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Title: strange tail light
Post by: atavar on April 17, 2016, 06:24:15 PM
OK, I'm weird, you said it before and I accept that, but I am going to order one of these strange tail lights that paints a red laser line across the lane behind you.  I have had great success with similar lights on bicycles.  It seems the american driver is highly conditioned not to cross a line, and painting a line on the road to give you space just might work once in a great while.. 
Less than $10 delivered.  Click the image for more info.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61IOlcLXZeL._SL1200_.jpg)[/ url] (http://www.amazon.com/Anti-Collision-Taillight-Driving-Safety-Warning/dp/B00T970UHI?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00)
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: twowings on April 17, 2016, 06:34:41 PM
Frickin' lasers, man! 
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 17, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
Keep us posted on how much your 1st traffic ticket costs.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: atavar on April 17, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
Keep us posted on how much your 1st traffic ticket costs.
What traffic ticket?  As far as I know there is no century code to prevent it.  LEO doesn't seem to mind the similar lights to either side of my bicycle.  This is just the first one I have seen that runs off 12V.  It will be interesting though.  Any LEO here feel free to chime in.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: John A on April 17, 2016, 06:40:38 PM
That should attract some hypnotized drunks and narcotics users!
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: pehayes on April 17, 2016, 06:41:22 PM
What happens if someone walks behind your stopped vehicle and looks directly at it?  Looks like a cop magnet.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: atavar on April 17, 2016, 06:42:58 PM
What happens if someone walks behind your stopped vehicle and looks directly at it?  Looks like a cop magnet.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
It's pointed down on the ground.  If I already ran over them so they'r layin' in the road looking at a low power laser is prolly the least of their worries.  lol
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: leafman60 on April 17, 2016, 07:10:47 PM
It's pointed down on the ground.  If I already ran over them so they'r layin' in the road looking at a low power laser is prolly the least of their worries.  lol

touché  lol
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: Wayne Orwig on April 17, 2016, 07:14:26 PM
I suspect that at they power level they would need to use, it will be nearly worthless in bright sunlight.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: drlapo on April 17, 2016, 07:27:54 PM
I want one
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 17, 2016, 07:47:20 PM
What traffic ticket?  As far as I know there is no century code to prevent it.  LEO doesn't seem to mind the similar lights to either side of my bicycle.  This is just the first one I have seen that runs off 12V.  It will be interesting though.  Any LEO here feel free to chime in.

LEO's don't care if I ride wheelies all day long on my bicycle. Doesn't mean its okay to do so on my motorcycle.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: rodekyll on April 17, 2016, 08:18:11 PM
Someone invented an even more stupid version of the get-back whip.  I didn't think that was possible.  Combine it with lane 'sharing' and you too can be the complete 'package'.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: wrbix on April 17, 2016, 08:53:19 PM
I could see using it with an ON switch - a signal to those already invading your personal space......otherwis e, nah.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: atavar on April 17, 2016, 10:18:19 PM
I could see using it with an ON switch - a signal to those already invading your personal space......otherwis e, nah.
Yeah, but if they're already in your space they can't even see your rear tire, much less a line on the road.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: sib on April 18, 2016, 07:09:33 AM
Makes me pine for the good old pre-"small government" days when DOT standards and regulations were actually enforced.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: keener on April 18, 2016, 07:38:11 AM
It might be a good thing , have to see one in action ...if it brings some more evident light then it would work for me especially now a days ..
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 18, 2016, 08:32:11 AM
Maybe instead of a line it could programmed for scrolling messages. Then you could  get local business's to pay you to ride around and advertise for them at intersections :thumb:

Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: Penderic on April 18, 2016, 08:51:12 AM
Could blind ya if the mount got loose.

Or attract those laser guided missles.

Other than that, I like it!  :cool:



(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/warning-laser-6402-300x200_zpsqghgit1a.png)
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: ken farr on April 18, 2016, 10:15:22 AM
I have been out for @ 7 yrs., but as far as Kalifornia is concerned, I can't think of anything that would outside of the Vehicle Code.
Red light to the rear is good to go.
Veh. Code, at least 7 yrs. ago, didn't even have the word laser in it.
It isn't distracting, imho, so no problem there, ymmv.
Maybe, maybe, too many candle power ?  I dunno.

