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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: bpreynolds on April 12, 2016, 10:16:21 PM
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Whatever happened to the Griso touring shield, anybody know? I know they were made up until a year or so ago??? Now I can't find them listed anywhere as being available for purchase. Anyone got one they want to sell?
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I picked up a used MRA windscreen with a Laminair lip that has been pretty good for long rides. Otherwise I have the Givi 770 on it.
I have something similar to this one: http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/mra-customshield-universal-windshield
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Dead stock. Shits me as the 'Flyscreen' is shit. Most newcomers are going to the Dart.
Pete
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You looking to bling out that lovely new machine already? :shocked:
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Dead stock. Shits me as the 'Flyscreen' is shit. Most newcomers are going to the Dart.
Pete
Crap!!! What I thought. I already have the Dart screen and I like it for Summer but sure wish I had the touring for the rest of the year. I now have a cheapy Spitfire shield on there that does the business mostly but is cheap, cheap, cheap and looks it too, also trembles like the mostly plastic leaf it is.
Btw, Pete, thanks for your input over on the Ghetto site about my dash. I was convinced my dash was going bad or my speedo sensor was getting wet as it as dash was repeatedly going blank. You suggested checking cables - something I should have done already - and bingo, there it was, very looose positive battery connection. I'm not totally prepared yet to say it's cured but since I tightened it down no problems yet.
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Mate, ask and help is always available. If when help is offered you act like a prick? Well......... :thumb:
Pete
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Parabellum makes a sport touring shield for the Griso. These windshields have a good reputation...
http://parabellum.com/PARABELLUM-Moto-Guzzi-Griso-Sport-Touring-Windshield-P94.aspx
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How about one of the 4-point mount Givi Universal screens? I'm using the A31 shield and D45 mount kit on my V7II Stone, works very well, and although I'm not a real fan of the look of the hand wind guard bumps, they actually give quite of bit of wind protection, at least to cold air. haven't ridden in rain yet. I look over the top of it. (I preferred the look of the A34, about the same size, but it wasn't available anywhere when I was shopping.) The mounts are a little squirrely to set up (essentially a U-joint on each end of the 4 mount arms), but once you have the alignment and screen angle that suits you, the mount is rock solid. They have a few different styles and sizes. They also have 2-point mount screens, but they are more like the size of Dart screens, and with only 2 mounting points. (I wonder how well that works at high speeds?)
http://www.giviusa.com/givi-products/windshields/universal-windshields (http://www.giviusa.com/givi-products/windshields/universal-windshields)
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p26/stevet_010/20151006_133929.jpg)
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p26/stevet_010/20151006_134412.jpg)
Steve.
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^^ I like the looks of that...looks like good coverage!
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Yeah, it's pretty good, it's working well. The top of the shield is right about neck high, the air flow is pretty clean at the helmet.
For reference, I'm 6' tall, 30" inseam, a bit taller in the upper body.
Steve.
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I strap a National Street Shield EX to my luggage and put it on when there is severe weather.
The rest of the time I just use the factory flyscreen, which the other one fits over.
Remember: "There's no substitute for square inches."
Moto
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Sending out my plea here again for someone to sell me a Guzzi specific touring screen for the Griso??? Anyone??? Anyone??
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BP.... I had to combine the mounts from the Griso Fly screen with the shield from another (can't remember now) to get a touring style shield for my G11... 8 years ago.. Due the minimal numbers of Gs sold in the US I would doubt any of the screen manufacturers have made a specific screen... sorry :(
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There are definitely specific screens for a Griso...good luck finding one used. Did you hit up Harpers?
This is pretty cool too.
http://parabellum.com/Scout-Fairing-Moto-Guzzi-Griso-P95.aspx
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There are definitely specific screens for a Griso...good luck finding one used. Did you hit up Harpers?
This is pretty cool too.
http://parabellum.com/Scout-Fairing-Moto-Guzzi-Griso-P95.aspx
Thanks, Kid. I'm mainly looking for the one that I cite in my initial post that Guzzi no longer produces.
