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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: bobrebos on March 30, 2018, 11:52:51 AM
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2014 Ram truck with 90,000 miles. Driving up north in Wisconsin from down in Tennessee and it starts to miss. Mechanic finds miss in number three cylinder, and then compression test shows about 20 in that cylinder. Dang it!!!!!!! Now its at a Ram dealership getting ready to be torn into next week. My next truck will probably be a Nissan or Toyota. No more Fords, Chevys, or Rams for this guy! :angry:
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2014 Ram truck with 90,000 miles. Driving up north in Wisconsin from down in Tennessee and it starts to miss. Mechanic finds miss in number three cylinder, and then compression test shows about 20 in that cylinder. Dang it!!!!!!! Now its at a Ram dealership getting ready to be torn into next week. My next truck will probably be a Nissan or Toyota. No more Fords, Chevys, or Rams for this guy! :angry:
That's too bad...very sorry to hear this...I would have thought a Dodge truck would go a little more than 90K before calling it quits! :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh: Obviously not...see more here:
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2016/10/ram-ranks-last-in-consumer-reports-reliability-survey.html
I have a 2011 Hyundai Tucson (SUV) with a big-4 (16V DOHC) with 123,000 trouble-free miles ("knock-on-wood"), and it still runs like a top!
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My old Chevy has 228K on it now. Uses no oil, runs like a top. All I've done is normal, a coil, a fuel pump, and recently an alternator. I find this common with my Chevies over the years, in both my pickups and Vans. We traveled when the kids had a bluegrass band, and we put 267k and 287 K on 2 Chevy vans. Sold a still good running Suburban with 257K on that one. I've always had my best luck with GM and it looks like it will stay that way. I have 3 boys driving Chevy trucks. Of course, if you just want to use it as a car that can haul your 4 wheeler, get a Toyota, it won't matter. I've never had a frame rot so bad on a truck only a few years old that the spare tire fell off on the road.
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2014 Ram truck with 90,000 miles. Driving up north in Wisconsin from down in Tennessee and it starts to miss. Mechanic finds miss in number three cylinder, and then compression test shows about 20 in that cylinder. Dang it!!!!!!! Now its at a Ram dealership getting ready to be torn into next week. My next truck will probably be a Nissan or Toyota. No more Fords, Chevys, or Rams for this guy! :angry:
Which engine are your running??
5.7
5.7 MDS
6.4
6.7 Cummins
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Which engine are your running??
5.7
5.7 MDS
6.4
6.7 Cummins
5.7 liter hemi v-8
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That's a bummer that it dropped a cylinder. I'll be curious to hear a post-mortem from you, once it's fixed.
Wonder if the piston rings went bad, or if the cylinder head gasket did.
Is your 5.7 Hemi the "MDS" Multi-Displacement version, or the normal 5.7 Hemi?
If MDS, I wonder if it was a contributor.
Hmmm.
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That's a bummer that it dropped a cylinder. I'll be curious to hear a post-mortem from you, once it's fixed.
Wonder if the piston rings went bad, or if the cylinder head gasket did.
Is your 5.7 Hemi the "MDS" Multi-Displacement version, or the normal 5.7 Hemi?
If MDS, I wonder if it was a contributor.
Hmmm.
Its not the MDS just normal 5.7 Hemi. They are tearing into it next week so I will know more then.
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The straight 6 was more reliable. My Chevy Silverado has strong drivetrain sidelined from electrical. The Nissan Frontier not sure what's wrong. Domestic or import. You roll the dice. :tongue:
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I'm impressed you put 90k on it in a few years. I have a 14 Ram Van and it is just turning 22k miles. I figure at this rate, it may last me the rest of my life!
Please let us know what failed on it! Hope they make quick and quality work of it for you.
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Curious if they did a leakdown test to determine if it's in the valves or piston/headgasket. Broken valve spring on intakes has been a problem since 2011.
Cam and Lifter problems but not as common. Hope it's the least expensive route.
Paul B :boozing:
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I don�t think that�s the norm for the hemi Anserson I own an 07. I personally know of several of these with 150-200k flawless miles. A lot of factors can be involved in your issue without it being a poor product in general. I�d say all the brands have their exceptions with this type of issue. Hope the best for you but I think your greatest worry is the issue of a dealership doing the repairs at 100.00 bucks an hour:(
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The Nissan Frontier not sure what's wrong. :tongue:
Not to hijack the thread but my Frontier is over 180,000 miles and running fine with occasional help from this forum:
http://www.clubfrontier.org/
Recently diagnosed a broken crank sensor and showed me how to fix it.
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Earlier 5.7 Hemi had a habit of breaking valve springs ......Supposedly it was fixed well before 2014.....Japanese brand name trucks also can have problems..
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Earlier 5.7 Hemi had a habit of breaking valve springs ......Supposedly it was fixed well before 2014.....Japanese brand name trucks also can have problems..
