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BMW question, NGC
« on: June 23, 2020, 04:54:01 PM »
Until I can find the right Guzzi to replace my 1400 I just sold, I’ve been looking for a low cost older bike to leave at my second home just to have a bike available.
I just found a local, family owners, 1995, BMW R100R. Bike has 47k miles, always service by the dealership where bought new and no issues, period. Newer tires, fresh service. I spoke with the owner who seemed like an honest fellow who said the only cosmetic issues were the 25 years old shield was tarnished and scratched snd the plastic bags were faded. The guy said he priced it for a quick sale at 2,000.00. The KBB is more that that, trade in value. Any advise on this model, price or any other useful information. Thanks in advance!

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2020, 05:12:27 PM »
 Ride it , look at the lower shock mount on the swingarm style front end , the mounts can crack . Other than that , at $2K how can you go wrong .

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2020, 05:16:24 PM »
The Beemer sounds like a good deal, but don't forget that the most bike for the money in that price range is a Guzzi, every time!

Even as a temporary ride....

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2020, 05:22:02 PM »
The Beemer sounds like a good deal, but don't forget that the most bike for the money in that price range is a Guzzi, every time!

Even as a temporary ride....

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I’ve been looking high and low Lannis but so far I’ve not been able to find that perfect guzzi that I’d like to be my last bike purchase. It must be the right one and I’m in no hurry. Soooo, this beemer popped up and caught my eye.
 

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2020, 05:25:54 PM »
Check this one out Dan,  Looks like a good deal, I'm sure Huzo will approve!
https://maine.craigslist.org/mcy/d/union-2007-moto-guzzi-norge/7135818154.html

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2020, 05:50:18 PM »
Check this one out Dan,  Looks like a good deal, I'm sure Huzo will approve!
https://maine.craigslist.org/mcy/d/union-2007-moto-guzzi-norge/7135818154.html
They are nice bikes for guys like Huzo😂😂 but the sport touring scene bikes are just not my cup of tea.

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2020, 05:55:12 PM »
Ride it , look at the lower shock mount on the swingarm style front end , the mounts can crack . Other than that , at $2K how can you go wrong .

 Dusty

Normal telescopic forks on that bike. $2k sounds like a bargain to me... 

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2020, 05:56:11 PM »
Ride it , look at the lower shock mount on the swingarm style front end , the mounts can crack . Other than that , at $2K how can you go wrong .

Traditional telescopics on this one, no?
Good bikes and that seems like a very nice price.  Bear in mind, Roper says that the exhaust sounds like a parson farting in a bathtub.  And, as a BMW airhead owner and fan I'm confident in saying that they are not very exciting and don't handle particularly well.  But I like them anyway!  :)
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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2020, 06:32:14 PM »

  If it is the Mystic they are fairly rare here in the US and still a bargain at $2000. If it's the classic it's still a deal, just more of them around.   
   
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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2020, 06:37:54 PM »
Essentially a lower R100GS.  Same engine, 980cc, US version 58 hp.  Same 5 spd tranny.  Same Paralever single side swing arm, monoshock easily removed.  Paralever final drive is pivoted to rear of swingarm.  Low (3.09:1) final drive.  Uses torque rod similar to CARC to reduce shaft jacking.  Single dry plate clutch, fairly light pull.

Rear wheel held in place with 4 lug nuts.  Off and on in a minute.
Earliest model R100R had single front disc brake, and (ulp!) drum rear brake.  Later had dual disc front.
Smaller Bing cv carbs (32mm) than older R bikes (40mm)

My original driveshaft made it for 120,000 miles.  Many are shot at 30-40k miles.  Replacement is roughly $700.00.  Ted Porter Beemer Shop sells a rebuildable shaft with replaceable cush blocks for less.

Fairly lightweight.  Typical gummikuh (rubber cow suspension and frame.)  Soft ride ….. remember, a lot of older airhead in this bike.
My 1991 R100GS (still own her) needed output shaft bearing at 60,000 miles.  Leaky rear main required clutch plate replacement.  Did top end refresh (valves/springs/guides/rings) at 128,000 miles.

Source for new oem parts:  https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/DiagramsMain.aspx?vid=51635&rnd=07242017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEEF2-mWHlA

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« Last Edit: June 23, 2020, 06:50:46 PM by ohiorider »
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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2020, 06:46:05 PM »
Dan, two thoughts.

1. That BMW could be great. Check it out.

2. V9 - I mean it....I REALLY DO.
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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2020, 07:04:46 PM »
Dan, two thoughts.