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BP you maybe over thinking this some but hey that's what I always do :) Those Griso touring shields were somewhere around $300 in the U.S. when they were available and they were about 15" tall. They look great and they say Griso on them but they were semi-permanently mounted (if there is such a thing) in that you are not going to take it on and off very often. When I picked up a Griso that's the screen that I was looking for too but when the search came up dry I went with the Deflector DX. It's about the same size/coverage, goes on and off in seconds if don't mind leaving the handlebar mounts on, and costs 1/3 price ($90). And that comparison is useful only if you can find the touring shield which will be tough.
Here's the thing. Now that I've ridden some I've found even the Deflector DX sitting in the garage most of the time and not on the bike. I use the screen to/from work because it's all freeway, and I used it the other day on a longer trip where the Interstate was involved. But that's about it. At 70 mph and below I'm enjoying riding her just the way she was born... naked!
Oh and Onur's bar risers are a much better bang for the buck than the shield in terms of comfort.
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Wish in one hand....
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I bought my Moto Guzzi Griso Touring Screen from Teo Lamers. They used to have them in stock. Might be worth an email to see if they have any left.
Mike
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I've got a spare one. Not sure I want to sell it though. Seems I frequently crash my Griso. I may need it one day.
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Thanks to those for responding. Like Steve above, I managed to get the spare A31 Givi I had in the garage out and mounted it on the bike. Givi doesn't make bar mounts, however, that fit the Griso so I had to get out the grinder and whittle the upper mounting arms of the shield down so they would fit into the Slipstreamer Spitfire bar mounts I had handy (Slipstreamer does make bar mounts to fit 1 1/8" bars). Couple of pics. Not the best looking shield in the world but hey it works. Far and away to my eyes the Griso looks best naked or practically naked.
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc57/bpreynolds/Griso/image_zpsn54yogo4.jpeg) (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/bpreynolds/media/Griso/image_zpsn54yogo4.jpeg.html)
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc57/bpreynolds/Griso/image_zpsktjnz3nw.jpeg) (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/bpreynolds/media/Griso/image_zpsktjnz3nw.jpeg.html)
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Ay, Caramba! :shocked:
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In my opinion I would not put a shield on a Griso. Fly screen maybe but the bike looks like it should be left naked.
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The GRiSO is aesthetically pleasing.
Put away the corn cob pipe and suspenders, and step away from the Swanee Fairing Catalog (http://www.harpermoto.com/h-and-h-handlebar-mount-fairing.html)...
Have a bit of self respect...
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I was pleased being able to find a Guzzi OEM flyscreen for my Tenni Green 8vSE. I should have pulled it before selling the bike in 2015, but I'd already posted pics on eBay showing the bike with the flyscreen. Far from being a touring shield, it did make a small pocket of clear air thru the windstream. However, it's primary function, aside from aesthetics, was to keep the instrument pod 'fly-free.' Good mount, and my particular screen was a dark smoked greenish/black.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/j9eqQa/IMG_1429.jpg) (http://ibb.co/j9eqQa)
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When you're cruising down the road in the rain and its in the 50'sF out there, looks don't count for squat. Gimme a wind screen. :thewife:
For putzing around town I'll put with up no screen, lousy seat etc. But on a tour or road trip comfort wins out because fatigue can kill you.
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Quite a few people complain about wind buffeting around the head with the larger factory screen. It must be something to do with different physiques because I've never had any real problems in that regard. Now I have Onur's 15mm bar risers at normal, quasi-legal speeds, with ear plugs in of course, I sit in an almost eerily silent pool of calm air. It's very pleasant. I think the Flinders Ranges trip next week will be a good test.
Since the factory screen is no longer available the Dart screens from the UK are probably the closest competitor.
Pete
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Shortarse!
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Guilty as charged! Mainly though its 'Duck's Disease', I have a long back but short, waddling little legs!
Here are a couple of pics of The Dart on a customer's bike.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1520/26654043511_b13388b7c9_z.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1513/26694274646_55b11e0195_z.jpg)
its bigger than the factory flyscreen but not quite as large as the big factory screen.
Pete
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I don't mind the Dart.
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BP...I wonder if one of the Memphis Bullet Shades might be adaptable to the Griso...if that kind of look appeals to you...they have enough variety that one might work...just another thought if you can play around with the mounting/etc...
