V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest

[moto]

Nov. 30th Cycle News review, with price:

https://www.cyclenews.com/2022/11/article/2023-moto-guzzi-v100-mandello-s-review/

[blackcat]

Nov. 30th Cycle News review, with price:

https://www.cyclenews.com/2022/11/article/2023-moto-guzzi-v100-mandello-s-review/

Thanks, another good review. As to the price, the base model maybe all that one needs but for the extra money I'd rather have the Ohlins S model.

[Huzo]

Thanks, another good review. As to the price, the base model maybe all that one needs but for the extra money I'd rather have the Ohlins S model.

The regret will surface quickly if you stop one step short and buy the “cheap” one.
You can’t get the good one in red I understand ?

[LowRyter]

Talked to Don today here in OKC.  All the bikes will be preordered for a customer.  So you may not see one at a dealer for a while.  Some of the tech features:  Finger follower valve gear needing shim adjustment.  A cool feature is a neutral lock; if you're stopped on the bike in first and kick the gearshift it locks to neutral and won't jump to 2nd,  I guess you have to kick it in first to find a gear.

Wind tunnel vids show that the moveable body really works to deflect airflow.

 

[blackcat]

I got the impression from the early photo’s that the bags were small, but I guess not based on these pictures.

[Huzo]

Where the hell did you get those shots…

[Frenchfrog]

A few have been delivered to shops here and in Germany

[Huzo]

A few have been delivered to shops here and in Germany

Chris…
If I’d known that in Millau, I might have plotted a different solution to my problem….

[blackcat]

Where the hell did you get those shots…

There is a V100 FB page and people are posting photo's of their new bikes.  I believe this guy is in Germany but there have been a fair amount of bike owner's in England who have posted pictures of their bikes.

[rtbickel]

Thos bags are a bit too wide for my taste unless I was going transcontinental.  I wonder how long it will take to debut a California version?

[bad Chad]

Seems like it shouldn’t be long before the usual suspects start offering their own after market bags etc.

[Jorg66]

yup .couple guys on aGerman forum bought and received their bikes ,one in Green ,the other one in Red.

[SIR REAL ED]

Usually on a gas engine HP and torque cross just after 5200 RPM

You are correct.  That is an excellent observation.  If torque is measured in ft-lbs, the equation to calculate horsepower is:

HP = ((Torque) x (RPM))/5252

rearranging:

5252 = ((Torque) x (RPM))/HP

I always find it reassuring when math or science supports a personal observation.

 

[guido guzzi]

I got the impression from the early photo’s that the bags were small, but I guess not based on these pictures.

The bags are big enough to be useful but they do not look too big to me because they are tucked in so tightly! 
Liking this bike more with every picture I see.

[SIR REAL ED]

People need to stop p!$$!ng in the corn flakes...


If I buy a v100 series it will be in 2025, hopefully the new Stelvio (and others) will be available at that time
Either way the initial kinks will be worked out. Hoping the Stelvio checks all the blocks.

The Mandello checks all the 1200 Sport boxes, and could be a replacement,
But we will see if the Stelvio will check the boxes to replace my current TT bike,
The Mello Yello Stornello...

For now, I am loving what I have.

It will be interesting to see how quickly Moto Guzzi creates other bikes from the V100 platform. 

I suspect because it is such a monumental milestone machine (MMM for you internet poster type people) for the company, they might be a bit slower than usual to produce the variants.  I would think their marketing people would want to produce a smaller number than they can quickly sell for a while to increase desirability and a bit of mystique in the minds of future buyers.

Lets face it, if those supermodels were hitting on us normal guys, they would lose our respect.

It would be interesting to know what the chop shops and skunk works companies are doing with V100 sample bikes MG might have supplied.

It would be cool to see a naked retro version with round analogue clocks.  Or maybe a specialty shop producing some air cooled heads and cylinders for the aftermarket "off road use only" crowd.  "We don't need no stinkin emissions laws, we're off road riders!"

I suspect that an air cooled conversion kit would sell quite well to the financially affluent Moto Guzzistas!

[Tkelly]

Don’t they have crash bars?I imagine the,pipes would be torn off in a minor get off.

