What are we afraid of?

[DaveJT]

A seemingly innocuous thread about a radio personality’s passing was locked almost immediately ( though to be fair it took an odd tangent).  So just mark that up to the long list of historic events that the mods feel we aren’t allowed to discuss.  Things we are allowed to discuss.  You know motorcycles and stuff.  Guzzis, harleys, royal enfields. 

[ridingron]

"I'm scared of spiders, Coach.”


Led to one of the best scenes ever!

[Canuck750]

Did a Kardashian pass recently ?

[bad Chad]

Innocuous??    Who are you trying to kid?   I would bet my house that thread was mere minutes away from complete  melt down. 

[Huzo]

A seemingly innocuous thread about a radio personality’s passing was locked almost immediately ( though to be fair it took an odd tangent).  So just mark that up to the long list of historic events that the mods feel we aren’t allowed to discuss.  Things we are allowed to discuss.  You know motorcycles and stuff.  Guzzis, harleys, royal enfields.

I’ve never ridden with Dusty, but I’ll bet he’s the sort of bloke who rolls off BEFORE he’s committed to going over the cliff...
Trouble is (and I’ve been on both sides)..
Joe Bloggs says something..
Fred Nerk counters it by upping the ante
Ralph Mudd sticks up for Joe Bloggs
Whatever the last poster got away with, the next bloke takes as acceptable and adds to it.
Just like drunks in a pub, everybody loves you until you tell them “that’s enough”, then they tell you what a dump of a place the pub is...
So you invite them to go elsewhere to a better one after a free drink..
Then they tell you you’re a smart arse..(that bit is probably true..)
And suggest you “get ......”
All the while some poor bastard in Oklahoma is just wishing we’d finish our weeing contest and go home..Now, there’s a good idea...
I could be wrong..(but I doubt it...)
Oh, BTW..
Luap OWNS this forum, I don’t know where he gets his patience..(that MGX taught him a lot..)

[AH Fan]

I’ve never ridden with Dusty, but I’ll bet he’s the sort of bloke who rolls off BEFORE he’s committed to going over the cliff...
Trouble is (and I’ve been on both sides)..
Joe Bloggs says something..
Fred Nerk counters it by upping the ante
Ralph Mudd sticks up for Joe Bloggs
Whatever the last poster got away with, the next bloke takes as acceptable and adds to it.
Just like drunks in a pub, everybody loves you until you tell them “that’s enough”, then they tell you what a dump of a place the pub is...
So you invite them to go elsewhere to a better one after a free drink..
Then they tell you you’re a smart arse..(that bit is probably true..)
And suggest you “get ......”
All the while some poor bastard in Oklahoma is just wishing we’d finish our weeing contest and go home..Now, there’s a good idea...
I could be wrong..(but I doubt it...)
Oh, BTW..
Luap OWNS this forum, I don’t know where he gets his patience..(that MGX taught him a lot..)

 

[Mr Revhead]

What I'm afraid of is waaaaaayy too much NGC on here.
Half the active threads are off topic

[Huzo]

What I'm afraid of is waaaaaayy too much NGC on here.
Half the active threads are off topic

Well.
A while ago I started a thread on this very thing.
I just bumped it.
The idea was that you could drift the thread anywhere you liked and it only lasted 7 pages...
See..?
When you give someone permission, it’s no longer fun..

[Shorty]

Some of us have been friends on and off the forum for decades. We feel free to talk about anything , except those things that are verboten by the owner. Several of us no longer own Moto Guzzis, either because they don't fit us anymore, or we have had one too many bad experiences with them. We're still amigos regardless of what we ride, or even IF we still ride. There are guys on here who have more mileage bump starting ratty old Bonnies and Panheads in the beer joint parking lot than many riders.  I like to hear what they have to say, Guzzi content or not.

[Huzo]

Some of us have been friends on and off the forum for decades. We feel free to talk about anything , except those things that are verboten by the owner. Several of us no longer own Moto Guzzis, either because they don't fit us anymore, or we have had one too many bad experiences with them. We're still amigos regardless of what we ride, or even IF we still ride. There are guys on here who have more mileage bump starting ratty old Bonnies and Panheads in the beer joint parking lot than many riders.  I like to hear what they have to say, Guzzi content or not.

Me too Shorty.
But I think the problem that a moderator has, is that he has to perceive an issue from the point of view of the potential reader, not necessarily himself.
I can call Dusty an idiot and the exchange starts and finishes with us, but if I call another member an idiot, Dusty cannot make a value judgement as to the level of hurt perceived by the recipient, he is obliged to act.
If you had a terrible affliction and I had the same affliction, you may feel that you are at liberty to bait or harass me on that topic because you have it also. You could say, “ see, it was only meant in jest, I’m no better..”
But if a member read that post and his young son or daughter had the same affliction, he could feel justifiably aggrieved on behalf of his child.
The preceding comments are not necessarily on point, but are meant as a commentary on how difficult it must be to throw a blanket of expected standard of etiquette over such a large mob and not miss someone around the edges.

[john fish]

A seemingly innocuous thread

Disingenuous statement.  A thread about a controversial figure will be controversial. 

The mods (and owner of the site) have asked the site participants to stay away from controversial topics. 

[kballowe]

Oil threads

[blu guzz]

There are some topics that are just too difficult to discuss these days without tempers rising. I think it was a good call to shut that one down.  There must be hundreds of other sites where a person could discuss that topic until their heart's content.  Thank you Dusty for making the hard calls. 

[Perazzimx14]

I’m “afraid” that if all we talked about is Guzzi related stuff on here it would be a very boring and very low traffic site. I wonder if it was Guzzi only if I’d still even be around.

[Scout63]

I came to the forum for Guzzi content, but I’ve stayed for the great commentary on everything else.  It’s my respite from work and the world outside.  So although I have strong political beliefs, I leave them at the login.  Thanks Luap for building a better mousetrap.

[Gliderjohn]

It is amazing what can turn political and then to crap. Better to error on the safe side than let things get out of hand. We still live in a very touchy political climate currently and best not let it out of the barn.
GliderJohn

[Rough Edge racing]

  You want a thread on the radio guy? Go to advrider political form..A thread of dozens of pages celebrating his death and wanting him to burn in hell... You want that crap on here?  All political posts turn into that..

[elvisboy77]

If I wanted to read about politics and other such drama, I would go on facebook.  But because it is all drama there, I am not a subscriber.  I got out of that mess.

I am glad that non Guzzi stuff gets filtered.  Thanks to the Mods!!

[inditx]

Remember what dear ol mum, dad or granny used to say, "if you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything at all”.
inditx

[Chuck in Indiana]

Remember what dear ol mum, dad or granny used to say, "if you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything at all”.
inditx

Yep. That's why I haven't posted..

[John A]

I thought it was perfect to lock it when he did.  Moderator has to use his judgment and keeping an eye on a thread that would go off the rails at anytime is a lot to ask.

[rocker59]

  You want a thread on the radio guy? Go to advrider political form..A thread of dozens of pages celebrating his death and wanting him to burn in hell... You want that crap on here?  All political posts turn into that..

 

"Church State and Money" forum at ADVrider.com is the absolute best place for a motorcycle enthusiast to vent his political frustrations and aspirations.   

[hauto]

I'm really a nobody on this site. When that post got locked fairly quickly I was surprised but not really surprised. Personally I don't think it would of gone off track. The leash on this site absolutely needs to be a little longer. A little disagreement is healthy. Luap,don't kid yourself,if you want this site to grow you need a change. I look at some of these same rehashed threads and shake my head "how lame". It's like that old twilight episode. If you think thoughts that don't agree with the mod you get turned into a Jack in the box. Maybe your content with what you have. With the average on this site up there and I don't see any real new influx of youth,it's distended to wither and die.