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This is a struggle for me.
I LOVE the look of a naked bike.
I PREFER to wear an open face helmet.
But anything longer than a couple hundred miles or colder than maybe 60F and I miss a BIG windshield.
The answer is simply to wear a FF helmet. If I do that my Dart Marlin on the V7 is all day long good in all conditions.
But I'm stubborn.. I really should get that Shark convertible helmet so I can change halfway through a given day's ride.
Anyway, I get the windshield thing. Another reason why I love the Harley detachables. I can go from a big windshield to naked in less than 30 seconds or vice versa.
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Shortarse!
I'm :shocked: I tell ya , :shocked:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
As for wind protection , we have giant grasshoppers , crickets , and red wasps by the bucketful here in Okieland , along with lots of wind and rain . Some kind of protection is nice :bike-037:
Dusty
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Appreciate all the input but the truth is, I am likely going back to a V7 and selling the G. The Griso has been a great amount of fun and it is likely the best braking, best handling motorcycle I've ever driven in my life; yet, several comfort issues specific to me are pushing me back towards the V7 that I previously enjoyed so much. Primarily - and this again is certainly not the bike's fault - I have 3 slipped discs that even with a Corbin seat, peg lowers and bar risers, start barking at me like mad and limit my time on the G to about 60 miles tops in any one sitting. With the V7 I had at least a couple 300ish mile days under my belt with no problems on my discs. But there are other issues as well; the V7 just fit me better all the way around. And besides that, the Griso seems to encourage some behavior that is not good for my health nor license record.
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Sorry to hear that Brian.
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Wow, Brian.
Would you mind educating us on the ergonomic differences. Cause to someone like me they were small.
Either way, hope you find your bliss!
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Appreciate all the input but the truth is, I am likely going back to a V7 and selling the G. The Griso has been a great amount of fun and it is likely the best braking, best handling motorcycle I've ever driven in my life; yet, several comfort issues specific to me are pushing me back towards the V7 that I previously enjoyed so much. Primarily - and this again is certainly not the bike's fault - I have 3 slipped discs that even with a Corbin seat, peg lowers and bar risers, start barking at me like mad and limit my time on the G to about 60 miles tops in any one sitting. With the V7 I had at least a couple 300ish mile days under my belt with no problems on my discs. But there are other issues as well; the V7 just fit me better all the way around. And besides that, the Griso seems to encourage some behavior that is not good for my health nor license record.
Thats a pity but at the end of the day if it doesn't work for you it doesn't work for you. Sell or trade with no regrets. Griso isn't for everyone.
Pete
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Wow, Brian.
Would you mind educating us on the ergonomic differences. Cause to someone like me they were small.
Either way, hope you find your bliss!
Kev, first let me say I do not think the Griso is a typically uncomfortable bike but I do think it may not be for everyone as Pete states (what bike is?). And, I think my issues with it are absolutely certainly more specific to me than the bike. One thing for certain is it is a phenomenal machine, especially that engine and the bike's handling. Sublime. It still astounds me. Way more solid and stable in turns than even my former Street Triple. The only bike I've ever ridden in my life that even approached it as far as handling is the much more dedicated and focused KTM 950 Supermoto I once drove. And that engine. Woof. I still can hardly believe Guzzi hasn't stuck that mill in a retro bike to spank the new Triumphs :thumb:
Because the Griso is so awesome I invested more money into it to try and make it fit "me" than I've ever put into a bike's ergonomics: Rox risers, 2" peg lowers, then later 1" peg lowers, Corbin seat, my goofy shield as pictured. In fact - and the picture of my bike and the associated shield on it here :grin: would attest - I would argue I tried to turn the Griso into something it is surely not - a more lazy and relaxed almost Goldwingish touring ride. I respect the Griso that it steadfastly refused to become this.