Anything to be seen is a good thing.

As far as being a magnet for drunks and drugged drivers, I dunno.
With 30 yrs. on the highway, I've been hit with all lights on, flashing rear lights on, just 4 ways on and no lights on.  :undecided:

Edit:  reading the product description on Amazon, it does appear to be the finest Chinese import, so maybe someone would be inclined to check if it was SAE or DOT approved, but since it isn't a required lighting device, shouldn't be a problem.

Keep me posted on how this works out for you.

kjf
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: canuguzzi on April 18, 2016, 10:26:18 AM
Probably illegal in every state. Better look up the laws regarding the use of lasers. Forget the vehicle code, look up lasers in the penal code, the one that can get you arrested and prosecuted. With all the hooplah surrounding laser use I'd be very hesitant to stick that on a motorcycle.

Anyway, want to bet it attracts more people to drive closer to see what it is that staying out of your space? This isn't a bicycle along side the road or in a bike lane, you are in traffic on city and highway roads.

Neat idea but like any novelty, it seems like it would attract rather than repel.

Answer: good lights, high visibility riding gear.

What could go wrong? Mount comes loose, laser points into a car = prison.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: rocker59 on April 18, 2016, 10:40:43 AM
Probably illegal in every state. 

You're probably wrong.  Again...
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: unclepete on April 18, 2016, 10:42:53 AM
Seems almost everyone obsessing about safety is interested only in their own personal safety .
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: rocker59 on April 18, 2016, 10:43:14 AM
For those of you wondering WTF and needing a visual, these came from the bicycle world:

(http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2000/z1x01e/product_images/uploaded_images/bikelane-street1.jpg)

(http://www.luxury-goods.pl/zdjecia_do_aukcji/lampka-laser/use2.jpg)

(http://cdn.thisiswhyimbroke.com/images/bike-lane-light1-640x533.jpg)
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: rocker59 on April 18, 2016, 10:45:53 AM
Seems almost everyone obsessing about safety is interested only in their own personal safety .

Elaborate.  Please.

Who else will be concerned with my safety?

If I'm to busy to be concerned with my personal safety, is there someone out there to do it for me?
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: canuguzzi on April 18, 2016, 11:00:14 AM
You're probably wrong.  Again...

No doubt you are offering to pay the legal fees, ticket fees and such for anyone putting something like this on the back of their Guzzi right?

Somehow you got bicycles and motorcycles mixed up. Yeah,, a laser on the back of a motorcycle. Such a great idea.

Peddles came from the bicycle world too along with spandex tights helmet mounted mirrors and playing cards held on with clothes pins to make the engine sound.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: canuguzzi on April 18, 2016, 11:08:03 AM
For those of you wondering WTF and needing a visual, these came from the bicycle world:

(http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2000/z1x01e/product_images/uploaded_images/bikelane-street1.jpg)

(http://www.luxury-goods.pl/zdjecia_do_aukcji/lampka-laser/use2.jpg)

(http://cdn.thisiswhyimbroke.com/images/bike-lane-light1-640x533.jpg)

No one is wondering. :popcorn:
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: jcctx on April 18, 2016, 11:08:50 AM
If stopped, swear it is an LED "strobe"/ don't know anything about no laser!!!!!!!
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: canuguzzi on April 18, 2016, 11:12:03 AM
http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics3/Custom-Helmets-01.jpg

Helps you see the lasers.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: oldbike54 on April 18, 2016, 11:12:14 AM
 Hmm , can't find anything stating these things are illegal , are we just guessing and claiming that guess is fact ?

 Dusty
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 18, 2016, 11:23:04 AM
The dual lasers on the bicycle photo look like he's riding through Marty's tire tracks after he hit 88mph  :bike-037:
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: canuguzzi on April 18, 2016, 11:24:36 AM
Hmm , can't find anything stating these things are illegal , are we just guessing and claiming that guess is fact ?