1. That BMW could be great. Check it out.

2. V9 - I mean it....I REALLY DO.
Thanks Kev. Just to make myself understand with this, I’m still going to replace my 1400 with another guzzi. I just saw this Beemer while surfing the local Facebook yard sale and saw this one and when I checked KBB and found it to be priced at trade in value and started looking at what others were selling for, well I figured it’d be a good investment to at least leave at the river house.

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2020, 07:09:08 PM »
They are nice bikes for guys like Huzo😂😂 but the sport touring scene bikes are just not my cup of tea.
Damn right officer...!

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2020, 07:10:55 PM »
Thanks Kev. Just to make myself understand with this, I’m still going to replace my 1400 with another guzzi. I just saw this Beemer while surfing the local Facebook yard sale and saw this one and when I checked KBB and found it to be priced at trade in value and started looking at what others were selling for, well I figured it’d be a good investment to at least leave at the river house.
If you had a 1400, why is a Norge such a stretch ?

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2020, 07:12:52 PM »
Damn right officer...!
Lol, I was just funning buddy, that red monster of yours is bulletproof and would make any rider proud to own 👍

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2020, 07:21:53 PM »
Thanks Kev. Just to make myself understand with this, I’m still going to replace my 1400 with another guzzi. I just saw this Beemer while surfing the local Facebook yard sale and saw this one and when I checked KBB and found it to be priced at trade in value and started looking at what others were selling for, well I figured it’d be a good investment to at least leave at the river house.



I'm saying that BMW might be a great bike. Get it.

But to replace the 1400, with another Guzzi, then I'd recommend the V9.

Yeah, you COULD get a Tonti Cali and they are great bikes. But I'd go V9 instead.
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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2020, 07:30:58 PM »
Normal telescopic forks on that bike. $2k sounds like a bargain to me...

 Dangit , somehow I read that as R1100 , this bike is the last of the airheads .

 Dusty

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2020, 07:33:15 PM »
I'm saying that BMW might be a great bike. Get it.

But to replace the 1400, with another Guzzi, then I'd recommend the V9.

Yeah, you COULD get a Tonti Cali and they are great bikes. But I'd go V9 instead.
👍I’ll definitely take it in consideration my friend

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2020, 07:33:19 PM »
I'm actually thinking that Norge would be a perfect bike to combine my 1400 and griso duties into one bike. A direction I would like to move in. Owner just texted me that it is still available and in pristine condition.  hmm??

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2020, 07:34:46 PM »
If you decide against it, I wouldn't mind knowing where its at  :smiley:
Based on the description its definitely worth looking at.
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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2020, 07:35:39 PM »
Dangit , somehow I read that as R1100 , this bike is the last of the airheads .

 Dusty
I’m trying to attach a picture but something is wrong with that part of our forum right now.

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2020, 07:39:49 PM »
I'm actually thinking that Norge would be a perfect bike to combine my 1400 and griso duties into one bike. A direction I would like to move in. Owner just texted me that it is still available and in pristine condition.  hmm??
Be careful Dave, that Norge doesn’t look like it’s got that much room compared to your 1400 and the wife may not think it’s as comfortable as the 1400 for the long ride down next month🤔

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2020, 07:41:22 PM »
If you decide against it, I wouldn't mind knowing where its at  :smiley:
Based on the description its definitely worth looking at.
You got it Mo👍

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2020, 08:00:05 PM »
Hey guys, how about someone attempting to add an image because I can’t get one to load and let’s see if it’s on my end or the sites.

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2020, 08:03:52 PM »
I need to make this correction, Dusty was right this bike is a R1100R BMW.

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2020, 08:04:02 PM »
Hey guys, how about someone attempting to add an image because I can’t get one to load and let’s see if it’s on my end or the sites.
Try this video of R100R

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEEF2-mWHlA

pic download test (doesn't appear to be working)

So ...... it's an 1100, not a 100 ... quite a bit different.



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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2020, 08:07:04 PM »
I’ve been looking high and low Lannis but so far I’ve not been able to find that perfect guzzi that I’d like to be my last bike purchase. It must be the right one and I’m in no hurry. Soooo, this beemer popped up and caught my eye.

Well, the idea was that instead of buying a cheap temporary BMW while you're looking for the perfect Guzzi, you buy a cheap temporary Guzzi while you're looking for the perfect Guzzi ....  !

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2020, 08:32:08 PM »
Well, the idea was that instead of buying a cheap temporary BMW while you're looking for the perfect Guzzi, you buy a cheap temporary Guzzi while you're looking for the perfect Guzzi ....  !

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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2020, 08:35:04 PM »
I need to make this correction, Dusty was right this bike is a R1100R BMW.
Oh, too bad, less enthusiastic.
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Re: BMW question, NGC
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2020, 08:50:50 PM »
Oh, too bad, less enthusiastic.

+1.
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