Couple the above with the fact that I have specific physical reasons me and the G didn't totally fit. Beginning about 10 years ago I slipped several discs in my back. Over the years I've repeatedly reinjured these discs (about once every year) though I've now (knock on wood) gotten to a place where I've developed my torso and physically active enough to keep the discs from jumping again in the last two and a half years. Even still, they don't like to be placed in certain bend/pressure points and they let me know it. After riding the Griso 65 miles several nights ago, I came home and my back was greatly relieved to get off the bike. Later at 5am I got up and they were really letting me know then. I also have a 32" inseam. My crappy back and the bike have been at odds since day one. I tried softening and then later even stiffening the rear to no back benefit. Couple my back issues and my inseam with the fact the G has higher pegs and is wider at the knees than my former V7, and with more reach to the bars that required my back to bend more than it liked even with Rox risers. As I sat on a V7 at a dealership yesterday there was a tremendous sigh of relief and lazy comfort, a feeling of home almost compared to my active and dedicated riding on the G. And even 300 plus miles a day in the saddle of the V7, back seemed to be mostly fine with it though my backside did require an Airhawk for those same feats on the V7. :grin:
So I guess what I'm saying is the ergonomic differences between a V7 and a Griso may not indeed be great to everyone, but they are certainly there, and my specific issues make them seem moreso to me.
Not for this thread but there are also other reasons, though less on the reasoning scale than those specific physical ones I mention above, that I will be going back to the V7 and these compiment the V7 and tell me what kind of rider I am today and prefer to be now.
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I have had better success adapting the Griso to me but having gone through the back problems (mostly under control now) that is one area that will dictate in very strong terms what you can and can not suffer.
Have you checked out the Norge at all? I've tried to turn the Griso into a Norge, yet for some reason I have a hard time warming up to the Norge. sigh. At least the Griso and I seem to have come to a mutual understanding so I think I'll keep her until I collect social security. :grin: Then I'll look at my options.
Also, sounds like the V9 would be a real hoot too.
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Damn, Brian: I thought women were the fickle ones....You have had more bikes lately than Tommy Manville had wives. Well, you got away a lot cheaper than he.
I hope the V-7 pushes all the right buttons for you.
Ralph
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Brian,
Thanks for that explanation.
I can relate to having reasons to pass on what seems on paper to be the superior performing bike (Griso) for diverging like a V7.
It's been a while since I rode a Griso, but I didn't realize the foot pegs were higher and thought I remembered a riding position that was more similar than different. But like you say, if it's just the right difference for your body then well who can argue with that.
Best of luck.
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Brian,
Thanks for that explanation.
I can relate to having reasons to pass on what seems on paper to be the superior performing bike (Griso) for diverging like a V7.
It's been a while since I rode a Griso, but I didn't realize the foot pegs were higher and thought I remembered a riding position that was more similar than different. But like you say, if it's just the right difference for your body then well who can argue with that.
Best of luck.
Much thanks. I once professed on here the '15 V7 Stone I then owned was the best bike for me I have ever owned or driven. I still stand by that statement. For me.
Damn, Brian: I thought women were the fickle ones....You have had more bikes lately than Tommy Manville had wives. Well, you got away a lot cheaper than he.
Ralph
Ralph, yr telling me. Even the lawn mower is nervous.
I have had better success adapting the Griso to me but having gone through the back problems (mostly under control now) that is one area that will dictate in very strong terms what you can and can not suffer.
Have you checked out the Norge at all? I've tried to turn the Griso into a Norge, yet for some reason I have a hard time warming up to the Norge. sigh. At least the Griso and I seem to have come to a mutual understanding so I think I'll keep her until I collect social security. :grin: Then I'll look at my options.
Also, sounds like the V9 would be a real hoot too.
The V9 looks like a sharp and wonderful machine. Who knows. But this go round I think I tend to favor a setup that has already proven to work well for me (V7). And too, just speaking for me here, I think I would rather enjoy the tank range on the V7 than the limited extra ponies on the V9.
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Your making the right decision for you.
Don't see many roof racks on '70 Dodge Superbee's..ha,ha
Motorcycles are so highly personal things, and you gave the mighty GRiSO
a good fight to make her work for you. Sometimes wish I'd gave my Stelvio the
same fighting chance.
The big naked roadster of mine will get a Dart Marlin for multi-day trips whether she
likes it or not!
You may miss hanging on tight with your knee's as she tries to pry the handlebar from your grip.
