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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2019, 08:42:07 PM »
WOW! That is steep. As you pointed out, Honda in this case is getting a pretty penny for this. I wonder what the street value is for the thing. (Cats in general.)

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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2019, 06:58:28 AM »
hi all,

just got the car back from the shop. the whole job came to $2,647 and included the usual repair shenanigans of charging ludicrous amounts for nuts and bolts. the thing that really stands out though is the listed charge for the honda oem catalytic converter. anyone wanna guesss. ok, don't.  it was $1,982 for the converter alone. i was stunned. out of pocket i was only liable for my $500 deductible but the cost of the cat from honda was ridiculous.  in CA we need to use CA approved converters and they can be had online for varying prices but a reasonable average was around $350 so you can see that honda's price is wildly over the mark.

i asked the guy at the shop whether or not painting it orange and etching in my car license # would help. he chortled a bit and said "no, not really."

I can't imagine what insurance must cost you.  I know my insurance company factors in whether the vehicles are parked in a garage and/or behind a security gate.
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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2019, 07:52:32 AM »
The thieves removed almost the entire interior in about 3 minutes per the security cameras that the desk clerk apparently wasn't watching 

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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2019, 07:53:49 AM »
WOW! That is steep. As you pointed out, Honda in this case is getting a pretty penny for this. I wonder what the street value is for the thing. (Cats in general.)

John Henry

My guess is it wasn't sold for scrap, but used in a repair/replacement where they are able to offer the customer a discount for the OEM Honda part, and it's all profit for them.
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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2019, 08:11:12 AM »
So the real crime happened at the dealership!

NAPA sells direct fit CARB compliant Cat Convert for $$634.99 Non-CARB or universal fir cat converters are in the $200  to $500 range

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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2019, 09:05:19 AM »
Use your garage or install a gate at your property's entrance. Lighted parking areas discourage thefts, too. Back when I was kinda poor, I even made up some fake alarm system labels to stick all over my place. I was the only resident on my street that didn't get burglarized (it was an urban neighborhood). You don't have to have perfect security; just enough to make them move to easier marks.
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« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2019, 11:51:31 AM »
Use your garage or install a gate at your property's entrance. Lighted parking areas discourage thefts, too. Back when I was kinda poor, I even made up some fake alarm system labels to stick all over my place. I was the only resident on my street that didn't get burglarized (it was an urban neighborhood). You don't have to have perfect security; just enough to make them move to easier marks.

This is all great advise but for the millions who live in apartments, condo's, manufactured housing that do not have a garage its moot. Not everybody lives down an isolated lane where a gat will work. If I put a gate at the end of my driveway chances are great that I would drive around it through the grass to avoid opening and closing it.

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« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2019, 12:11:17 PM »
If I put a gate at the end of my driveway chances are great that I would drive around it through the grass to avoid opening and closing it.

I would believe that.   :grin:

For people like you, Ghost Controls invented this:  https://ghostcontrols.com/build-a-system-2/

After 10 years of opening and closing the gate, my wife decided we needed one.  That is after seeing many of her girlfriends using them.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2019, 02:51:07 PM »
My problem wouldn't be so much the gate but rather I live in a development and my yard is not fenced in. To either side of my driveway is lawn that is level with the driveway.

It'd be kind of like this:

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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2019, 03:59:32 PM »
Maybe just a small rectangular plastic box, with a blinking light and wires coming out of it attached to the cat con, secured to the underside of the car. "It's wired with explosives, I ain't touching it."  :grin:
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« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2019, 04:25:03 PM »
Sad, no idea why people do such things.

Well, this thread has given a lot of reasons why!   :shocked: 

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« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2019, 06:29:25 PM »
Well, this thread has given a lot of reasons why!   :shocked: 


yeah, the oem price left me gobsmacked. as for my insurance rates - i am a bit under $800 a year for a 2005 honda element and i have comprehensive. i am sure there is an urban living penalty and a ding for no garage, although they never asked about my parking when i got the policy.

i have gotten various views when i talk to mechanics and tow truck drivers but it was pointed out to me (after i asked "why would they steal a cat. from an older car?") that the thieves don't care about the age of the cat. they are not going after the cat itself - so that it can be used in another vehicle. no indeed, they are cracking them open and then selling the precious metal packet to the recyclers. this avoids any and all problems with the possible serial number identification of the cat as well. if they have the tools to cut out the cat. they have the tools to crack it open and scoop out its precious metal goodness. f*(kers.


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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2019, 07:12:06 PM »
yeah, the oem price left me gobsmacked. as for my insurance rates - i am a bit under $800 a year for a 2005 honda element and i have comprehensive. i am sure there is an urban living penalty and a ding for no garage, although they never asked about my parking when i got the policy.

i have gotten various views when i talk to mechanics and tow truck drivers but it was pointed out to me (after i asked "why would they steal a cat. from an older car?") that the thieves don't care about the age of the cat. they are not going after the cat itself - so that it can be used in another vehicle. no indeed, they are cracking them open and then selling the precious metal packet to the recyclers. this avoids any and all problems with the possible serial number identification of the cat as well. if they have the tools to cut out the cat. they have the tools to crack it open and scoop out its precious metal goodness. f*(kers.

