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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: tazio on April 08, 2016, 08:30:47 PM
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I've read the Griso reviews, heck I've been wanting one since a test ride 6yrs. ago. My ship came in this past Valentines as some of you know(thanks again wifey!!)
But last night I came upon a reference from a tester to touching starter button with one poke and it takes over from there and fires bike up!
No need to hold down button! What the?? I know I live in a cave, but I never have heard this "magic trick" mentioned before.
Is this a Guzzi wide thing or a tiny gift from the Griso gods? Auto's being the exception.
Magic trick #2 today was going 163 miles on one tank of gas, and it's still "guzzi tight" with only 1,300miles(this, with agressive riding and a run up to "the ton" today)
Anyways, some pic's from todays 200mile blast north of Atlanta,GA.
First phots for Charlie and any other MZ admirers.
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/broughsuperior/WP_20160408_012_zpstf03d15t.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/broughsuperior/media/WP_20160408_012_zpstf03d15t.jpg.html)
Photo of the run over Fort Mountain and graffiti lookout..
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/broughsuperior/WP_20160408_002_zpsol8nbi6h.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/broughsuperior/media/WP_20160408_002_zpsol8nbi6h.jpg.html)
A closer look reveals guard rail wisdom..
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/broughsuperior/WP_20160408_009_zpsglc4mrg0.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/broughsuperior/media/WP_20160408_009_zpsglc4mrg0.jpg.html)
Now, I've had the fortune(mis?)to attempt to follow a few of the faster recliners.
Humbling to be sure..
All in all, loving the mighty Griso!
~a good day
So, what say ye? Am I the only Griso owner out of the loop on this starter button magic trick?? :boozing:
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Yes ... you are :laugh: There has been some discussion about this on WG .
Dusty
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That really is a NICE looking bike :thumb:
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MZ Country... Half-a-Stelvio!
I want!
The starter thing sounds like our last three Mercedes. Engage and let go. I gather that this is not intended on the Griso?
Todd.
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MZ Country... Half-a-Stelvio!
I want!
The starter thing sounds like our last three Mercedes. Engage and let go. I gather that this is not intended on the Griso?
Todd.
Pretty sure this is normal on the Griso and 1200 Sport , if not more models .
Dusty
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With regards to one poke of the starter my Ducati Multistrada 620 was the same. You are supposed to release the starter button immediately. It will then turn over until it starts or times out. Not supposed to keep thumb on button.
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Aha! Normal.
This is why it has eluded me!
So cruzziguzzi and I are the only ones with head in sand on this? :boozing:
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Aha! Normal.
This is why it has eluded me!
So cruzziguzzi and I are the only ones with head in sand on this? :boozing:
I had no idea that this system had migrated to motorcycles but then again, why wouldn't it?
I should think that it's a bit disconcerting were one to not expect it and perhaps lift one's thumb in a change of mind.
"Wut da fuuuuuu....."
Todd.
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I had no idea that this system had migrated to motorcycles but then again, why wouldn't it?
I should think that it's a bit disconcerting were one to not expect it and perhaps lift one's thumb in a change of mind.
"Wut da fuuuuuu....."
Todd.
Like chess, make the move and remove fingers...You're committed. Lol
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Photo of the run over Fort Mountain and graffiti lookout..
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/broughsuperior/WP_20160408_002_zpsol8nbi6h.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/broughsuperior/media/WP_20160408_002_zpsol8nbi6h.jpg.html)
Beautiful shot. That was always my favorite photo angle for the Griso.
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No need to hold down button! What the?? I know I live in a cave, but I never have heard this "magic trick" mentioned before.
Is this a Guzzi wide thing or a tiny gift from the Griso gods? Auto's being the exception.
Your Stelvio did the same thing BTW.
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Your Stelvio did the same thing BTW.
Dang! :shocked:
I'd have kept it had I known THAT!!! :thewife: :boozing:
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Pretty sure this is normal on the Griso and 1200 Sport , if not more models .
Dusty
Breva 1100 too.
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If I remember rightly this feature is something that is hard coded into the map of some bikes. Certainly the early 8V's have it but I think that the later ones don't for some reason. You can, if you so desire, flash your later ECU with a map based on an earlier iteration that has the hard code and then, magically, your bike will Aquire the feature.
Mark and Paul are likely to be more accurate than me on that. All I know is my bike has it and I find it fun to show it off outside the pub on the way home! :tongue:
Pete
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Breva 1100 too.
And Norge.
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AM I THE LAST MAN ON EARTH TO FIND THIS OUT !!!
:violent1:
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AM I THE LAST MAN ON EARTH TO FIND THIS OUT !!!
:violent1:
Luigi probably doesn't know.. :smiley:
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Hey, did I tell you my bike speaks to me? .....
