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Any peony people here? NGC obviously
« on: May 29, 2020, 07:07:07 AM »
When we moved on to the farm in '49, there was a patch of peonies growing in the fence row. I mowed them down regularly when I was a pup.  :evil: A couple of years ago, I found them with weeds and grass growing through them, etc. and thought, "I wonder if I could transplant them at our house?"
Dorcia is a Master Gardener, and is impressed with my googling how to do it.  :smiley:
This is the first bloom in *years* that I know of. Now, I'm trying to figure out what variety it is.. There is generally an expert on about any subject on WG, so I thought I'd ask here first.  :grin:
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2020, 07:21:14 AM »
I'm pretty sure it is the pink variety. :grin:

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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2020, 07:23:39 AM »
 What kinda fertilizer ya gonna run ?

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2020, 07:33:06 AM »
My Mom used to have very nice, bright, showy peonies around our home when I was growing up ... and Fay and I were just this week talking about starting some ourselves.

If your in-house Master Gardener has any advice about what sort of soil preparation we should do for peony beds (I'm prepared to dig deep and haul soil in if I need to), that would be a good start; I'd rather hear from someone who's BTDT than just trust google, it's like anyone can be an "expert" out there ...

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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2020, 07:38:59 AM »
What kinda fertilizer ya gonna run ?

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Has to be dino. Synthetic would ruin it

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2020, 08:09:56 AM »
And you need the correct species of ants to open them............... .............I piled on.  15 yards!
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2020, 08:38:29 AM »
My Mom used to have very nice, bright, showy peonies around our home when I was growing up ... and Fay and I were just this week talking about starting some ourselves.

If your in-house Master Gardener has any advice about what sort of soil preparation we should do for peony beds (I'm prepared to dig deep and haul soil in if I need to), that would be a good start; I'd rather hear from someone who's BTDT than just trust google, it's like anyone can be an "expert" out there ...

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Obviously, they are easy to grow. I've never planted a flower in my life.  :smiley:  Plant them in *early* fall, and not very deep.. maybe 2 inches. Mulch heavily the first Winter.
That was the problem when I was planting chickens.. must have been too deep. <shrug>
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2020, 08:58:34 AM »
Only time I saw my grandma cuss was when my grandad came into the kitchen and told grandma,  "I solved your ant problem in the front flower bed, I went out and those white ones were covered with 'em! I just 7-dusted the heck out of them! I don't think you'll see any more of them, this year at least!"
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2020, 09:17:43 AM »
those must be the special Mid Indiana variety. they're exactly like what's poppin' at my place right now, only, as KOF said, minus the ants.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2020, 09:20:57 AM »
We have a few purple ones in our garden...my wife's grandmother raised them in Dayton, OH, so my wife is carrying on the tradition in northern AZ. :thumb: :wink: :smiley: :cool:









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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2020, 09:25:03 AM »
Wife says you can dig em out and separate the roots to divide the plant for transplanting. Wait for wet soil conditions.Then water them a lot and fertilize.

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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2020, 11:03:18 AM »
Over here you need the ants all over them to make them open-or so it appears.
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2020, 11:49:15 AM »
     Whatever you're doing, it sure looks like it's working  :thumb:

     I think Peonies put on a beautiful display for how resilient and low maintenance they are; but I've had carpenter ants at different houses, so I would never intentionally plant them close to my house,lol  :evil:

     You mention that's the first flower in years? Maybe the root should be split for fresh energy or maybe you don't have a lot of ants or the right ones?

     The foliage looks really rich and dark green, perhaps cutting back on the nitrogen and a little more phosphorous and potassium to promote flowering.

     I don't know about Peonies, but  know some plants like a little hardship to trigger the flowering/reproduction cycle in an attempt to save itself, sometimes drought or tension and stress from being tied and pulled can trigger flower buds.

     All sorts of good soil recipes are on the net, (ie Vic's super soil), easily modified to amend your soil; it should breath, drain and hold water well.

     Iirc you have access to chickens, I've heard they produce the gold standard of fertilizer; my worst ever gardening mistake, was adding a trailer full of horse manure to my garden, horses don't digest weed seed well, as I found out  :rolleyes:

     Carry on ! Tks for sharing

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2020, 11:56:29 AM »
   
     my worst ever gardening mistake, was adding a trailer full of horse manure to my garden, horses don't digest weed seed well, as I found out 
     Kelly

Me too, along with fresh manure from a dairy farm.

