:26:23 AM
I built an SPEVert,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gow4iwqwLJc

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/fotoguzzi/EVert%20project/IMG_0540.jpg)
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: charlie b on May 06, 2015, 09:05:40 AM
Added an SPIII fairing to my T5.

(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j384/portablevcb/guzzi/CE966C11-A31B-45E4-8A8A-FD20707B2164.jpg)

Yes, I did cut off the bottom half.  It funneled too much heat to my legs.

I had an LMII fairing on the bike before this (little brother to the SP fairing).  It worked really well, once I put a bigger windshield on it.  But, I did not like the effect of the fairing on the bars.  Truck  turbulence was a bit weird.

So, I would suggest you look for an SPIII instead, but, that's just me :)
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Matteo on May 06, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
Arveno, I am next to Portland, wher is the bike you are interested in?
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 06, 2015, 09:46:38 AM
let me speak the heresy, having had at least 3 or 4 SP's... They blow. lower fairings interfere with your feet and side stand and dip stick and are heavy. The upper fairing just doesn't do it for me. It is also heavy and on the forks, so it affects handling, the wind blows over the top and pushes you forward. The handlebars are a horrible bend, your wrists end up at an unatural angle, and tucked up under the fairing, so alternative bends are impossible to fit properly. But otherwise a nice bike...  8^))

I will add the early ones with Lemans style pipes and foot peg hangers are the best for me. The later "NT" new type versions even though they had nikasil cylinders, had the lower touring pipes and slightly more forward foot pegs which made the clearance to the lower fairing even worse for shoe size 12 guys like me...

I can relate to some of this. Was always kneecapped by the lowers even though I'm short. Shoe size 9, so I never experienced other clearance issues. But, after riding a customer's with the stock bars and peg position, I wondered how the heck I rode my '79 450+ miles in day. Oh yeah - I was 30 years younger!  ;D Another customer's SP NT was set up perfectly - bar backs with different 'bars, custom peg mounts and Corbin seat. Much more tolerable.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 06, 2015, 11:16:57 AM
Everyone's different. I prefer the early ones with more of a LeMans riding position.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Ronkom on May 06, 2015, 12:43:09 PM
!st brand-new street bike I ever owned was an SPNT 1984. LOved it +1 on the fairing w/a 4" extension on top (later a taller Gustaffsen shield). Also Cast Lemans footpeg mounts w/ peg actually bolted in behind the hole where it belonged to move the peg back & down,(size 15s). Bike pictured did not have a fork brace,. (helped front end). Also mine had a set of Bub pipes w/ their Conti replica mufflers. Woke the motor up, and the sound..........musi c!
There's one on the BMWMOA forum right now, located in Illinois;
  http://forums.bmwmoa.org/classifieds.php?listing=1984-moto-guzzi-sp1000-197422
This was forwarded to me by Va Guzzi rider, I know nothing about the bike.
ronkom
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Don Ivey on May 06, 2015, 02:56:16 PM
Arveno, email me, I may have what you're looking for.

Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 06, 2015, 06:32:25 PM
One of my customers has his for sale. I didn't really "restore" it, just "recomissioned" it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-/291452321002?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43dbe97cea&item=291452321002 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-/291452321002?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43dbe97cea&item=291452321002)

Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: dxhall on May 06, 2015, 07:11:35 PM
I'm mildly interested in this one.  What did you think of it, and what's your opinion on the costs and benefits of dual plugging a street bike like this?
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: arveno on May 06, 2015, 10:23:52 PM
Arveno, I am next to Portland, wher is the bike you are interested in?

Hey Matteo this one , it's in Bend ... i really like it but i may have found one closer... ( i really like the color and the lafranconi competizione )

http://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/5006253496.html
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 06, 2015, 10:28:03 PM
I'm mildly interested in this one.  What did you think of it, and what's your opinion on the costs and benefits of dual plugging a street bike like this?

Over two years ago, I really can't remember much about it. I've never dual plugged a Guzzi (or any other engine) so no opinion there.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Randown on May 07, 2015, 08:32:48 AM
I didn't think the video showcased the bike well, unnecessarily using two lanes to negotiate turns at low speed? Maybe they think they are going fast? Tsk tsk.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 07, 2015, 09:38:03 AM
I didn't think the video showcased the bike well, unnecessarily using two lanes to negotiate turns at low speed? Maybe they think they are going fast? Tsk tsk.

 ;D :BEER: Really. Most people are clueless about going around a corner..
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Matteo on May 07, 2015, 11:33:14 AM
Hey Matteo this one , it's in Bend ... i really like it but i may have found one closer... ( i really like the color and the lafranconi competizione )

http://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/5006253496.html

I saw that, looks nice.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Lannis on May 07, 2015, 11:37:45 AM
Hey Matteo this one , it's in Bend ... i really like it but i may have found one closer... ( i really like the color and the lafranconi competizione )

http://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/5006253496.html

That's a pretty bike.   I've got an '83 SP-NT myself, and (especially visible in this picture), I wonder - Has ANY passenger ever said that they like that kicked-up passenger seat?    Pilot's seat, fine, but I remember that Ron and Alice K. had to give up theirs because of the seat, and I had to change the seat on mine - Fay was always sliding downhill, and the kick-up made her back ache .....

