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4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« on: October 21, 2020, 10:05:24 AM »
It doesn't get any more original than this one!  What do you think of the price?!!   This seller always seems to scratch the top of the market, and gets it.

https://motoborgotaro.com/motorcycles/1977-moto-guzzi-le-mans-1-for-sale

I wouldn't trade my Lemans for it, but it is an interesting bike. 

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2020, 10:19:36 AM »
The price? Wow.. I shoulda kept mine.

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2020, 10:21:40 AM »
The price? Wow.. I shoulda kept mine.


For some reason they tend to get the high end of the going rate, but can't fault them for it. 
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2020, 10:27:16 AM »
$26,500 is a LOT of lettuce.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Back in 1980, before I moved from NORCAL to AZ, I sold my '78 850 Le Mans for about $3800.... (Who knew?!?) :shocked: :shocked: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2020, 10:39:31 AM »
LMI that are complete, low miles, good condition--- or very nice correct restorations-- are selling all day around $20k+

I dont see how one that is this original with such low miles would be considered out of range at that price?  Not for me, but I think someone will snap it up?
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2020, 10:46:04 AM »
Should also consider the cost of living in the area of the seller, no? I bet it ain’t Alabama.
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2020, 11:05:29 AM »
Some things, no matter how original, should be changed. For instance, the white plastic fuel banjos.
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2020, 11:15:02 AM »
Some things, no matter how original, should be changed. For instance, the white plastic fuel banjos.

Correct you are!  It has me thinking that I should paint my velocity stacks gray though!   :grin:

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2020, 12:08:22 PM »
Correct you are!  It has me thinking that I should paint my velocity stacks gray though!   :grin:



And in that photo, is that a garden tractor battery I see? You'd think for the $$, something better would be installed.
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2020, 12:51:28 PM »
...And why is the black paint on the tank so shiny? :popcorn:
I predict it won't sell at that price.

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2020, 01:23:14 PM »
Priced for Wall St./Hedge Fund dudes who will ride it once or twice on Tuesday nights to the Ear Inn in Manhattan. Maybe.
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2020, 01:26:51 PM »
Some things, no matter how original, should be changed. For instance, the white plastic fuel banjos.

AND original LeMans 2X8 knotty pine saddle! Those things are like a medieval torture device! 
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2020, 01:34:40 PM »
AND original LeMans 2X8 knotty pine saddle! Those things are like a medieval torture device!

Yes...without question...and even when new...it was clearly the WORST seat in motorcycle history...then, after many years...the FOAM gets hard...and it indeed morphs into the 2 x 8 knotty pine board!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2020, 02:01:41 PM »
Yes...without question...and even when new...it was clearly the WORST seat in motorcycle history...then, after many years...the FOAM gets hard...and it indeed morphs into the 2 x 8 knotty pine board!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:

I have one I'll sell you, along with the London bridge or some oceanfront property in Arizona : )

I have the original POS, The Gamman & a Corbin "gunfighter" currently riding Corbin.
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2020, 02:07:50 PM »
I have one I'll sell you, along with the London bridge or some oceanfront property in Arizona : )

I have the original POS, The Gamman & a Corbin "gunfighter" currently riding Corbin.

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2020, 02:19:45 PM »
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2020, 06:47:09 PM »
It has me thinking that I should paint my velocity stacks gray though!   

You should be able to find gray OEM Dellorto velocity stacks if you look around.  Bevel Heaven has them for PHFs but the color looks off to my eyes.  I notice the gray starter solenoid cover on your bike, many were updated to black over the years.

My original '79 LeMans seat has been pretty good for me since 1987, now with 100K miles showing.  I've done many long days on it and liked it.  Its no harder than it ever was, and pretty soft.  Many other seats are worse for my rear end, for example the stock LM III seat which was was narrower and harder.

This bike has the advantage of being unmolested and low mileage, a good thing, but is otherwise a bit 'rough but restorable' to my eyes.  I've also disliked how people cut off the Italian license plate holder ever since I bought a new replacement for my bike in 1989.
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2020, 07:03:01 PM »
The price? Wow.. I shoulda kept mine.



I think I should have kept your bike as well!

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2020, 07:21:02 PM »
You sure did it right Jim!
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2020, 06:36:12 AM »
This bike has the advantage of being unmolested and low mileage, a good thing, but is otherwise a bit 'rough but restorable' to my eyes.  I've also disliked how people cut off the Italian license plate holder ever since I bought a new replacement for my bike in 1989.

I agree.  It is a bit rough when you consider the asking price.  Putting into a proper state of fettle could be an extensive undertaking.   

But then - it does come with the Guzzi shop rag!!  That puts it over the top!  :wink:
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2020, 07:44:17 AM »
4,000 miles or 40,000 miles its still a 42 year old used bike. If someone is looking for living room art and has money to burn, more power to them but if you want to ride it it still has its marginal suspension and heavy clutch. If this was new in the crate them maybe the price is justified but its not.

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2020, 08:12:00 AM »
I'm thinking I could get a brand new H2 SX SE + for that kind of money!
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2020, 10:58:12 AM »
That's a lot of $$, but they're in NYC with a hip shop to support.  And holy crap, it has the manual!

I paid circa $15k for a 4300 mile fairly original (save for lightened flywheel, reground cam, a decent repaint and Lafranconis) '78 a couple of years ago.  More than I wanted to pay but there was another guy behind me ready to go and I'd missed on a couple of auction bikes.

It's awfully easy to get into the 20's once you start taking things apart.   For me, it was worth the experience and knowing the exact state of the bike.

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2020, 11:47:27 AM »
If you guys are mad about this LMI, go check the price on the 1993 Magni Sfida 1000 with only 26k KM he just put on his site  :whip2:
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2020, 02:11:00 PM »
If you guys are mad about this LMI, go check the price on the 1993 Magni Sfida 1000 with only 26k KM he just put on his site  :whip2:

I hope he gets his price and the LM I is still a lot less than this Ducati of the same period.

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2020, 02:24:10 PM »
I wonder if he knows that the V7 Sport for which he's asking $19,500.00 is not wearing its original speedo. He exists because his customers have more money than brains knowledge of the bikes they are buying!  :rolleyes:
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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2020, 03:02:04 PM »
I wonder if he knows that the V7 Sport for which he's asking $19,500.00 is not wearing its original speedo. He exists because his customers have more money than brains!  :rolleyes:

I give.  What's wrong about the gauges?  Or do you have prior knowledge of this bike?

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2020, 03:15:08 PM »
The speedo is a Civilian Eldo type because the needle tip comes to a sharper point than the Tach needle.

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2020, 03:16:26 PM »
The speedo is a Civilian Eldo type because the needle tip comes to a sharper point than the Tach needle.

I couldn't see the forest for the trees!!  Thanks

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Re: 4K Mile Original 78 Lemans I For Sale
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2020, 03:22:20 PM »
Also, every V7 Sport I have seen has engine numbers like below.  The V7 Sport on that site neither has the VK or the *________* that I can discern. 

« Last Edit: October 22, 2020, 03:22:52 PM by Dave Swanson »
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