Sometimes its more fun to accelerate the big girl hard,
then to wait on a slow bike to spool up.
Just sayin'
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Don't test ride a Honda CB1100. I saw the prototype and was seduced. Heard it run and had to have it. After riding it she is an ever better bike. The only ding, and so far it's minor, she is not a twin. If she had a twin cylinder motor it would be perfect.
Had to lower the pegs and raise the seat; but those were minor tweaks. Tons of torque, very very easy to ride, loves the twisty bits - kinda like riding the motorcycle version of a Buick or Thunderbird. Unlike the Griso she does not induce hooligan speeds (however; if pushed, in the higher rpm range she shows a bit of Elvira :evil: ).
The main reason I choose it over the V7, I fit the CB better. Still, the V7 was not that bad and I keep looking at her.
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Already on the block. See how it goes. Might put in classifieds later.
https://louisville.craigslist.org/mcy/5564400682.html
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Damn. I so want another Griso in the USA but Jude would kill me...... :thewife:
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I'm surprised she hasn't given a good roughing-up already. :laugh:
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After Thursday night's little 'Episode'? So am I! :grin:
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Back problems, their aggravating factors, and their solutions are all highly individual. But as a general rule I would never recommend the Griso to someone with back problems. Maybe if you invested $2500 in new suspension bits it would be ok.
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Brian, that's a beautiful GRiSO and you've got it set at a VERY fair price. Good luck with the sale.
Side note to Roper: GRiSO Pinko was just stolen AGAIN, last weekend... :copcar:
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Brian, that's a beautiful GRiSO and you've got it set at a VERY fair price. Good luck with the sale.
Side note to Roper: GRiSO Pinko was just stolen AGAIN, last weekend... :Beating_A_Dead_Hors e_by_liviu :copcar:
Much thanks. We'll see how it goes. Now posted here in classifieds as well as locally on clist and advrider. If no takers it will likely go on ebay. It is truly a fantastic motorcycle.
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Side note to Roper: GRiSO Pinko was just stolen AGAIN, last weekend... :copcar:
Oh for f*cks sakes! Greg and that bike must be cursed!
Pete
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Nobody remotely cares about this nor should you but I just decided to keep this amazing machine. Too damn gorgeous and fantastic to cheapen further just to sell or trade. If my main issue with the bike is that my bad back won't tour on it then instead of getting rid of this one or trying to twist it into a touring bike, then I think all it needs is a touring partner in the garage. :boozing: :thumb: I am, however, gonna try and run the Beetle map on it and add a fly screen, possibly the Dart Marlin.
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc57/bpreynolds/Griso/image_zpsr3q2f33b.jpeg) (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/bpreynolds/media/Griso/image_zpsr3q2f33b.jpeg.html)
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Nobody remotely cares about this nor should you but I just decided to keep this amazing machine. Too damn gorgeous and fantastic to cheapen further just to sell or trade. If my main issue with the bike is that my bad back won't tour on it then instead of getting rid of this one or trying to twist it into a touring bike, then I think all it needs is a touring partner in the garage. :boozing: :thumb:
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc57/bpreynolds/Griso/image_zpsr3q2f33b.jpeg) (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/bpreynolds/media/Griso/image_zpsr3q2f33b.jpeg.html)
Great idea. I'm shocked it didn't sell at your price, it's a new bike.
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Nobody remotely cares about this nor should you but I just decided to keep this amazing machine. Too damn gorgeous and fantastic to cheapen further just to sell or trade. If my main issue with the bike is that my bad back won't tour on it then instead of getting rid of this one or trying to twist it into a touring bike, then I think all it needs is a touring partner in the garage. :boozing: :thumb:
Now you're talking!
(http://thumb.ibb.co/miQ8Tv/0218161838.jpg) (http://ibb.co/miQ8Tv)
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Now you're talking!
(http://thumb.ibb.co/miQ8Tv/0218161838.jpg) (http://ibb.co/miQ8Tv)
:1: My thoughts exactly. I was just telling my bud Ralph Glorioso on here that I "may" venture back into yet another 1100 Cali. It would be the 5th one I've ever owned. :thumb:
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Uf-dah. I sold my Cali EV because of my back. Feet forward is no way for me to ride. Funny how ergonomics is such an individual issue.