Yep.  The last time copper went high thieves were pulling the wires out of new construction and abandoned homes.  Sometimes lake homes closed up for the winter.
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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2019, 08:00:32 PM »
Good grief man,
Ever herd of insurance?

Pretty simple.....

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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2019, 04:41:26 PM »
Good grief man,
Ever herd of insurance?

Pretty simple.....

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Ahhhh, why didn't i think of that? thanks kirby and welcome to the list. 

with that i think this thread has drawn to a natural point of closure. thanks all
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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2019, 05:10:03 PM »
    Hopefully precautions can be taken as any officer of the law will tell you " They'll Be Back".   
 
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« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2019, 05:52:43 PM »

Let's have a pole... :cool:      I say 2 weeks. :popcorn:

hah! ...and ouch!
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« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2019, 06:02:05 PM »
I think I'd trade for straight pipe until inspection time came.  And perhaps change it out again if I thought it was going to be stolen.

It's not the environmental answer but seems practical. 
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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2019, 06:34:55 PM »
 Might just be me but, if I had to lock up everything ,have gates, cameras, I would move..

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« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2019, 10:26:10 PM »
Might just be me but, if I had to lock up everything ,have gates, cameras, I would move..

Well, now that you've said it ... Me Too.

Fear of that kind of behavior sort of defines "Quality of Life" for me!   But to each his own ....

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« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2019, 02:06:02 AM »
Well, now that you've said it ... Me Too.

Fear of that kind of behavior sort of defines "Quality of Life" for me!   But to each his own ....

Lannis

yes, we have been thinking about it and this is just one more incident to add to that side of the tally sheet.

to take a line from a mr. bob dylan:
"...you ask why i don't live here - honey why don't you move?"
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« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2019, 05:54:09 AM »
yes, we have been thinking about it and this is just one more incident to add to that side of the tally sheet.

to take a line from a mr. bob dylan:
"...you ask why i don't live here - honey why don't you move?"

Or as another wise man said:

"And you may find yourself
Living in a shotgun shack
And you may find yourself
In another part of the world
And you may find yourself
Behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house ....."

You just never know; and change is hard!

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« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2019, 07:00:42 AM »
Or as another wise man said:

"And you may find yourself
Living in a shotgun shack
And you may find yourself
In another part of the world
And you may find yourself
Behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house ....."

You just never know; and change is hard!

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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2019, 07:09:41 AM »
Might just be me but, if I had to lock up everything ,have gates, cameras, I would move..

Where I live "Good fences make good neighbours."

Their animals stay away from my animals and vice versa.  Two gates are maintained at all times between the animals and the road.

Gates also discourage neighbors from just popping over when you are trying to get things done.  Now, back in the day when neighbors would jump in and help you instead of distracting you was a time that is no more. 
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« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2019, 07:33:38 AM »

Did you just quote the talking heads?  LOL!

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« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2019, 07:25:09 PM »

Did you just quote the talking heads?  LOL!

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« Reply #56 on: April 21, 2019, 08:19:54 PM »
Yep.  The last time copper went high thieves were pulling the wires out of new construction and abandoned homes.  Sometimes lake homes closed up for the winter.

Those are easy picking.  Folks around here were hitting active, operational power substations.  This dude wasn't one of the more skilled thieves-  https://www.goupstate.com/news/20110719/man-dies-after-fire-at-power-substation-in-cowpens
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« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2019, 09:06:01 PM »
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« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2019, 06:55:39 AM »
Where I live "Good fences make good neighbours."

Their animals stay away from my animals and vice versa.  Two gates are maintained at all times between the animals and the road.

Gates also discourage neighbors from just popping over when you are trying to get things done.  Now, back in the day when neighbors would jump in and help you instead of distracting you was a time that is no more.

  What type of animals? I live in a agricultural area of small farms for dozens of miles in every direction.. Electric fences are used to contain beef cows and usually rail fences for horses...Our chickens have a fenced pen but are often let out to forage...Other than this, there are no fences for the purpose of keeping people in or out...People keep their dogs on their property because loose dogs annoying livestock might be shot...My neighbors mind their own business, but they and us are not afraid to offer or ask for help if needed...

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Re: CATALYTIC CONVERTER STOLEN LAST NIGHT
« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2019, 07:33:02 AM »
There are  extremes on every end of the spectrum on the subject of thief here and all have their  validity. The bottom line is regardless of where one lives, keeps their belongings or has insurance or not, all of us are subject to bad things happen to us. Hopefully we learn from those negative experiences and will lead us to improving our defense systems to prevent future inconveniences of these Type Evelin our lives.

 


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