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Title: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 27, 2016, 11:59:37 AM
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/swooshdave/Guzzi/image_zps2xjxg13f.jpeg)

This is the worst of it. Looking for a reasonable price range knowing it will take a bit of bodywork. Rest of the tank is relatively decent, I think.

Questionable Indian tanks are about $400 but for a replica bike they might be acceptable.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: blackcat on August 27, 2016, 12:06:59 PM
I'd buy a repo tank from MG cycle before spending the money on that tank, unless it is for a real Sport.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: Turin on August 27, 2016, 12:19:56 PM
+1
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 27, 2016, 12:31:56 PM
I'd buy a repo tank from MG cycle before spending the money on that tank, unless it is for a real Sport.

Repops from MG are $800. Which are totally worth it for the right bike.

i have someone who could clean this one up for a very reasonable price but need to know what to offer for it.

Then I can decide which way to go.

Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: guzzista on August 27, 2016, 02:06:54 PM
The tank in the pic, unless it has already butchered...(uhm modified) may already be  a repop as the original ( second series anyway) had the little valleys and retainer bits for the aluminum badges , which was carried into the 750S/S3 models. Another option is a LM1 tank , however the gas cap closure direction points the other way. If the price on MGCycle is not to your liking , check Stein Dinse, TLM, LGC( former Stucchi) in Europe and compare.  When I got mine no tanks were available in USA and TLM had a good price and shipping was reasonable.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 27, 2016, 03:09:44 PM
I thought early tanks didn't have a badge just decals? I know the bike the tank came from so there's not many questions about its provenance.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: Turin on August 27, 2016, 03:21:30 PM
Starting bid $200.00 ?
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 27, 2016, 03:25:27 PM
Starting bid $200.00 ?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: canuck750 on August 27, 2016, 06:30:34 PM
If its fairly clean inside then $200 is a good price, I have bought rougher ones for more ($350.00). A good body man can fix it up to look like new.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: guzzista on August 27, 2016, 11:44:22 PM
200 bucks is a great start. Anyway, with  new  repops at 800, 200  bucks + leaves you plenty of room for negotiations, repairs and what not. Doesn't look like you can go wrong. 
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: pete roper on August 28, 2016, 09:35:48 AM
$200 for a dented, rusted out, 40 year old munter? Why can't I see the 'Bargain' in this?

Pete
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 28, 2016, 09:56:10 AM
$200 for a dented, rusted out, 40 year old munter? Why can't I see the 'Bargain' in this?

Pete

Well, if a reproduction is $800 and this tank can be saved for less than that one might consider it a bargain. What is your definition of a bargain?
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: pete roper on August 28, 2016, 10:10:38 AM
Something that is worth more than is paid for it! :D (Suspender twang and corn-cob pipe chew!).

Thing is with something like this tank unless you can be certain of its overall codified it's a very high risk enterprise. I'm guessing there is a VERY high chance of considerable internal rusting. You may get it repaired and beaten straight, even line it, and then find as soon as you put fuel in it the lining will lift or it may just leak like a colander!

I'm assuming this is going to be used on your T which you're going to 'Cafe'? The tank is a Tonti's crowning glory. It seems a false economy to go cheap on the tank. Not being judgemental, simply making an observation. Others will tell you what I'd be saying if I was being judgemental! :D

Pete
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: canuck750 on August 28, 2016, 10:12:19 AM
Well, if a reproduction is $800 and this tank can be saved for less than that one might consider it a bargain. What is your definition of a bargain?

I fill old tanks with Evaporust and let them sit for 3 ~ 4 weeks, they come out like new on the inside.

I have a dented Le Mans MK I tank that I am taking to a body man today for repair and painting, he uses a weld tab dent puller and an interior pry bar to get the majority of the dents out than as little filler as possible. He charges me around $500 to repair and paint so on top of the purchase price and considering his cost includes paint and a tank sealer I think saving the old tank is a bargain.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 28, 2016, 10:51:56 AM
Something that is worth more than is paid for it! :D (Suspender twang and corn-cob pipe chew!).

Thing is with something like this tank unless you can be certain of its overall codified it's a very high risk enterprise. I'm guessing there is a VERY high chance of considerable internal rusting. You may get it repaired and beaten straight, even line it, and then find as soon as you put fuel in it the lining will lift or it may just leak like a colander!