Yeah I know Japanese brands have problems also. I was just blowing off steam when I said no more Chevy's, Fords, or Rams for me. Il get it fixed and keep running her down the road hopefully for another 150,000 miles or so....... :grin:
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Dodge? was it rusted out yet?
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Is the hemi used in PU's the same engine used in Chargers ? Our local PD is moving away from Chargers and going back to Chevrolets because of maintenance costs .
Dusty
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Is the hemi used in PU's the same engine used in Chargers ? Our local PD is moving away from Chargers and going back to Chevrolets because of maintenance costs .
Dusty
Same basic engine...... Keep in mind that GM, Ford and Ram combined sell about 1.5 million new full size trucks every year...I believe Toyota and Nissan combined sell less than 200,000 full size trucks a year...By sheer number the US brand trucks will have more problems...
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Yeah I know Japanese brands have problems also. I was just blowing off steam when I said no more Chevy's, Fords, or Rams for me. Il get it fixed and keep running her down the road hopefully for another 150,000 miles or so....... :grin:
You better get the old truck going for a back-up. You getting back in time for the get-together?
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You better get the old truck going for a back-up. You getting back in time for the get-together?
Il be back for the get together. Are you coming to it or not?????
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This week the dealership tears into the engine to see what is wrong.
Anybody want to play the guessing game and guess?
Symptoms....I was driving down the road when it began to miss slightly. I pulled into a garage, they discovered cylinder #3 misfiring....they swapped out coil pack for that and cylinder #1 and no difference....cylin der three still misfiring, checked plugs and finally checked compression which was 20, in cylinder #3, so it is not good. 2014 Ram 1500 5.7 Liter Regular Hemi motor, Gasoline.
It was then towed to the dealership for further diagnosis/teardown. Anybody want to guess and I'l post an update when I know......Winner gets nothing in cheap Guzzi fashion!!
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Hopefully I'm totally wrong for your pocket books sake but here goes:
A) # 3 Intake valve spring Broken
B) #3 Lifter damaged/seized
C) #3 cam lobe wiped because of B
D) All of the above
Paul B :boozing: :popcorn:
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A leak down would have told the tale, but I'll guess broken ring/scored cylinder wall.
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Is a hemi running on 7 cylinders a "semi" hemi ?
Dusty
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Is a hemi running on 7 cylinders a "semi" hemi ?
Dusty
You do NOT want to know the words I am using for it right now!! :evil:
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You do NOT want to know the words I am using for it right now!! :evil:
You can PM me with the details , but we can all imagine :grin:
Dusty
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valve spring
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My 2005 Ram has the V6 and 6 speed manual. 155k miles and I've only changed the oil (a lot of times).
The engine runs like new though suspension and electrical are starting to feel the miles.
Sorry about your hemi failure. I have also heard the highway patrols were giving up their Chargers, the reason being that Dodge sacrificed endurance for higher performance numbers.
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my dad had 94 that did the same thing, it turned out to be a blown head gasket, dodge fixed it under warranty, the truck is now my brothers and it think is got about 220k on it.
my 94 is a Cummings, it just passed 350k, drive train is sold, rest of truck has had its issues. Mostly, AC problems and lots of ball joints. Its a pain to replace that evaporator or heater coil. I know the newer trucks are all the same, but its a poor design to have to pull the dash out to replace these parts.
while you can get a lemon with any brand, I would imagine any of the big 3 or Japanese trucks are all going to be pretty reliable.
Old Head
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I vote valve spring.
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I vote valve spring.
C'mon, Tom.. valve spring is too easy..
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I'm not a mechanic. I don't even play one. :grin:
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So....I am NOT a major engine rebuilding guy. Im not an idiot either and I understand the workings of an Internal Combustian Engine.
The dealership called me back and said Cylinder #3 had a stuck valve and broken valve guide springs. They said they also are putting in a new head which is being overnighted to them from another dealership because they are on backorder through Chrysler.
So they are estimating two-three days to completion.
So stuck valve with broken valve springs and a new head is what they said. They further said they would not do a re-conditioned head or send the head out for reconditioning because the vehicle is under warranty and a new head is what RAM stated needed to be done.
Hope Im getting all the info correct.......
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Hopefully I'm totally wrong for your pocket books sake but here goes:
A) # 3 Intake valve spring Broken
B) #3 Lifter damaged/seized
C) #3 cam lobe wiped because of B
D) All of the above
Paul B :boozing: :popcorn:
A & B---- Winner, winner, chicken dinner!!
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So this will be a warranty repair? Did you buy an extended warranty or does the powertrain warranty go out that far? (in years & miles)
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Glad to hear it's warranty. I know your out some time and trouble but it could on your dime and that would suck.