 Dusty

Maybe you and the other dig hole, jump in and cover up missed the word "probably"?   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: rocker59 on April 18, 2016, 11:27:41 AM
Maybe you and the other dig hole, jump in and cover up missed the word "probably"?   :rolleyes:

That probably isn't going to happen. 
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: canuguzzi on April 18, 2016, 11:33:51 AM
That probably isn't going to happen.

Lets see how that laser works for ya. :gotpics:
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: canuguzzi on April 18, 2016, 11:36:32 AM
Just up your alley

http://predatorhelmetsdirect.com/wp-content/uploads/images/products/p-5314-Predator_4_laser__75116.png
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: rocker59 on April 18, 2016, 11:38:10 AM
Lets see how that laser works for ya. :gotpics:

I probably won't be installing one.

Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: oldbike54 on April 18, 2016, 11:38:52 AM
 Hmm , neither one of us "dig holes" ever said we were going to purchase a laser tail light , or that they are good idea , but pontificating on laws , especially in other states , seems a bit silly .

 Dusty
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: canuguzzi on April 18, 2016, 11:50:33 AM
Hmm , neither one of us "dig holes" ever said we were going to purchase a laser tail light , or that they are good idea , but pontificating on laws , especially in other states , seems a bit silly .

 Dusty

No one pontificated any laws. Why don't you just stop jumping to conclusions, putting words in others mouths and stop misrepresenting what others say?

Just once.

So far, every post you made on this thread is silly.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: canuguzzi on April 18, 2016, 11:53:31 AM
What I posted:

"Probably illegal in every state. Better look up the laws regarding the use of lasers. Forget the vehicle code, look up lasers in the penal code, the one that can get you arrested and prosecuted. With all the hooplah surrounding laser use I'd be very hesitant to stick that on a motorcycle."


Then you came sliding in.

" Hmm , can't find anything stating these things are illegal , are we just guessing and claiming that guess is fact ?

 Dusty"

Silly? Time for that mirror again.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: rocker59 on April 18, 2016, 11:58:07 AM
In other words, Norge Pilot is just guessing...   :cheesy:
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: oldbike54 on April 18, 2016, 11:59:43 AM
In other words, Norge Pilot is just guessing...   :cheesy:

 Yeah , and we simply must stop putting words in his mouth  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: rocker59 on April 18, 2016, 12:01:34 PM
...we simply must stop putting words in his mouth  :laugh:

 Dusty

Yep.  Probably should.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: canuguzzi on April 18, 2016, 12:17:40 PM
In other words, Norge Pilot is just guessing...   :cheesy:

Why don't you two mods stat behaving? You might think you're funny, not. First thing you did was go after my post with that inane "again" snipe. Maybe that works where you come from, cute but doesn't work. Then the other one has to jump to your defense and pile on.

There are no in other words, the posts said it, you made it personal. Grow the fk up.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: oldbike54 on April 18, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
 Nope , and you can't make me  :tongue:

 Dusty
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: rodekyll on April 18, 2016, 12:27:28 PM
Quick -- someone pontificate again on how the moderators work sooooooo hard to keep things mature and civil here.  Repeat until true.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: rocker59 on April 18, 2016, 12:36:58 PM
Why don't you two mods stat behaving? You might think you're funny, not. First thing you did was go after my post with that inane "again" snipe. Maybe that works where you come from, cute but doesn't work. Then the other one has to jump to your defense and pile on.

There are no in other words, the posts said it, you made it personal. Grow the fk up.

Quick -- someone pontificate again on how the moderators work sooooooo hard to keep things mature and civil here.  Repeat until true.

Please, I encourage the both of you, and anyone else that feels the need, to click the "report to moderator" button, or email Luap directly with your complaints regarding moderators here at Wildguzzi.

 :copcar:
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: Wayne Orwig on April 18, 2016, 01:40:17 PM
You're probably wrong.  Again...