Steve.
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Zakly !! Can't take sitting back on my tail. Need that light sqeeze between
the knees and a slight forward position.
Congrats on keeping The Mighty One a little longer!!
Why give that beauty away to some tire kicker..
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Zakly !! Can't take sitting back on my tail. Need that light sqeeze between
the knees and a slight forward position.
Congrats on keeping The Mighty One a little longer!!
Why give that beauty away to some tire kicker..
Switching back and forth between those two is an experience for sure. They aggravate completely different parts of my body, but each one aggravates something. After a couple of hundred miles on the EVT my right wrist was killing me but my butt was fine. The Griso seems to target the back side.
The real differences are the power of the right wrist and the perception of speed. When I get behind that windshield on the EVT I immediately think that I'm running on one cylinder and not going anywhere; it takes a glance down to the speedo to realize that I'm doing 70mph. The feeling of power on the G is intoxicating.
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There are definitely specific screens for a Griso...good luck finding one used. Did you hit up Harpers?
This is pretty cool too.
http://parabellum.com/Scout-Fairing-Moto-Guzzi-Griso-P95.aspx
Had a parabellum scout on my T100 Bonnie, worked a treat.
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:1: My thoughts exactly. I was just telling my bud Ralph Glorioso on here that I "may" venture back into yet another 1100 Cali. It would be the 5th one I've ever owned. :thumb:
BP...I have to chuckle at the back and forth. I was foster sitting your Griso's twin for a while for my friend...gave it back to him and just bought a 2004 Cali EV a few weeks ago...but now a friend of mine wants to buy the Cali, so I'm selling it at the end of the month. I feel like my garage has a rotating door! :) Problem is I really like the Cali...so who knows, might find another one too!
Now if I could just find a nice Scura one day...I'd like to see if I'd like that bike...
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I heard the lawnmower heave a sigh of relief from here. :grin: :grin: :grin:
I guess I have kept the Breva now for twelve years because it fits like a glove. :thumb: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Nobody remotely cares about this nor should you but I just decided to keep this amazing machine. Too damn gorgeous and fantastic to cheapen further just to sell or trade. If my main issue with the bike is that my bad back won't tour on it then instead of getting rid of this one or trying to twist it into a touring bike, then I think all it needs is a touring partner in the garage. :boozing: :thumb: I am, however, gonna try and run the Beetle map on it and add a fly screen, possibly the Dart Marlin.
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc57/bpreynolds/Griso/image_zpsr3q2f33b.jpeg) (http://s212.photobucket.com/user/bpreynolds/media/Griso/image_zpsr3q2f33b.jpeg.html)
Have you tried a set of Onur's risers? I'm running the 15mm ones on my bike and it has revolutionised my comfort levels. Oddly enough it's not just my back and neck but my wrists as well that are all pain and fatigue free, even after 800km days. I'm stil using the 'Big' Guzzi screen but also have a Givi waiting in the wings if I do feel I need more coverage. Other mod is lowered pegs, only by about an inch though. With these mods and set up the wai I like it my Griso is just about perfect for touring.
Pete
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Have you tried a set of Onur's risers? I'm running the 15mm ones on my bike and it has revolutionised my comfort levels. Oddly enough it's not just my back and neck but my wrists as well that are all pain and fatigue free, even after 800km days. I'm stil using the 'Big' Guzzi screen but also have a Givi waiting in the wings if I do feel I need more coverage. Other mod is lowered pegs, only by about an inch though. With these mods and set up the wai I like it my Griso is just about perfect for touring.
Pete
Hey Pete, I have tried pivoting Rox risers on it, pulling the side panel to free some cables, and also have tried both 2" and 1" MFW position adjustable Vario pegs. As you mention, all of these greatly improved comfort. In fact, I don't think it has much to do with the bike and is more specific to my physical condition of about 3 slipped discs. But as I said, I'm mostly fine on it for jaunts of about 40-60 miles. I will just take a break and maybe do a few of my physical therapy prescribed back stretches to help. So, if you see some guy on the side of the road doing what looks like yoga, do waive :thumb: :grin: