HD doens't want electric motorcycles

[Ncdan]

Sorry. I did screw up the math. More like 150 miles on a 2.3 gallon fill up.

It was an honest mistake that most folks knew anyhow.
We all have hit the numbers next to one another at some time and failed to proof read their text. I do it much too often.
No foul, Sir👍


Dan

[sidecarnutz]

The RE 650 has hit a high, for me, of 71 +mpg on a slow backroad trip staying at or below 55 mph. More typically it's gets about 52 city and low to mid 60's hiway.

Still the best combination of power, smoothness and mpg I have ever had in a bike. My old Cali III got me 52 mpg hiway and with that huge tank, I thought that was awesomeness. This bike is a bit smaller and lighter, but almost as much power. And even smoother. I'm serious, with that 270-degree crank, it is so smooth you can read license plates in your rear-view mirrors! Only bike I have had smoother than my old Guzzi's!

[lucky phil]

The RE 650 has hit a high, for me, of 71 +mpg on a slow backroad trip staying at or below 55 mph. More typically it's gets about 52 city and low to mid 60's hiway.

Still the best combination of power, smoothness and mpg I have ever had in a bike. My old Cali III got me 52 mpg hiway and with that huge tank, I thought that was awesomeness. This bike is a bit smaller and lighter, but almost as much power. And even smoother. I'm serious, with that 270-degree crank, it is so smooth you can read license plates in your rear-view mirrors! Only bike I have had smoother than my old Guzzi's!

More the balance shaft than the crank.

Ciao

[Moparnut72]

My new Bonneville is also very smooth. It is a parallel twin with a 270* crank and counter balancer. My Audace was pretty smooth but the Bonneville may be a little better. The Audace I used to have liked to run at 3,800+, the Triumph likes it around 2,800 or so. Both are smoother than my V7lll, but it likes to really wound up.
kk

[Cdn850T5NT]

Everyone is getting amped up over this, the IC engine is sick and it’s terminal. In the future, the bright sparks will go electric or take the bus.
No need to be negative about the concept when the future is so positive, resistance is futile, there is massive potential in the concept.
If you conduct a survey, you might get a shock at how ready the public is for these. Initial reluctance is just one single phase in the love hate relationship that these things are at the centre of.
Once you throw the switch and take one ohm, you and the bike will become fused and you’ll wonder why you didn’t charge in and get one sooner...
I saw an electric trials bike that effortlessly volted over a huge bridge in Wheatstone near where I live.
A petrol bike would have fallen flat, charge on in an make enquiries.. hurry last days, stocks are limited...!
The potential difference is astonishing...

Brilliant!

[twowheeladdict]

Electric motors replacing gas engines or plug in motors makes sense when the use is intermittent.  Homeowner's lawn equipment, power hand tools, Trials Bikes, Average distance commuters, etc.

They still don't make sense for continuous use applications.

In the 1970s the factory I worked in as a teenager used electric battery powered fork trucks and pallet jacks. 

Do a little research on where the lithium for the batteries will be mined. 

Think about the rising cost of electricity when it replaces gasoline.  Think about the life cycle of the batteries and solar panels as well as where the materials for solar panels come from.

Sure, electric is convenient for the consumer, but is it going to be practical. 

[Alfetta]

electric is convenient for the consumer, but is it going to be practical.

My 2c...
Global population continues to rise at an exponent, More and more energy is going to be required, Expanding battery powered devices will be necessary, however it will not reduce carbon based fuel usage.  Where exactly the line of practicality will be remains to be seen, but I know this, a battery powered mower for my pasture isn't going to work out very well,  18 wheelers are probably not going to be electric along with your pleasure boat.

So city driving, yard care equipment, motorcycles, are good applications for the electric prime movers. Long distance driving, heavy haulers, dirt-working, Air travel, over-sea, etc.. will likely never use electric as the prime mover...

For those that are truly concerned with energy consumption, I ask you this... why don't we put the same effort/interest in a few trans continental high speed rail lines and eliminate the massive fuel consumption of over the road trucking (along with the hazard of having them on the same road as a Nissan leaf).  This will also reduce the amount of air travel that is also not fuel efficient and not emission regulated.

From what i see and hear, we would prefer to argue about the cause and effect of our personal wheels, and not something that would create a real change on not only our energy usage, but our capability as a nation moving into the future...

[bad Chad]

Kids,  please don't F*&$@ up my thread by sending it down an internet blackhole of unsupported he said, she said.    The conversation you guys want to have about the merits of power generation is one that can be had, just not here.

[Ncdan]

Kids,  please don't F*&$@ up my thread by sending it down an internet blackhole of unsupported he said, she said.    The conversation you guys want to have about the merits of power generation is one that can be had, just not here.

👍

[twowheeladdict]

My 2c...
Global population continues to rise at an exponent,

Are you sure about that?  The indicators I am seeing don't back up an exponential growth.  More like a decline in growth. 

[twowheeladdict]

Kids,  please don't F*&$@ up my thread by sending it down an internet blackhole of unsupported he said, she said.    The conversation you guys want to have about the merits of power generation is one that can be had, just not here.

You have the power to nuke the entire thread and start another one with more current information.  It makes more sense for Harley to spin off the EVs and focus them in cities where EVs shine.  Doesn't make sense for every dealership to carry them because they don't yet make sense out in the country. 

[bad Chad]

I do not have the power to lock a thread, nor do you.

[Ncdan]

Lets kept it on the topic gentleman. Thanks


Dan