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Title: 1000S Questions
Post by: swooshdave on September 21, 2016, 11:25:46 AM
I've seen one in person so I know they probably exist.  :tongue:

I've never seen one for sale. At least that I can remember.

How many did they make?

Do the owners ever sell them?

Would you rather have a MkI LeMans or a 1000S?

(http://www.guzzi1000s.com/www.guzzi1000s.com/2013_EN_ROUTE_files/P1030578_1.jpg)
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: guzzista on September 21, 2016, 11:50:05 AM
Its kinda like asking an alcoholic if he wants another drink. Got a LM1, rode a 1000s once , Love to have one! Differences: not many,  possibly a bit more power on the square head, a little more agility  on the short neck , short swingarm LM, ( if agile is a term one can use on Tonti Guzzis), but , at the end of the day, I , for one would like to see them both in my garage, parked next to each other.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Idontwantapickle on September 21, 2016, 11:50:29 AM
The Elusive 1000S!!
They seem to trade hands directly without advertising. There are not many. Find some owners and stay friendly with them.
I would much rather have a 1000S than an 850 Lemans.  The 1000S is more exclusive but the real reason is that it will run away and hide from an 850 Lemans.  The 1000S is a 1000 Lemans in shorts and a T shirt,  no storm trooper outfit.  I prepped and rode the first one in the States, a big valve engine with 40s. They love to fly and will flap you like a t shirt on a flagpole in a hurricane!
Hold out for one.  It's a great bike.
Hunter
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Guzzistajohn on September 21, 2016, 11:50:38 AM
I had a riding buddy that had one, green frame, big valves, it was one sweet machine. I'd love to have one but they go for mucho Denero.

Poor old Les is gone now, I wonder what happened to his old S?
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: arveno on September 21, 2016, 12:17:40 PM
yes , they come up for sale once in a while....
do you know what kind of money do they sell for ?
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: swooshdave on September 21, 2016, 12:24:35 PM
yes , they come up for sale once in a while....
do you know what kind of money do they sell for ?

I thought I'd seen $10k as a figure.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: redrider90 on September 21, 2016, 12:37:01 PM
I "test" road a green 1000S and a red Lemans V both big valve engines. The Green 1000S is is drop dead gorgeous and a blast to drive but I'd rather have the LMV for ergonomics.
I could not walk upright after squeezing my 6'5" frame into the 1000S.
I settled for a Mille in 1991 instead of the Lemans. At the time the price difference was just a few hundred $s. Still pinch myself for not getting the Lemans.  Fran at Moto America was having one of his "fire" sales also know as cash flow problems. Catch him on the right day you could drive off with a good deal.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: arveno on September 21, 2016, 12:42:22 PM
I thought I'd seen $10k as a figure.

maybe few years ago.
If you find one for 10k buy it right away.

Anyway they became too rich for my blood.

Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: canuck750 on September 21, 2016, 01:43:32 PM
I think more like $16K and up in today's dollars to get one.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Don G on September 21, 2016, 03:20:42 PM
I have an 1993 green model with 1280 original miles on it, yes that is correct 1280 miles! still has the original date coded tires on it. Originally purchased in Calgary Alberta, driven on one trip and then stored. I would consider parting with this one for cash or cash and a suitable Guzzi trade. I will see if I can get some pictures added, or if you want PM me. This bike shows as new.  DonG
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: blackcat on September 21, 2016, 03:45:23 PM
I have an 81 CX which is similar to the LMI and only because I have done some engine work to make it somewhat closer, but if we are talking from the perspective of riding, I'd take the 1000S over the LMI.

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/blackkat-1/DSC00231-1.jpg)
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/blackkat-1/IMG_0097.jpg)

A few years back someone was selling this rough version of a 1000S in PA and he was asking something like $7K, but that is from memory. I offered him $3,500 but never heard back.

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/blackkat-1/1000Sengine.jpg)
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Groover on September 21, 2016, 04:00:56 PM
I prefer the style of the 1000S if I had to pick one, but I'd take an LM1 in a heartbeat.