Must be the ONLY talking bike in the world... :tongue:
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I thought that was so if it didn't start you could just ride home on the starter :shocked:
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If I remember rightly this feature is something that is hard coded into the map of some bikes. Certainly the early 8V's have it but I think that the later ones don't for some reason. You can, if you so desire, flash your later ECU with a map based on an earlier iteration that has the hard code and then, magically, your bike will Aquire the feature.
Mark and Paul are likely to be more accurate than me on that. All I know is my bike has it and I find it fun to show it off outside the pub on the way home! :tongue:
Pete
You are correct sir! My Norge was like that as is my Stlevio. The new 1400 is not. Go figure. Maybe because the starter button also changes engine mapping, IDK???
John Henry
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I bought my 2015 Griso new this past February.
It has the magic button (just a data point)
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The earlier bike had the starter hard wired, the later ones have the start relay wired to the ECU or dash, that's why they can add this feature
Nice bike :drool:
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My nephew's Indian has the magic starter.
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First phots for Charlie and any other MZ admirers.
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/broughsuperior/WP_20160408_012_zpstf03d15t.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/broughsuperior/media/WP_20160408_012_zpstf03d15t.jpg.html)
Sometimes I do miss my Saxon Country and Silver Star.
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Pretty sure this is normal on the Griso and 1200 Sport , if not more models .
Dusty
It's not true for the recent V7 (I or II) STB models. On these bikes, if you let go of the starter button prematurely, sometimes the bike gets baulky about starting, although it eventually does. It almost acts like it's "flooded", once it even backfired loudly before finally starting.
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My 12 Griso had the magic starter my 13 Stelvio doesn't. Kinda liked it
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AM I THE LAST MAN ON EARTH TO FIND THIS OUT !!!
:violent1:
Has anyone told you about electricity and running water Taz ?
Dusty
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Has anyone told you about electricity and running water Taz ?
Dusty
Hey, and what about that little magic light inside the tail section of an 1100Sport i. ???
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If you have a late model car the same trick will work. After the first momentary contact of the ignition switch the computer takes over and starts the engine. This is especially true with late model cars that have factory remote start. Try it in your car, you might be surprised. Give the ignition switch a momentary twist and see what happens.
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Pretty sure this is normal on the Griso and 1200 Sport , if not more models .
Dusty
My '07 Norge is the same
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Beautiful shot. That was always my favorite photo angle for the Griso.
Yeah, without the stinking graffiti, unless you want to pass it off as "art"
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My '08 Norge has the magic button as well.... :cool:
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My '08 Norge has the magic button as well.... :cool:
Have you done startus interruptus, and if not, have you had any dramas ? Me not yet.
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Yeah, without the stinking graffiti, unless you want to pass it off as "art"
Agree, totally.
So everyone here had previous knowledge of the magic button?
Didn't anyone go to the garage and give it a stab for the first time to try it out??
Confess I say! :grin:
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Have you done startus interruptus, and if not, have you had any dramas ? Me not yet.
Not a problem so far...I wasn't aware the '08 Norge was a candidate for SI surgery?
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Agree, totally.
So everyone here had previous knowledge of the magic button?
Didn't anyone go to the garage and give it a stab for the first time to try it out??
Confess I say! :grin:
Don't feel too bad Tarz, rumour has it that lots of guys have trouble finding the magic button! (Oh dear, now I've Really done it!)
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Ok, I'll bite. Went out to the garage, no "magic starter" on the 12 Norge, just a plain old regular starter button that everyone's used to ......
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LOL....keep a sharp lookout for the little man in a boat, me hearties!!!
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Don't feel too bad Tarz, rumour has it that lots of guys have trouble finding the magic button! (Oh dear, now I've Really done it!)
OWNED! :bow: touché
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Not a problem so far...I wasn't aware the '08 Norge was a candidate for SI surgery?
Dunno mate, I think mine did it once but not sure, mine's an '07
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Not a problem so far...I wasn't aware the '08 Norge was a candidate for SI surgery?
Give it a few more years, any bike with the start relay fed through the ignition switch is a candidate, The starter solenoid pulls
over 40 amps and as the switch gets older the switch is unable to supply it. If you clean the contacts and add some fresh
Vaseline it will improve things. The yellow wire to the start relay is fed from one of the top 3 fuses which are supplied by the switch
providing a direct feed from the battery is an easy fix.
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Have you done startus interruptus, and if not, have you had any dramas ? Me not yet.
I added a relay on my Stelvio, although I never had the trouble. I had purchased the startus kit from MPH and discovered I couldn't use it on the '09 Stlevio. (All relays and fuses are up behind the headlight on the right side.) I installed a relay under the side cover and connected the trigger wire through it. I soldered up some ends and plugged everything together, along with a fuse in the power line. The starter button works just the same as it did before I made the modification. It has been that way for a few years now. If I were to decide to change it back, it would only take a matter of minutes.
John Henry