Author Topic: V85TT Heated Grips (Read 25792 times)

James.S · « **on:** February 10, 2020, 04:18:57 AM »

I had them fitted to my bike at the dealer and I'm really disappointed with them. Even on the hottest setting they are only warm ish and there is no point in using setting 1 or 2. Has anyone else had the same problem? I've read of people saying they were great so I don't understand it. i have a cheap set of Oxford Hot grips on my KLE 500 and they get Hot. be grateful for any input. Thank you.

DougG · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2020, 07:35:13 AM »

Hi James, 2-10-20

Sorry to hear about the disappointing result with your grips. Can you tell me the item/catalogue # of the "warm ish" grips? I'm looking for a set myself and don't want to be unhappy with them.

Thanks, Doug G

NWrider · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2020, 10:02:16 AM »

I installed Oxford heated grips and just changed the connectors to go directly to the V85 harness. Mine work great. So, I'd double check the connections at the front of the tank next to the frame. If then connectors are well seated, then I'd guess there's a problem with the grips themselves and would take it back to the dealer.

James.S · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2020, 11:57:13 AM »

Doug. I don't know the part numer but they are the Genuine Guzzi ones ordered and fitted my the Main Dealer.
If the demo bike had had them fitted and I could've tried them first I wouldn't have bothered with them.

James.S · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2020, 11:59:32 AM »

NW. Thanks mate I will check the connections, I read somewhere else that someone had done the same as you. Could be the way to go after I've gone through the dealer route first.

Vagrant · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2020, 11:59:52 AM »

Quote from: NWrider on February 10, 2020, 10:02:16 AM

I installed Oxford heated grips and just changed the connectors to go directly to the V85 harness. Mine work great. So, I'd double check the connections at the front of the tank next to the frame. If then connectors are well seated, then I'd guess there's a problem with the grips themselves and would take it back to the dealer.

how many settings compared to the normal I think 5 on oxfords. my only gripe on them is they need 1 setting lower.

James.S · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2020, 12:20:14 PM »

Vagrant. There's 3 settings on the Guzzi ones.

Alpo · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2020, 08:01:18 AM »

Quote from: NWrider on February 10, 2020, 10:02:16 AM

I installed Oxford heated grips and just changed the connectors to go directly to the V85 harness. Mine work great. So, I'd double check the connections at the front of the tank next to the frame. If then connectors are well seated, then I'd guess there's a problem with the grips themselves and would take it back to the dealer.

NWrider, could you share which Oxford heated grips you installed, as I see Oxford offers different variations; Adventure, Sport, Touring, and Retro.The grip length being different between them, as well as the grip pattern.
Thanks!!

Alpo · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2020, 07:58:03 PM »

After some research I'm leaning towards the Oxford Premium Touring Heated Grips, as the length is virtually the same as the factory V85 grips;
Touring Grips = Standard length: 4.72"
Factory V85 grips = Measured length: 4.70" (120mm)
Just for reference;
Adventure Grips = Standard length: 5.19"
Sport Grips = Standard length: 4.84"

Oxford states that all the grips can be trimmed a small amount if necessary, but I'd rather avoid that.

Kiwi Dave · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2020, 11:18:48 PM »

I used Oxford OF691 Premium Touring heated grips. These were integrated into the V85 controller, i.e. I didn't use the Oxford one.

Worked out just fine!

James.S · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2020, 11:39:26 PM »

Kiwi Dave. What did you do with the connections, did you have to cut wires?

Alpo · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2020, 07:46:49 AM »

Quote from: Kiwi Dave on February 11, 2020, 11:18:48 PM

I used Oxford OF691 Premium Touring heated grips. These were integrated into the V85 controller, i.e. I didn't use the Oxford one.

Worked out just fine!

Excellent!! Thanks!!
There are comments, either here or over on ADVRider, about changing out the connectors on the Oxford wiring loom to allow plugging directly into the V85 factory heated grip circuit. So it sounds like the wires will need to be cut on the Oxford side, but I don't recall it being too fiddly a job, just need to locate connectors that mate to the V85 loom and have crimping skills. Confirmation of that by those that have done this would be great though!

Vagrant · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2020, 08:24:21 AM »

https://www.denniskirk.com/kimpex/handlebar-grip-heater-kit-12-170.p3931.prd/3931.sku

here is another option and they are available under a lot of brand names and prices this is just an example. I have used probably 8-10 sets on bikes over the years and no reason you couldn't wire them right up to the Guzzi's wiring harness. I know Wayne Orwig did on his Stelvio.
now his tip was to take the paper thin styrofoam from an egg carton and glue it on the left H bar to insulate it so it heats up identically to the throttle pipe side. then buy 2 sets of your grip of choice so you have two large inside diameters. big advantage here is you pick the grips jell, foam, tapered etc. they work great. the ones on my EV have been on since 2007.

DougG · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2020, 08:33:22 AM »

Thanks for the reply James.

Can anyone tell me how to remove the original factory grips without destroying anything? I actually have a 2017 Cali 1400 ride by wire.

Any help is appreciated.