I'm assuming this is going to be used on your T which you're going to 'Cafe'? The tank is a Tonti's crowning glory. It seems a false economy to go cheap on the tank. Not being judgemental, simply making an observation. Others will tell you what I'd be saying if I was being judgemental! :D

Pete

Yes, if the costs come out the same then it's not a bargain. I figured that part out by myself.  :boozing:

An original tank has some inherent value as it came from an original bike. I guess I'm just try to judge what that might be.

A while ago I had a Norton tank that looked like it had been wrapped around a pole. Had a guy fix the tank and got it back to me in decent shape and primered for $50. I'm not expecting that again.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: arveno on August 28, 2016, 12:58:18 PM
buy an re pop made in India.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MOTO-GUZZI-Le-Mans-LEMANS-MK-2-STEEL-GAS-FUEL-PETROL-TANK-RAW-/272355958049?hash=item3f69ae1d21:g:Fb8AAOSw6n5XwtEl&vxp=mtr


btw whats wrong with the gas tank on your bike ?

U just want to built another cafe racer with V7 sport gas thank ?
 they are sooo many out there , i started to get sick of them , i like the 1000 sp/850T gas thank style better.
 ( but it is just what i think and do what you like with your bike , do not mind what i think.....)

 :boozing:
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: pete roper on August 28, 2016, 03:44:01 PM
buy an re pop made in India.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MOTO-GUZZI-Le-Mans-LEMANS-MK-2-STEEL-GAS-FUEL-PETROL-TANK-RAW-/272355958049?hash=item3f69ae1d21:g:Fb8AAOSw6n5XwtEl&vxp=mtr


btw whats wrong with the gas tank on your bike ?

U just want to built another cafe racer with V7 sport gas thank ?
 they are sooo many out there , i started to get sick of them , i like the 1000 sp/850T gas thank style better.
 ( but it is just what i think and do what you like with your bike , do not mind what i think.....)

 :boozing:

My sentiments exactly, although I love the Sport/LeMans tank the whole thing has been done to death. So much so I'll give the quoted poster a leave pass for using the letter U instead of writing You, (How hard can it be? Are you a cretin?)

Pete
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 28, 2016, 03:52:41 PM
The Sport tank has been done to death because it looks so good. Plus I want to replace my seat so if I'm replacing the seat do I want to invest in a T seat or just get a Sport seat? And if I get a Sport seat I also need a Sport tank. This is how the logic works with me. YMMV
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: pete roper on August 28, 2016, 05:05:07 PM
Nah, that's good logic.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 28, 2016, 06:29:29 PM
Nah, that's good logic.

See, I knew I could make you see my way. :-)
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on August 28, 2016, 09:05:53 PM
The Sport tank has been done to death because it looks so good. Plus I want to replace my seat so if I'm replacing the seat do I want to invest in a T seat or just get a Sport seat? And if I get a Sport seat I also need a Sport tank. This is how the logic works with me. YMMV

To use the V7 Sport seat, you need the (currently unavailable) V7 Sport rear fender.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: blackcat on August 28, 2016, 09:28:06 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTO-GUZZI-Le-Mans-LEMANS-MK-2-ALUMINUM-ALLOY-GAS-FUEL-PETROL-TANK-REP-FREE-CAP/291762959497?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38804%26meid%3D05d714b65007429988f6d65ec21d15bb%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D272355958049

Looks like decent work, but I'm always concerned about the fit of these tanks made in India. The Norton people have said that these India tanks never quite work.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 28, 2016, 09:28:25 PM
To use the V7 Sport seat, you need the (currently unavailable) V7 Sport rear fender.

So either used or mod something to work.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 28, 2016, 09:29:16 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTO-GUZZI-Le-Mans-LEMANS-MK-2-ALUMINUM-ALLOY-GAS-FUEL-PETROL-TANK-REP-FREE-CAP/291762959497?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38804%26meid%3D05d714b65007429988f6d65ec21d15bb%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D272355958049

Looks like decent work, but I'm always concerned about the fit of these tanks made in India. The Norton people have said that these India tanks never quite work.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-Le-Mans-Lemans-MK-2-Steel-Gas-Fuel-Petrol-Tank-Rep-FREE-Cap/291762957935?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38846%26meid%3D7a6a873477ad49959e39c144357bec3e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D291762959497

I anticipate it not working out of the box. Pressure testing and some tweaking might be necessary. But for the price it would be an alternative to the beat up V7 one.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: arveno on August 28, 2016, 09:33:38 PM
To use the V7 Sport seat, you need the (currently unavailable) V7 Sport rear fender.