According to this site http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/moto%20guzzi/moto_guzzi_1000s%2089.htm

"A total of 1360 were built. 524 in 1990, 401 in 1991, 196 in 1992 and the last 84 in 1993. Its believed between 120 and 200 were imported to the United States and sold as 1991 and a 1993 models"

Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: pyoungbl on September 21, 2016, 04:42:45 PM
I had a '91 big valve 1000S.  My understanding is that only 170 units were imported/sold between '91 and '93.  Most were green frame with black but a few were orange.  The bike was like a red headed nympho who owned a liquor store....wonderful to date but not to marry.  My first ride was from Roanoke Virginia to Tampa Florida.  I thought I'd never be able to stand up straight again.  She was a fantastic, agricultural, beautiful machine that should grace a museum.  When I sold the bike it was hard to find a buyer.  That was in about 1998.  Times and tastes have changed a lot since then!

The reason the bikes were imported in '91 but not '92 was because they did not sell worth a darn.  You could still by a new one a few years later. 
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: canuck750 on September 21, 2016, 04:59:37 PM
I have an 1993 green model with 1280 original miles on it, yes that is correct 1280 miles! still has the original date coded tires on it. Originally purchased in Calgary Alberta, driven on one trip and then stored. I would consider parting with this one for cash or cash and a suitable Guzzi trade. I will see if I can get some pictures added, or if you want PM me. This bike shows as new.  DonG

PM sent,

thanks

Jim
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: swooshdave on September 21, 2016, 05:07:01 PM
PM sent,

thanks

Jim

Dammit Jim, if you snap this one up you owe me a ride on it.  :grin:
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: jas67 on September 21, 2016, 07:14:05 PM
IIRC, one just sold on ebay for about $14,500.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on September 21, 2016, 07:18:35 PM
My friend GuzziBob rides a 1000S and a T3. He seems equally fast on either, but maybe he's just trying to not make me feel bad??  :smiley:
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Cam3512 on September 21, 2016, 09:08:51 PM
I have an 1993 green model with 1280 original miles on it, yes that is correct 1280 miles! still has the original date coded tires on it. Originally purchased in Calgary Alberta, driven on one trip and then stored. I would consider parting with this one for cash or cash and a suitable Guzzi trade. I will see if I can get some pictures added, or if you want PM me. This bike shows as new.  DonG

Hear that Jim?  He's in Canada, so he must be close, right?
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: canuck750 on September 21, 2016, 09:12:13 PM
Hear that Jim?  He's in Canada, so he must be close, right?

We live very close to one another. Hmmmmmm.....
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: smdl on September 21, 2016, 10:05:20 PM
We live very close to one another. Hmmmmmm.....

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: ritratto on September 22, 2016, 12:40:41 PM
I have a later green one and would still love to have a MKI. I am slowly building something similar.

I have only ever seen one other.

It is my favorite bike ever! And everyone loves it.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2016, 01:25:38 AM
Have a '76 850 LeMans and '91 1000S.  Different rides and both fun.  Kind of like comparing a '93 Daytona and '97 Daytona RS.  Both fun and different.  Throw in a '97 1100 Sporti and well different.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: swooshdave on September 23, 2016, 11:32:21 AM
Have a '76 850 LeMans and '91 1000S.  Different rides and both fun.  Kind of like comparing a '93 Daytona and '97 Daytona RS.  Both fun and different.  Throw in a '97 1100 Sporti and well different.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/swooshdave/Oaks%20Park%202013/IMG_0001_2_zps6a5dd5b2.jpg)
Is this your bike?
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2016, 04:26:36 PM
I have a green one.  I was at the time looking to see if they did the orange one with an orange frame.  What a sight that would have been.  :grin:  The 1000S is in Kona, Hawaii.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Groover on September 23, 2016, 10:22:11 PM
I like the green ones. Does anyone know the color code for the green?
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: AH Fan on September 24, 2016, 12:48:41 AM
PM sent,

thanks

Jim

Hey Jim............. remember me I have a few rare v 11s that you might fancy. :thumb:

Pics please and your intentions on that 1000s.

regards;
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: blackcat on September 24, 2016, 10:22:53 AM
I like the green ones. Does anyone know the color code for the green?

I have used a John Deere touch up pen, and while not exact seems to work OK for minor nicks. For some reason they primed the frame in white, then sprayed it with green, so when it chips the white is sometimes revealed.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Groover on September 24, 2016, 11:01:47 AM
I have used a John Deere touch up pen, and while not exact seems to work OK for minor nicks. For some reason they primed the frame in white, then sprayed it with green, so when it chips the white is sometimes revealed.