(Spits good bourbon in screen) :laugh:
I needed a good laugh today, thanks.

Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: atavar on April 18, 2016, 03:19:03 PM
Geeze, I didn't think this would be a controversial issue..
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: oldbike54 on April 18, 2016, 04:04:04 PM
Geeze, I didn't think this would be a controversial issue..

 It's not .

 Dusty
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: charlie b on April 18, 2016, 05:01:01 PM
ROFLMAO

Ok, so first I'd recommend reading the description...and the reviews.  Not waterproof.

Second, it is 200mW in the visible which means a class 3 laser, which is dangerous when viewing the direct or reflected light.

Third, it says it is only useful in low light conditions and recommends connecting it to the fog light circuit.

Here is a set of cautions for a 200mW laser pointer from another company:

    Don't allow the laser beam to enter the eye. The laser beam is harmful to eyes, any contact will cause permanent damage. Not the laser point to the crowd, especially in the face
    Don't look directly with your eyes or using binoculars and other equipment to observe the laser beam on the remote control. Never let the laser point to a mirror or other highly reflective surfaces
    Please keep the laser pointer away from children (especially the high powered ones) in order to avoid the damage by the children's contacting
    Don't light laser pointer continually in 30 seconds, it will affect its lifetime for prolonged use
    Please remove the battery from the laser pointer when not in use
    Need to disassemble, adjust or repair, please get professional maintenance technicians
    The use of laser pointers (especially the higher powered ones) may be illegal in some countries
    Therefore, customers can buy and use it by following the local laws and regulations. In the event of resale, you also need to incorporate this notation in the product description, so that any potential buyer can be well informed before making purchasing decision
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: davedel44 on April 18, 2016, 05:10:42 PM
ROFLMAO

Ok, so first I'd recommend reading the description...and the reviews.  Not waterproof.

Second, it is 200mW in the visible which means a class 3 laser, which is dangerous when viewing the direct or reflected light.

Third, it says it is only useful in low light conditions and recommends connecting it to the fog light circuit.

Here is a set of cautions for a 200mW laser pointer from another company:

    Don't allow the laser beam to enter the eye. The laser beam is harmful to eyes, any contact will cause permanent damage. Not the laser point to the crowd, especially in the face
    Don't look directly with your eyes or using binoculars and other equipment to observe the laser beam on the remote control. Never let the laser point to a mirror or other highly reflective surfaces
    Please keep the laser pointer away from children (especially the high powered ones) in order to avoid the damage by the children's contacting
    Don't light laser pointer continually in 30 seconds, it will affect its lifetime for prolonged use
    Please remove the battery from the laser pointer when not in use
    Need to disassemble, adjust or repair, please get professional maintenance technicians
    The use of laser pointers (especially the higher powered ones) may be illegal in some countries
    Therefore, customers can buy and use it by following the local laws and regulations. In the event of resale, you also need to incorporate this notation in the product description, so that any potential buyer can be well informed before making purchasing decision

Finally a voice of reason.

Good job Charlie.

Dave
Galveston
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: oldbike54 on April 18, 2016, 05:14:58 PM
 When all else fails , read the instructions .

 Dusty
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: atavar on April 18, 2016, 05:23:57 PM
As always I appreciate not only the information but also any fun people have had with this thread. 
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 18, 2016, 05:52:41 PM
Some of us are so good at turning a molehill into a mountain
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: charlie b on April 18, 2016, 07:23:53 PM
I don't like having the higher power class III lasers around.  Too many people consider them toys.

I have worked with lasers for over 30 years now, from mW to MW (that's millions of Watts).  From the little diode jobs to ones that you can stand inside them.  I have a 75W CO2 laser in my living room.

I have also seen professionals go blind when they bypassed simple rules.  One was as simple as moving an optical mount that had a polished steel leg.  The laser beam reflected off the leg into his eye and he lost the central vision in that eye (like severe macular degeneration that happened in a millisecond).

