Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?

[Turin]

[StuCorpe]

Do you mean "Nessie" the Loch Ness Monster?




The famous picture from 1934 that has been proven to be a hoax.

[Ncdan]

I’d say a 1000lb great white is a Sea Monster, as well as a 500lb 150 foot long squid.

[JJ]

Yes...and that's "MISTER" Calamari to you!!

[Huzo]

Do you mean "Nessie" the Loch Ness Monster?




The famous picture from 1934 that has been proven to be a hoax.

I was on the shore of Loch Ness in 2015 and looked across the Lake and did not see Monster.
However, there is a restaurant called the “Nessie Shop” that sells “Nessie Burgers”..





Maybe the thing to do is to lie in wait until our elusive friend goes in for lunch then click click with the Nikon...

[cliffrod]

I've got a card to play in this hand, too-

True story.  Before emigrating to the USA from Aberdeen, Scotland in 1891, My great grandfather William Beaty Melvin married Jane Urquhart.  Two of my relatives later returned to Scotland trying to prove lineage and legal claim to at least a portion of the Urquhart estate, including the Urquhart castle that lies in ruins on the shore of Loch Ness.  They were not successful in their quest.  So I'm still just a commoner.

Nessie or Champ in Lake Champlain in my native VT are both fun to think about, but I'm not convinced.  I had enough trouble trying to convince the dumbass painter who was carpooling with me that the "seal" he saw on the ice in VT one winter was only an otter....

[JJ]

It's high time to unleash...."The KRAKEN!!

[oldbike54]

 The Japanese have an entire movie industry built on sea monster films .

 Dusty

[Rough Edge racing]

American sea monster

         

[Bulldog9]

When I was a kid, I lived far out east on Long Island in a town right on the Peconic bay. My dad and I would fish all along the north and south coast of the bay. One of our favorite spots was near Sag Harbor near a Hamlet called North Sea with a large inland brackish lake. Was great for mucking clams, catching scallops, flounder and baby blues. Was one of my dad's favorite places to fish when he was a kid and his family had a summer beach cottage out there. This was before the Hamptons and East end of the Island was ruined by the 'rich folks'

I was maybe 9, and of course at that time obsessed with Loch Ness Monster, UFO's, Bigfoot, etc. This was the early 70's and seemed a bit of an obsession on that stuff generally. One night we were fishing and out of no where there was a strange guttural bellow and giant splash of water that sounded like someone dropped a boat in the water about 20' away from us. I had just finished reading an article on how the Loch Ness Monster could have survived and that Loch Ness was very deep and they had discovered huge under ground waterways connecting the Loch to the North and Baltic Seas in Norway with weird things washing up from one side or the other. Horses, etc.... Of course my 8-9 year old mind immediately connected our North Sea with that and was convinced it was a plesiosaurus... lol  Likely was a seal who was also going for clams and scallops.

Finally visited Scotland last year in a whirlwind tour and went to Loch Ness. Beautiful place.

With all these things, and our knowledge of life and our planet so thin, we realy dont know, they find new and 'thought extinct' things all the time. Coelacanths were thought to be extinct until a live one was caught off the coast of South Africa. Until then, they were presumed to have gone extinct in the late Cretaceous period, over 65 million years ago aong with Nessie.  So who knows. Unikey, but not impossible.

[oldbike54]

With all these things, and our knowledge of life and our planet so thin, we realy dont know, they find new and 'thought extinct' things all the time. Coelacanths were thought to be extinct until a live one was caught off the coast of South Africa. Until then, they were presumed to have gone extinct in the late Cretaceous period, over 65 million years ago aong with Nessie.  So who knows. Unikey, but not impossible.

 Consider this , we had fossil records of a creature thought extinct for 65 million years , so we knew it existed . Yet we have no fossil records of Nessie or bigfoot . See the problem here ?

 Dusty

[Shorty]

It's high time to unleash...."The KRAKEN!!

[wavedog]

Proof? You want proof- you can’t handle the proof!

I served on two submarines when I was in the navy. Good, tight crews. We were the sea monster.

[Bulldog9]

 Consider this , we had fossil records of a creature thought extinct for 65 million years , so we knew it existed . Yet we have no fossil records of Nessie or bigfoot . See the problem here ?

 Dusty

You know Dusty... Seems like you may have something to hide here.. .I'm starting to think that maybe you belong to a secret Bigfoot Nessie Cult and are trying to cover your tracks..

You have heard of a  Plesiosaur haven't you?

What is it you people out in Oklahoma do anyway? :-)

[Turin]

Fossils are very rare because the perfect conditions need to be in place for bone to fossilize. The fossil record is no where near complete.

There is at least one candidate for a bigff0ot type creature in the fossil record.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/01/160106-science-evolution-apes-giant/

[Turin]

Not a nessie candidate but interesting stuff …

https://www.livescience.com/25656-pygmy-whales-living-fossils.html

[JJ]

One of my all time favorites!!!

[Turin]

The Gillman ! What's not to like. JJ, did you see " The Shape Of Water"  ?

[JukeboxGothic]

A few years ago I saw a doco about a group of marine biologists taging and tracking Great whites off the South Australian coast. They caught a fourteen foot female that was particularly aggressive and proceeded to track it as it moved West close to the coast. Then it began to exhibit some strange behaviours. It moved towards the edge of the continental shelf and dived to depths Whites done normally go to then the temperature gauge started to rise.  The shark had been eaten by something large and the tracker had been swallowed.  They went through all the possibilities and none really fit the data. So something very large was eating very aggressive Great white sharks in the southern ocean.

[Tom H]

When someone says "True Story", it's time to grab the hip waders at least because the bull is going to flow.

Sorry, couldn't help myself  ,
Tom

[Lannis]

When someone says "True Story", it's time to grab the hip waders at least because the bull is going to flow.

Sorry, couldn't help myself  ,
Tom

When I was a kid listening to my Dad's Navy buddies sitting around talking, and one of them said "All right now, this is no sh!t .... ", I knew I was getting ready to hear the biggest lie that was ever told .... !

Lannis

[JJ]

Then, of course, there is this classic...."The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms!!"

[Ncdan]

Proof? You want proof- you can’t handle the proof!

I served on two submarines when I was in the navy. Good, tight crews. We were the sea monster.

Thank you for that special service, anyone who can get into one of those things and stay under the oceans for weeks is definitely a hero!

[wavedog]

Jukebox gothic- Orcas hunt and kill great whites and eat them.

[Turin]

Then, of course, there is this classic...."The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms!!" 

There is something magical about those Ray Harryhausen stop motion animation films. I never get bored watching that vs CGI.

[JJ]

There is something magical about those Ray Harryhausen stop motion animation films. I never get bored watching that vs CGI.

Like this classic, for example!!! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdLW_rdrgSg

[JukeboxGothic]

Jukebox gothic- Orcas hunt and kill great whites and eat them.

     They discounted Orcas and any other Southern ocean predators Including giant Squid. 

[Turin]

Orca pods have distinct cultures. not all Orcas hunt sharks.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/understanding-orca-culture-12494696/

[JJ]

Orca pods have distinct cultures. not all Orcas hunt sharks.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/understanding-orca-culture-12494696/

I have sort of a two-wheel ORCA!!  

Although, as we all know "Moby Dick" was a white Sperm Whale...

[MGrego]

 Consider this , we had fossil records of a creature thought extinct for 65 million years , so we knew it existed . Yet we have no fossil records of Nessie or bigfoot . See the problem here ?

 Dusty

Gigantopithicus