Interesting. I wonder if they used a white base to make the green more lively. That's how you paint fluorescent colors. Good to know, thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: guzzibob on October 02, 2016, 03:26:18 AM
My friend GuzziBob rides a 1000S and a T3. He seems equally fast on either, but maybe he's just trying to not make me feel bad??  :smiley:

While there can be any number of reasons to go faster or slower from one ride to the next, rest assured that my '91 1000S has way, way more giddy-up than my T3 even though the T3 has had more performance stuff done to it and aside from correcting the atrocious stock carb jetting the S is nearly stock. I was reminded of that fact up Angeles Crest Highway on the S just yesterday, a very beautiful day up there. Not even close.

Good "talking" to ya as always Chuck.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: canuck750 on October 02, 2016, 12:13:56 PM
I can't resists a pretty face, after sharing some information and striking a deal, Don has entrusted me with his beautiful 1993 1000S.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0890_zps38xi2xql.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0890_zps38xi2xql.jpg.html)

It is like new, and the mileage is real

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0891_zps6ssoh9c9.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0891_zps6ssoh9c9.jpg.html)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0893_zpshakyemhb.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0893_zpshakyemhb.jpg.html)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0892_zpslitj920j.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0892_zpslitj920j.jpg.html)

The DNA is pretty clear here

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0894_zpsrdbgjhm7.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0894_zpsrdbgjhm7.jpg.html)

Thanks Don, I am going to look after him.

Jim
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Tom on October 02, 2016, 12:18:46 PM
In great shape! and very low mileage.  :thumb:  Congrats and have fun.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: blackcat on October 02, 2016, 01:49:09 PM
 :thumb:

Cool, so few miles.  Good luck.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Roebling3 on October 02, 2016, 02:30:13 PM
Cripes!  I'd give my 1st born for that bike.
Of course I've not seen her or her mother in 36 years - - - but you get my drift.  Green is good.  R3~
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: malik on October 02, 2016, 03:13:31 PM
I've a friend in the UK who had one for sale. It may well be still on the market.

http://www.motoguzziclub.co.uk/phpbbforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25652

(http://s35.photobucket.com/user/keithguzzi/media/P7232304_zpsqw2ym0uo.jpg.html)

Sorry - have some other photos, but the internet connection is playing up. It's a stunning resto job.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: JJ on October 02, 2016, 03:38:26 PM
This beautiful example was ridden from SOCAL to our annual N.A.R. gathering in Cottonwood in 2015, and belongs to the infamous and legendary Bob Dickman! :thumb: :1: :cool:


(http://thumb.ibb.co/cLSVAa/DSC_0040.jpg) (http://ibb.co/cLSVAa)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/hrHVAa/DSC_0041.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hrHVAa)


Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: JJ on October 02, 2016, 03:42:19 PM
This stunning "nut & bolt" restored example was seen at the New Mexico Rally in Datil in 2013, and was restored by a Guzzi enthusiast (?) in Texas. 

It was flawless and reportedly sold for over $15,000! :thumb: :cool: :1: :grin:


(http://thumb.ibb.co/i1VTwF/IMG_6433.jpg) (http://ibb.co/i1VTwF)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/csuXOv/IMG_6434.jpg) (http://ibb.co/csuXOv)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/eBZAAa/IMG_6435.jpg) (http://ibb.co/eBZAAa)
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Mark Dasher on October 02, 2016, 05:44:52 PM
 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:


Well done Jim!  Gorgeous bike!



--Mark
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Cam3512 on October 02, 2016, 05:52:20 PM
You da man Jim.  Got quite the collection of rare Tonti bikes.   Yea, I'm jealous as hell.

Trade anything away for it?
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: canuck750 on October 02, 2016, 06:10:08 PM
You da man Jim.  Got quite the collection of rare Tonti bikes.   Yea, I'm jealous as hell.

Trade anything away for it?