Be well,
DougG

NWrider · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2020, 08:41:42 AM »

Compressed air with a small diameter nozzle that you can slip under the edge of the grip. Mine came off easily that way.

DougG · « **Reply #15 on:** February 12, 2020, 08:43:52 AM »

Thanks, NW. May I assume that there is no adhesive from the factory?

Be well,
DougG

Kiwi Dave · « **Reply #16 on:** February 12, 2020, 01:56:24 PM »

Quote from: James.S on February 11, 2020, 11:39:26 PM

Kiwi Dave. What did you do with the connections, did you have to cut wires?

There's a triangular cover on the RHS under the tank where the wiring is ready for the heated grips. Just slip the tank back a little to get access to the rearmost screw. I made up short adapting wires that hid under this triangle cover, and sealed the wiring loom end with heat shrink to make it permanent. If necessary, I can disconnect the heated grips where the Oxfords plug at to the adapters. No wires in the loom were cut.

Note that the Oxford controller is not required, the heated grips icon will appear in the dashboard, and controlled by the heated grips button already present on the left handlebar.

James.S · « **Reply #17 on:** February 12, 2020, 11:32:30 PM »

Kiwi Dave. Thanks for that info mate.

smdl · « **Reply #18 on:** February 13, 2020, 01:28:30 AM »

For what it's worth, I experience the same issue of lackluster performance with the factory heated grips on my Stelvio (as have others). I now have a set of Oxfords that I am connecting into the stock wiring, and while I haven't tried them on the road yet, they have worked very well in testing.

Cheers,
Shaun

James.S · « **Reply #19 on:** February 13, 2020, 01:39:57 AM »

Thank Shaun. from responses I've seen on here and other forums it looks like more people have negative experiences with the Guzzi grips the positive ones. It still makes no sense to me tho, surely they should all be the same and considering the dealer price they should work perfectly.

v85kris · « **Reply #20 on:** February 13, 2020, 08:59:49 AM »

Same problem here. Installed myself, didn't have the throttle "calibrated" but everything works, however the grips don't get real warm. I do like the throttle as it seems to have a lighter spring and seems easier to twist. When it's real cold I use heated gloves plugged into a heated jacket liner, heats the top of the hands not just the palms.

Alpo · « **Reply #21 on:** February 15, 2020, 04:07:55 PM »

Okay, I've been convinced that the factory heated grips are a disappointment from a functional standpoint, and certainly not worth the cost. But I enjoy a good heated grip, and want to take advantage of the technology offered by the V85TT dash and available wiring. I've acquired a set of Oxford Premium Touring Heated Grips for installation.

Since I haven't found this elsewhere, and this isn't a totally straightforward install, I'm going to document briefly how I installed mine.

Alpo · « **Reply #22 on:** February 15, 2020, 06:43:42 PM »

Here’s my reason for choosing the Touring Grips Model. The length is the same, and no trimming required.

Alpo · « **Reply #23 on:** February 15, 2020, 07:13:00 PM »

You’ll need to move the fuel tank out of the way to gain access to the factory heated grip loom and connectors, which involves removing 3 bolts as shown, 1 at the rear of the tank and 2 that are located at the front under the plastic cover that is around and over the ignition switch, a couple of 4mm hex screws hold the cover.

Alpo · « **Reply #24 on:** February 15, 2020, 07:29:49 PM »

Lift the tank just enough to get it out of the way, you can do this without disconnecting any fuel or electrical connections, this will give you access to the cover where the heated grip connectors live. Here’s where you will run into the only snag in using the Oxford Heated Grips, the connectors do not match. You’ll have to come up with something to solve this, there are several options, my choice is to make a pair of short jumper harnesses with matching connectors on both ends. Since the Oxford controller won’t be used, I’m going to harvest the matching Oxford connectors and a length of wire from each, which means cutting the wires from the controller. I’m good with this, you may not be, like I said, personal preference here.

I'm waiting on the Molex style connectors that match the V85TT connectors, so it will be a few days before I can complete the jumper harnesses.

Alpo · « **Reply #25 on:** February 19, 2020, 05:03:13 PM »

Molex connectors have arrived! Time to finish the jumper harnesses.

sactownv85 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 19, 2020, 05:07:39 PM »

Where did you buy the Molex connectors? I'm picking up my V85TT tomorrow and cant wait to start modding it and this will be one of the first mods I do.

Alpo · « **Reply #27 on:** February 19, 2020, 06:09:58 PM »

Harnesses complete

And installed

Toasty hands!

Alpo · « **Reply #28 on:** February 19, 2020, 06:13:10 PM »

Quote from: sactownv85 on February 19, 2020, 05:07:39 PM

Where did you buy the Molex connectors? I'm picking up my V85TT tomorrow and cant wait to start modding it and this will be one of the first mods I do.

I got mine from Amazon. 6.8mm, pack of 6, and congratulations on the new V85TT!!

sactownv85 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 19, 2020, 07:03:03 PM »

Thank you, my first ever Guzzi! Do you have any pictures of the grips installed on the bike? I have installed the oxford heated grips on other bikes but never integrated into the stock harness.

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Author Topic: V85TT Heated Grips (Read 25792 times)