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Jackal Charging System
« on: August 25, 2020, 08:16:17 AM »
Now this Jackal has stopped Charging the battery. I'm not having much luck finding information in these newer than the T/T3 systems. So any REAL SIMPLE step by step diagnostic help would be greatly appreciated. 
Thanks guys, some day I will have this thing road worthy again and I will owe you all a beer.
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Re: Jackal Charging System
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2020, 08:20:40 AM »
That uses the Ducati system.

It has two yellow wires coming from the alternator. The bullet connectors going to the rectifier/regulator often corrode and overheat. Make sure those are clean and tight.
The rectifier/regulator is not the most reliable bit on the planet. Often a diode goes out, and you get a weak charge, or they completely fail. Aftermarket replacements are often more reliable.
And of course the charge output passed through a fuse. Likely a 30 amp,  which you want to verify is good.

I found this fault finder. But there used to be a simpler one that just applied to that system.
https://www.euromotoelectrics.com/kb_results.asp?ID=121

« Last Edit: August 25, 2020, 08:29:34 AM by Wayne Orwig »
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Re: Jackal Charging System
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2020, 08:21:42 AM »
thank you so much.
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Re: Jackal Charging System
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2020, 08:56:55 AM »
Wayne, thanks for that hit list of things to check.

My Jackal has started being a bit weak after sitting for a couple of weeks (11.8) and won't kick over. I wonder if that corrosion you mention could be the culprit.

I know, I know....the real culprit is letting the bike sit. This summer at work has been unlike any for quite some time .....
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Re: Jackal Charging System
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2020, 09:11:16 AM »
Wayne, I have seen mention of the 30 amp fuse but have no idea where it is located. My diagram shows (all fuses 15 amp)
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Re: Jackal Charging System
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2020, 09:16:03 AM »
so if I unplug the two yellow wires and try for an electric value across or to ground what might I hope to find?
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Re: Jackal Charging System
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2020, 09:27:33 AM »
so if I unplug the two yellow wires and try for an electric value across or to ground what might I hope to find?

50 volts AC at around 4000rpm across the two. I don't think the jackal has the 30amp fuse that came latter if I recall correctly.
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Re: Jackal Charging System
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2020, 10:42:06 AM »
50 volts AC at around 4000rpm across the two. I don't think the jackal has the 30amp fuse that came latter if I recall correctly.
Thanks we will start with that.
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Re: Jackal Charging System
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2020, 10:46:53 AM »
50 volts AC at around 4000rpm across the two. I don't think the jackal has the 30amp fuse that came latter if I recall correctly.

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Re: Jackal Charging System
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2020, 12:37:04 PM »
We are out of town for a couple weeks. Will let you know what we find when we return.
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Re: Jackal Charging System
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2020, 12:46:59 PM »
I don't think the jackal has the 30amp fuse that came latter if I recall correctly.

Yes, I recall that they didn't all get fused did they.
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Re: Jackal Charging System
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2020, 12:48:52 PM »
so if I unplug the two yellow wires and try for an electric value across or to ground what might I hope to find?

It should be floating, as in open circuit to ground. A somewhat high AC voltage when unplugged at high revs, as Murray noted.
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