I had two years worth of weeds that didn't even look like they were from this planet ... nasty, fast-growing, deep-rooted, spiny, and hard to kill.    I had to just wait them out and not let them go to seed.

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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2020, 12:09:53 PM »
I have 4 groups of red ones in my front yard that were there when I bought the house 20 years ago. I have done nothing to them all mthese years. They get fertilizer and water when the lawn gets it. Someone gave me a couple of bulbs a few years ago. One of them came up and turned out to be pink. The red ones just finished blooming the pink one just starting to bloom. My do get grass in them but I cut and pull it as best I can. When they start to dwindle in the summer, foliage starting to brown, I mow them down. One year I mowed them too early and they didn't come back the next too strongly. Very pretty flowers.
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2020, 05:24:20 PM »
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You mention that's the first flower in years?
Yeah, but that was down in the old farmstead from where I transplanted them.This is the third year since then. I thought it would be cool to keep them going. I have a pot of them that I've separated to give to The Kid in Wisconsin, so he can carry them on, too.
Dorcia said, "First year sleeper, Second year creeper, Third year leaper."  :smiley: This is the third year, and they are doing well. I *think* they might be
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2020, 06:46:51 PM »
Chuck:  There is a Peony Farm on the slopes of Mount Hamilton just above San Jose.  I'll print your picture and try to swing by some day.

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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2020, 07:35:46 PM »
Can't tell you the variety, but we have a big bunch of 'em I dug up at the wife's Aunt Gladys' house after she passed. They're about done now. They peak around Mother's day in SWMO
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2020, 08:17:12 PM »
We had one Chuck that hardly ever flowered.  In my research I found that they have to be in a good sunshine are.  This one wasn't.  I transplanted it in to a sunny area last season and it promptly bloomed, so I guess Mr/.Mrs google was right.
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2020, 05:46:25 AM »
Chuck:  There is a Peony Farm on the slopes of Mount Hamilton just above San Jose.  I'll print your picture and try to swing by some day.

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Thanks, Patrick. No need to make it a "project," of course. I'm just curious. I believe, however, this is the *first* time I've asked an off the wall question where there wasn't an expert in that particular field on WG.   :smiley:
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2020, 08:23:16 AM »
What kinda fertilizer ya gonna run ?

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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2020, 08:29:34 AM »
Is more than one peon called peonies? :cool:
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2020, 07:14:41 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2020, 07:55:16 AM »
I've been using an app for the iphone called "PictureThis" to identify trees and plants. The good thing is that it gives multiple varieties of the matches. Not sure if that helps or not.
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2020, 07:04:19 PM »
I've been using an app for the iphone called "PictureThis" to identify trees and plants. The good thing is that it gives multiple varieties of the matches. Not sure if that helps or not.

So. What does "Picture this" say?
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2020, 11:50:50 PM »
Chuck:  Regina and I expect to stop by the farm on Wednesday.  Meanwhile, here is the PINK page from their website.  Fifty-one varieties of PINK!!!!  Take your pick.

https://4peonies.com/Pink_CoralPeonies.html

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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2020, 07:07:58 AM »
So. What does "Picture this" say?
I didn't try it on this, you have to snap a photo of the plant's leaf then it gives you the matches. For example, a few weeks ago we were trying to figure out a plant in front of our neighbor's house, so took a photo of the leaf and it said what it was and it appeared to be correct after then cross referencing that name to Google images. YMMV, but I've had pretty good success with it. It also identified a tree in front of out house which we had no idea what it was, and it ended up being a Hackberry and gave all the other names the tree is known for. It's nailed a few other things, but I only posted two here. You can use the app for free, but it's always trying to get you to pay for it, just X out of the screen that wants you to buy it when that pops up (< guzzi content, right?)

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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2020, 07:17:30 AM »
Ok, tested this.. I just took a picture of yours on the screen with PictureThis , and it matched it, but not specific to the color.

It gives pages of the story on the plant (scrolling pages). Here are two pages:






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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2020, 12:53:35 PM »
I have the same ones here, Chuck.  Exact same color.   My family has always used them for cemetery flowers since they always  bloom by Memorial Day here. 


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