This .
And you can easily mate the 850 t seat with a v7 sport thank.
if you do not like the 850 t stock seat , the seatguy ( john revilla )http://theseatguyjon.com/  will take care of it building whatever you like .
easier to modify the seat that find and original V7 sport rear fender.

Other option is to use a 850 le mans seat and fender. ( available but no cheap )

http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=291&products_id=3197

http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=291&products_id=535


If you like I have a V7 sport ( re pop ) seat the i will be willing to sell.

Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: arveno on August 28, 2016, 09:37:23 PM
My sentiments exactly, although I love the Sport/LeMans tank the whole thing has been done to death. So much so I'll give the quoted poster a leave pass for using the letter U instead of writing You, (How hard can it be? Are you a cretin?)

Pete

Thank u so much. lol
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: fotoguzzi on August 28, 2016, 09:42:54 PM
if the lemans tank /seat has been done to death.. how about a Sportster tear drop tank (modded to saddle the top frame tube) and a tractor seat or cushy solo police seat from a HD? drag bars on risers?
if you don't mind filling up every 90 miles.. 

I like the watermellon tank you have and isn't it the largest volume Guzzi tank?
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on August 28, 2016, 10:11:58 PM
So either used or mod something to work.

Good luck finding a used one, several folks on here have been looking for months (years?). Yes, you can "mod" something to work, it's been discussed here before.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 28, 2016, 10:12:41 PM
if the lemans tank /seat has been done to death.. how about a Sportster tear drop tank (modded to saddle the top frame tube) and a tractor seat or cushy solo police seat from a HD? drag bars on risers?
if you don't mind filling up every 90 miles.. 

I like the watermellon tank you have and isn't it the largest volume Guzzi tank?

Dunno. It's good sized. You can pick them up all day long for $50. They ain't special. As has been pointed out this isn't even the stock tank (apparently from a Convert) so really no love lost replacing it.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 30, 2016, 11:49:00 PM
Good luck finding a used one, several folks on here have been looking for months (years?). Yes, you can "mod" something to work, it's been discussed here before.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/swooshdave/Guzzi/IMG_0008_2_zpsuu6qxnly.jpg)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/swooshdave/Guzzi/image_zpsaobnjifx.jpeg)

This looks like a 850T fender and a sport seat. Thoughts?

Same bike a couple years apart.

Heck the Touring tank looks like it would fit a Sport seat.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/swooshdave/850T/2D8498C4-5C19-48FF-94EA-18733806DF09_zpsjwzcxd9f.jpg)
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: v7john on August 31, 2016, 05:02:18 AM
Neither of those is a V7Sport seat. The first one is at least mounted to the frame properly but what's going on with the one on the silver bike? This is an original 44 year-old seat.
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab317/v7johnpics/V7Sport%20Racing%20Rhino%202/DSCF2466-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: blackcat on August 31, 2016, 05:47:12 AM
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/swooshdave/Guzzi/IMG_0008_2_zpsuu6qxnly.jpg)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/swooshdave/Guzzi/image_zpsaobnjifx.jpeg)

This looks like a 850T fender and a sport seat. Thoughts?



That looks like 1000S seat and if that person needs some cash, it will fetch a pretty good penny on eBay,etc.
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: arveno on August 31, 2016, 06:50:00 AM
If you are still running chrome bores , i would not make the bike "prettier" before addressed the real engine issue.
A new seat/gas tank wont get you home.....gilardonis , yes.

just an advice , do what you please with your machine.. cheers
Marco
Title: Re: Price range for rough but salvageable V7 Sport tank?
Post by: swooshdave on August 31, 2016, 08:31:03 AM
Neither of those is a V7Sport seat. The first one is at least mounted to the frame properly but what's going on with the one on the silver bike? This is an original 44 year-old seat.


In the second picture I just laid a V7 seat on the bike to see if it would fit. It almost looks like it will.