Lannis
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: arveno on May 07, 2015, 12:38:28 PM
This one is nice too.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/mcy/5011889822.html
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Arizona Wayne on May 07, 2015, 06:08:56 PM
The thing is all these older Guzzis odometers only register up to 100K miles, but keep on registering over again as if the 1st 100K never happened.   If they have long mileage they will have needed a u-joint & possible clutch replacements.   Some of these have replacement mufflers.  I'd ask how long the seller has owned them for starters and get as much info. as you can on their use of them.

I have a `81 CX100 I made into a SP by putting an euro handlebar on it, Corbin seat, detachable bags & top case, euro black crashbar.  I took the lowers off as unneeded.  With my CX fairing the wind hits me just the way I want it to w/no buffeting.  Even my hands are protected.  If it rains I just hunker down a little & @ 65 mph the rain goes over the top of me.  ;D
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Motosan on May 08, 2015, 07:40:58 PM
I probably have the only other SP around that has a custom Raceco motor in it like the one on ebay. Bought it from a member last year. Mine had the 'Killer Goose' package that Manfred offered at the time. Dual plugged, 390 cam. 90mm Weisco pistons, race cam, new top end, 40mm dell orto's, lightened flywheel, timing gears, Enduralast kit, Best part is that the bike has only had 3k miles since the motor work was done so it's super fresh. I'm putting a new exhaust on it this month to get more power.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 08, 2015, 07:59:32 PM
That's a pretty bike.   I've got an '83 SP-NT myself, and (especially visible in this picture), I wonder - Has ANY passenger ever said that they like that kicked-up passenger seat?    Pilot's seat, fine, but I remember that Ron and Alice K. had to give up theirs because of the seat, and I had to change the seat on mine - Fay was always sliding downhill, and the kick-up made her back ache .....

Lannis

That's one of Dorcia's pet peeves. Sliding downhill and a kick-up in the back.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 08, 2015, 08:17:47 PM
I probably have the only other SP around that has a custom Raceco motor in it like the one on ebay. Bought it from a member last year. Mine had the 'Killer Goose' package that Manfred offered at the time. Dual plugged, 390 cam. 90mm Weisco pistons, race cam, new top end, 40mm dell orto's, lightened flywheel, timing gears, Enduralast kit, Best part is that the bike has only had 3k miles since the motor work was done so it's super fresh. I'm putting a new exhaust on it this month to get more power.


A customer of mine has a Raceco modified SP "hot-rod" - that makes two I've had here.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: mtiberio on May 09, 2015, 12:04:30 PM
I had an SP with 94mm stroker volkswagon pistons. no idea what happened to that bike.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Lannis on May 09, 2015, 12:23:35 PM
I had an SP with 94mm stroker volkswagon pistons. no idea what happened to that bike.

While you're reminiscing about your old SPs ..... on the red-and-white '83 one you sold Paul Linn and he traded to me, do you remember whether you ever replaced the rear main seal on the engine?   It's apart now, not leaking, 40,000 miles showing, and I didn't want to fool with it if you were already in there .... ?

Lannis
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 09, 2015, 01:03:43 PM
While you're reminiscing about your old SPs ..... on the red-and-white '83 one you sold Paul Linn and he traded to me, do you remember whether you ever replaced the rear main seal on the engine?   It's apart now, not leaking, 40,000 miles showing, and I didn't want to fool with it if you were already in there .... ?

Lannis

Rear main seal is one of those things that if I can see it, I replace it.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Lannis on May 09, 2015, 01:11:19 PM
Rear main seal is one of those things that if I can see it, I replace it.

What kind of puller do you use?   Will homemade with sheet-metal screws work?   And how does the flange on the end of the crank come off?

Lannis
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Idontwantapickle on May 10, 2015, 08:24:48 PM
What kind of puller do you use?   Will homemade with sheet-metal screws work?   And how does the flange on the end of the crank come off?

Lannis

It is pretty easy to pry out. There is a tool to facilitate getting the new seal onto the crank without damage. I have that tool, if'n you end up needing to borrow PM me.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: mtiberio on May 11, 2015, 05:52:12 AM
While you're reminiscing about your old SPs ..... on the red-and-white '83 one you sold Paul Linn and he traded to me, do you remember whether you ever replaced the rear main seal on the engine?   It's apart now, not leaking, 40,000 miles showing, and I didn't want to fool with it if you were already in there .... ?

Lannis

I didn't own that bike long enough to do much to it. I got that bike and then shortly thereafter I traded it to Paul Linn for his "Elvira" (I think). I still have the bike, but about 3 of the original parts remain (frame, floorboards, headlight).
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: zedXmick on May 11, 2015, 04:28:42 PM
Does one have to "worry" about any chrome bores on these 1983 SP's? or are they iron lined.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: mtiberio on May 11, 2015, 04:47:44 PM
83 SP-NT had nikasil (so didn't 82)
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 11, 2015, 05:27:08 PM
83 SP-NT had nikasil (so didn't 82)

The '81 (imported from Italy privately) that I worked on a few years ago had Nigusil and PHFs.
Title: Re: moto guzzi 1000 SP....now i want one lol
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 12, 2015, 05:40:28 AM
79-80s had iron bores.