Thanks Cam,

I parted with a 1973 4LS Eldorado and a 850T that was destined to become a 750S clone, but once I found a real 750S the wind went out of the sails on that project. New owner will build the ultimate 750S clone, looking forward to seeing it come to life.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Green1000S on October 02, 2016, 06:19:24 PM

Congrats. its a gorgeous bike. (as you can see from my WildGuzzi name;-)

Mine went back to its original owner, I "borrowed" it for 5 years. I bet he is right now as happy as you are!
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: jas67 on October 03, 2016, 10:25:07 AM
OMG, two beauties that are both on my bucket list!
Congrats!

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0894_zpsrdbgjhm7.jpg)
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Tom on October 03, 2016, 02:32:38 PM
Hey....the wet concrete for a better pix works. :thumb:
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: canuck750 on October 03, 2016, 02:51:21 PM
Hey....the wet concrete for a better pix works. :thumb:

I need to clean up more often :grin:

Just need to show off a few more pictures of the unbelievable condition of this bike!

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0901_zpsl3csd4ru.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0901_zpsl3csd4ru.jpg.html)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0903_zpsweojzpn6.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0903_zpsweojzpn6.jpg.html)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0906_zpsnnbych8s.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0906_zpsnnbych8s.jpg.html)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0908_zpsjw4kzzf3.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0908_zpsjw4kzzf3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: blackcat on October 03, 2016, 03:44:00 PM
Wow, it makes mine look old and crummy.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: JJ on October 03, 2016, 05:46:11 PM
I need to clean up more often :grin:

Just need to show off a few more pictures of the unbelievable condition of this bike!

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0901_zpsl3csd4ru.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0901_zpsl3csd4ru.jpg.html)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0903_zpsweojzpn6.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0903_zpsweojzpn6.jpg.html)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0906_zpsnnbych8s.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0906_zpsnnbych8s.jpg.html)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1993%201000S/IMG_0908_zpsjw4kzzf3.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1993%201000S/IMG_0908_zpsjw4kzzf3.jpg.html)

Man that's CLEAN!! Are you sure that 1000S even gets ridden at all?!? (lol) :rolleyes: :shocked: :wink: :grin: :laugh: :thumb: :1: :cool:
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Cam3512 on October 03, 2016, 05:51:51 PM
Most likely the closest anyone will come today to buying a 1000S off the showroom floor.  Amazing!
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Tom on October 03, 2016, 06:23:37 PM
 :1:  Mine doesn't look that good. :embarrassed:
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: keener on October 04, 2016, 06:57:13 AM
well i would have to say....its beautiful and it is probably the best example of a 1000S  in the world today ...
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Don G on October 04, 2016, 02:04:53 PM
Well that is exactly why I did the deal with Jim, too nice for me to use. I would not want to alter it or damage it for fear of ruining something that is truly magnificent, that is someone else's job now. I would rather have something more functional from my point of view, and I did find that with this deal. Everyone is happy with the arrangement and that is truly all that matters. DonG
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Tom on October 04, 2016, 02:17:44 PM
 :1:   :thumb:
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Groover on October 04, 2016, 02:24:46 PM
I love that bike. Now, that's the only one I want. I hope my G5 never reads this post, 'cause I'll be in big trouble  :thewife:
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: keener on October 04, 2016, 08:50:07 PM
Well that is exactly why I did the deal with Jim, too nice for me to use. I would not want to alter it or damage it for fear of ruining something that is truly magnificent, that is someone else's job now. I would rather have something more functional from my point of view, and I did find that with this deal. Everyone is happy with the arrangement and that is truly all that matters. DonG

Good on you Don , its great that you kept it pristine and realized its value ...now it sounds like you will be enjoying some fine bikes aswell..
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: blackcat on October 05, 2016, 07:25:48 AM
Don,
Are you the original owner? If so, I don't know how one keeps a bike for 23 years and puts so few miles on the bike. Glad you did, but it must have been tough.
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Don G on October 05, 2016, 10:22:08 AM
No , I purchased this one from an acquaintance who a year or two ago bought it from the original owner, story was he purchased the bike new and took a trip, then parked it, was on display in a shop likely from 94 or so on. DonG
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Tom on October 05, 2016, 07:00:18 PM
 :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: 1000S Questions
Post by: Don G on October 06, 2016, 09:34:57 AM
Well , when you own strip malls etc. you don't worry about the paltry cost of a motorcycle obviously.  DonG