Laws are getting tougher as the diode lasers with more power become more commonplace, and as more pilots/cops/etc report laser incidents.  It is a felony in most places to point one at someone's face.  Inadvertent illumination is a tricky one.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: twowings on April 18, 2016, 07:26:41 PM
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2012/05/Wicked-Lasers-Laser-Shark-sm-660x439.jpg)

http://www.wired.com/2012/05/wicked-lasers-shark/ (http://www.wired.com/2012/05/wicked-lasers-shark/)
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: Rox on April 18, 2016, 07:30:06 PM
Looks cool but where I live I can see a rider getting hit because the dumbass driver would be looking at the pretty little light on the ground.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: Wayne Orwig on April 18, 2016, 07:47:00 PM
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2012/05/Wicked-Lasers-Laser-Shark-sm-660x439.jpg)

http://www.wired.com/2012/05/wicked-lasers-shark/ (http://www.wired.com/2012/05/wicked-lasers-shark/)

Sharks with lasers. Awesome.

 :boozing:
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: unclepete on April 19, 2016, 08:53:34 AM
Elaborate.  Please.

Who else will be concerned with my safety?

If I'm to busy to be concerned with my personal safety, is there someone out there to do it for me?

 
I'm thinking of those who are willing to use the pulsating headlights ; they must know how distracting and annoying they are .
..or those who ride with their brights on in daytime , or those who travel slower than posted speed limit causing congestion on two lane roads forcing others to pass , all supporting their illusion of safety , or using it as an excuse , like the loud pipe folks .
Don't know about these lasers , but anything that annoys or distracts or startles other motorists reduces their safety .

   
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: rocker59 on April 19, 2016, 09:08:50 AM
 
I'm thinking of those who are willing to use the pulsating headlights ; they must know how distracting and annoying they are .
..or those who ride with their brights on in daytime , or those who travel slower than posted speed limit causing congestion on two lane roads forcing others to pass , all supporting their illusion of safety , or using it as an excuse , like the loud pipe folks .
Don't know about these lasers , but anything that annoys or distracts or startles other motorists reduces their safety .

   

Good Points.  I surely hate headlight modulators and modern bikes ridden with high beams on! 
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: tris on April 19, 2016, 09:27:01 AM
I don't like having the higher power class III lasers around.  Too many people consider them toys.

I have worked with lasers for over 30 years now, from mW to MW (that's millions of Watts).  From the little diode jobs to ones that you can stand inside them.  I have a 75W CO2 laser in my living room.

Here CB you'll know this I'm sure

Am I making this up or did I read somewhere that back when they were developing metal cutting lasers they tested them on razor blades and the plan was to measure the power in "Gillettes"

(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o593/tris51/Gillette.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/tris51/media/Gillette.jpg.html)
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: Penderic on April 19, 2016, 09:29:22 AM
Yikes. Sharks with lasers. I hate them.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/Sharks-With-Frickin-Laser-Beams-Attached-To-Their-Heads-Austin-Powers_zpspssnon7e.jpg)

Sharks. I hate them too.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/shark_zpseygwuikt.jpg)
Sometime you're the bait.

Back to the serious topic at hand!  :popcorn: Now you can pair up your bluetooth enabled motorcycle cpu to your custom projector lighting app and its show time. Wait till patterns and textures can be displayed too! Whoo hoooie!  :rolleyes:
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/LED-BIKE0LIGHTS_zpswldlbhsd.jpg)
Whoo hoooie!  :rolleyes:

Bluer! Its feeling sad time.
Title: Re: strange tail light
Post by: cruzziguzzi on April 19, 2016, 11:01:15 AM
Seems like a concept better tweaked to augment a brake light than a running-tail light.

In the end though - it's a non-starter for me, at least as far as the Calvin is concerned. Hell, I need a combination of a magic-bead-seat and sheepskin cover to generate electro-static friction in order to augment the Flintstone's alternator they put on those things. :thewife:

Higher tech to keep me safe from tailgaters? Build me up an EMP emitter to shut down the clowns trying to read the date on my helmet stickers.


Todd.