[twowheeladdict]

I am afraid that "the Kinks" song has come true.

[hauto]

Yeah,Lola

[Ncdan]

So are half, if not more, when sitting around a camp fire in person. Is that a problem? I can visit my RC discussion board after days away and find maybe 3 or 4 new posts on a particular model.

Wildguzzi is popular because of the diversity of people and topics. Veiled attempts, or outright, to throw gasoline on a fire will be dealt with. Luap's rules. His board. It is THAT simple!

John Henry

Well said JH

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Innocuous LOL.  A guy that one side thinks should roast in hell and the other side thinks he deserved a presidential medal of freedom.... Sure, yeah, innocuous!

Its real simple. Politics, Guns, and titillating content are banned here. Thats it, real simple.

[oldbike54]

I'm really a nobody on this site. When that post got locked fairly quickly I was surprised but not really surprised. Personally I don't think it would of gone off track. The leash on this site absolutely needs to be a little longer. A little disagreement is healthy. Luap,don't kid yourself,if you want this site to grow you need a change. I look at some of these same rehashed threads and shake my head "how lame". It's like that old twilight episode. If you think thoughts that don't agree with the mod you get turned into a Jack in the box. Maybe your content with what you have. With the average on this site up there anyd I don't see any real new influx of youth,it's distended to wither and die.

 Except WG grows every year , and most of the members like the culture here .

 Oh , you might have noticed , it was both mods who pulled the thread in question , and while we have been friends for years , we are very different politically .

 Trust me on this , we know what WE are doing .

 Dusty

[rocker59]

I'm really a nobody on this site. When that post got locked fairly quickly I was surprised but not really surprised. Personally I don't think it would of gone off track. The leash on this site absolutely needs to be a little longer. A little disagreement is healthy. Luap,don't kid yourself,if you want this site to grow you need a change. I look at some of these same rehashed threads and shake my head "how lame". It's like that old twilight episode. If you think thoughts that don't agree with the mod you get turned into a Jack in the box. Maybe your content with what you have. With the average on this site up there and I don't see any real new influx of youth,it's distended to wither and die.

hauto,

How can we be both bloated and withering?  Anyway, you've been here 6-months and we're glad to have you.  A very large number of our members have been here for more than a decade, and riding Guzzis since before the interwebs, even before cellphones!  Our membership continues to grow, and change, just as Guzzi's lineup of motorcycle offerings changes.  Many members are here because of the V7/V9/V85 line of bikes.  Many of those are new and re-entry riders who are new to Moto Guzzi. 

Luap prefers this forum to be a civil campfire discussion among fellow Guzzisti.  While there is some latitude available for off topic discussion, especially in the off season, political discussion is purposefully limited on this site.  We encourage those members who do want to engage in political discussion to seek it out on some of our friendly neighboring motorcycle forums which have sub-forums designed for political discussion.

Our rules:

1. No un-justified personal or dealer attacks.
2. Keep the content motorcycle related. There is no room for politics, guns, religion, spam, click-bait, etc.
3. There is no room for "raunchy" posts with adult or mature content. This includes strategically covered nudity, sheer or see-through clothing, lewd or provocative poses, close-ups of breasts, buttocks, or crotches.
4. Posting of for sale items allowed only in the classified section.

Failure to adhere to these simple, common courtesy, common sense rules will result in your being banned to ever post on the Moto Guzzi Discussion site again. That being said, Enjoy the Guzzi talk. - Luap McKeever


Regards,
R59

[Ncdan]

On the the “subject topic “ aspect of the conversation.
I’m a member of an antique Honda forum which has a strict adhere rule of “Honda only” topics. There are thousands of members world wide as one could imagine. On any given day there may be one or two posts “here’s my old Honda boys” (spoken in my best hillbilly slang)
It’s a very boring and dull place to visit and I go days without looking. However not this place, I look a few times a day, for the most part, as I’m afraid I’ll miss some good “knock down drag out “, that is if it don’t get nuked first 😂😂😂