Paul B :boozing:
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So this will be a warranty repair? Did you buy an extended warranty or does the powertrain warranty go out that far? (in years & miles)
When i bought the truck new it had 100,000 miles, 5 year powertrain warranty. It has about 90,000 miles on it and the five year will be expired in July of 2019.
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When i bought the truck new it had 100,000 miles, 5 year powertrain warranty. It has about 90,000 miles on it and the five year will be expired in July of 2019.
Good deal for you. The reliability lab misjudged by 10000 miles, though. :evil: The idea is to get it *through* the warranty period..
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Good deal for you. The reliability lab misjudged by 10000 miles, though. :evil: The idea is to get it *through* the warranty period..
Yep....now I have to think and try to decide if it is going to be a re-occurring problem and whether i should trade it in/sell it, and buy something else, or just keep it until it blows up! lol........
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dump it, it'll rust out soon. it's a Dodge
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Dont look at any Rustarados....
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Change number 37. The dealership just called back and stated they also discovered a hole in a piston and a crack in the block, so new engine time........ :angry:
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Change number 37. The dealership just called back and stated they also discovered a hole in a piston and a crack in the block, so new engine time........ :angry:
I figured with that kind of compression reading it was more serious than a valve spring..
A leak down would have told the tale, but I'll guess broken ring/scored cylinder wall.
New engine.. :thumb:
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Change number 37. The dealership just called back and stated they also discovered a hole in a piston and a crack in the block, so new engine time........ :angry:
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Looks like you will be getting a brand new engine under warranty. :thumb:
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Looks like you will be getting a brand new engine under warranty. :thumb:
Yep originally truck came with 5 year/100,000 mile powertrain warranty. The new engine comes with three year/100,000 mile warranty. Not as good but its better than zero!!
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:thumb: Good thing the dealer doesn't care about cost since it goes back to the factory.
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1. Valve spring fails- due to installed rusty, bad luck, etc.
2. Valve stays open and piston hammers it cockeyed. Valve sticks in guide.
3. Piston gets damaged- hole, or weak spot.
4. Piston cracks from impact/heat cycles. Expands/sticks/cocks in bore.
5. Cocked piston cracks cylinder wall.
6. You win.
Ask your auto insurance agent if you have lodging coverage due to breakdown.
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So....a question I have. Are these trucks inherently bad? Is it just going to blow up another engine? Would you look for a different make truck and dump this one, or ride out the new engine warranty of 100,000 more miles and 3 more years and keep this one ?? It is a 2014, 5.7 HEMI, with 90000 miles (0 on new engine)......
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Since you're not paying for the new engine and it's warranty, I'm guessing the warranty on it will expire in 10K when the truck hits 100K. you still get a new engine tho.
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So....a question I have. Are these trucks inherently bad? Is it just going to blow up another engine? Would you look for a different make truck and dump this one, or ride out the new engine warranty of 100,000 more miles and 3 more years and keep this one ?? It is a 2014, 5.7 HEMI, with 90000 miles (0 on new engine)......
Those engines are as good as any. You just got some bad luck. If the rest of the truck is still pretty nice and you like it, why get a payment? Figure the transmission will need replacement in another 50k miles.
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Since you're not paying for the new engine and it's warranty, I'm guessing the warranty on it will expire in 10K when the truck hits 100K. you still get a new engine tho.
Dealership says new engine comes with NEW 100,000 mile 3 year warranty on the engine. Il see what I get in writing.
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Find out if it's transferable too. Maybe drive it till the warranty is close to the end then sell. (corrected)
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Find out it it's transferable too. Maybe drive it till the warranty is close to the then sell.
^^ THIS
You're getting several thousand dollars worth of value for nearly free...keep driving the thing! New trucks ain't so cheap anymore...
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^^ THIS
You're getting several thousand dollars worth of value for nearly free...keep driving the thing! New trucks ain't so cheap anymore...
This! :thumb:
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I corrected my post had to edit. Sorry guys.
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When i bought the truck new it had 100,000 miles, 5 year powertrain warranty. It has about 90,000 miles on it and the five year will be expired in July of 2019.
...I don't usually go in for this, however, go buy a lottery ticket, karma is on your side....
kjf
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...I don't usually go in for this, however, go buy a lottery ticket, karma is on your side....
kjf
Yep,, things turned out pretty darn well considering. I dont have the truck back yet though so we shall see how it all comes out when done! :grin:
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Let them know that you want the a/c to work too.
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I got my truck back today. Dealership installed a brand new 5.7 liter hemi engine into my 2014 Ram Truck under warranty. They did it in 3 days!!! Awesome service and I am one lucky guy!!!! :grin:
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Drive on, pilgrim! :thumb:
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Make sure to check for pinched hoses and missing fasteners. The kids they use for techs get rushed and can miss stuff!
I bought a new RAM Pickup back in '04. It was a great truck until some kid in his grandma's Jeep wagon totaled it for me.