[AH Fan]

Well like many of us MG enthusiasts I will be looking forward to seeing and possibly riding this new wonder if and when it manages to arive in this country.( we will probably be the last to see them up here Im sure)
I have not read all of the posts on this forum in regards to this particular machine but the one thing I fear may be happening is basicly the same as what has gradually happened to other boutique and or exotic machines through out the recent years ( Ducati for sure )
They have engineered the soul and uniqueness out of all of them and that is so disappointing in my humble opinion.
I have experienced this first hand over the years with Ducati as well as MG........... For better or for worse they all are starting to feel the same and I hope I am not offending anyone as I have no intention to.
My last depressing experience was when I was offered as much seat as needed on a KTM as well as a Ducati from one of our dealers and sadly you'd be hard pressed if blind folded to be able to tell the difference between them.
,I was ecstatic to ride out of there with my 2017 Stelvio never to need to look back at that stuff.
As sales figures show I'm obviously the minority in these observations but I'm comfortable with that.   

Ciao

[blackcat]

Don’t they have crash bars?I imagine the,pipes would be torn off in a minor get off.

Crash bars for the heads, looks like they will also protect the pipes.

[Frenchfrog]

There's another style around too BC...more like the cylinder head knuckle dusters.

[steven c]

 With bags its starting to remind me of my old R1100RS.

[Vagrant]

They look like the Givi mfg bags off of the Kawasakis.

[SIR REAL ED]

With bags its starting to remind me of my old R1100RS.

Wow! 

You are right.  A quick glance has me thinking "Nice looking Beemer!"

[blu guzz]

Agreed. The amount of coverage looks very similar to an oil head RS.  I had the airhead RS which nothing else really looked like and the Oilhead RS which does strongly resemble the V100.  It should be a nice compromise between naked and a fully faired bike like Norge or RT. 

[davevv]

With bags its starting to remind me of my old R1100RS.

Yes, it does look a lot like my RS.  Probably the reason I like the looks of the new Guzzi so much.

[blackcat]

Good rider review from a non-Moto journalist.

https://youtu.be/x0T6k79_26I

[Tusayan]

Saying it looks like any BMW introduced in the last 40 years is hardly a compliment, but the V100 looks a lot less like a BMW than the direct BMW-replicas introduced after a Aprilia took over, meaning Breva 1100, Stelvio etc. I say that’s a good thing even while thinking that the V100 looks too generic, too Japanese to really suck me in.

The V85TT was more distinctive, very good looking but riding and using mine has so far not caused me to fall in love.  It’s competent but a bit characterless to ride.

[blu guzz]

Tus:  I always like your perspective, but will challenge you just a little on your last post, but these are only opinions anyway.

To each his own on style (or lack of).  I am a fan of BMW styling until the 2005 model year.  A prefer Botticeli to Picaso.  I liked the looks of my Muth designed 1984 R100RS probably the most of any bike I have had with the 97 R1100RS and my 2004 R1150RT and the most voluptuous of all, the mighty K1200RS also nice looking.
I get what you are talking about on the V85.  To me, the best looking Adv. bike ever created and the only reason I have one (McD paint).  I could not bring myself to own any Adv. that came before because of the looks.  As for the performance.  I agree some, that the bike is "Honda-like" in the good ways that it has been perfect through 24,000 miles but also, it is much more modern feeling than nearly anything I have owned to date and you could call that stodgy or possibly boring, but it is just so competent and different enough from everything else out there that I am still excited to ride it.  It is incredibly fun on the many twisty roads where I live.  Removing the Cat made it more lively and a little throatier.

[blackcat]

The loop frame bikes, California series including the short lifespan of the 1400 were all derivative of Harley Davidson but for some reason the Carc bikes have been given a certain amount of contempt because they pursued a style that was similar to BMW but that doesn't seem to be the case with the SP's which also mimicked BMW.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

The loop frame bikes, California series including the short lifespan of the 1400 were all derivative of Harley Davidson

Nope.

[Moparnut72]

I had an Audace with a license plate frame that said: Not a Harley.
kk